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This Week in Testing - Episode 59 - TestBash Special!
Welcome to "This Week in Testing," your go-to testing community radio show hosted by Simon Tomes and community members. Today’s episode is the TestBash special, recorded live from TestBash in Brighton, UK! This is a unique one, so if you’re a regular listener, you're tuning in to something a bit different. And if you’re new, stick around to get a taste of what Testbash Brighton 2025 was all about!
🔹 Episode Highlights:
Introduction:
* Celebrating TestBash with live coverage from Brighton.
Exploring Inside the Venue:
A walk-through of the Brighton Dome, showcasing the feel, swag, and community energy.
Interviews:
* Diana Dromey - Event Producer at Ministry of Testing, shares thoughts on successful event planning.
* Ashutosh Mishra & Danny Dainton - Discuss their experiences, key takeaways, and the amazing food!
* Rahul Parwal - Talks about launching his new AI-focused course, "Prompting for Testers", and the benefits of community learning.
* Jenna Charlton - Reflects on the importance of community connections and her journey with TestBash.
* Rosie Sherry - Founder and CEO of Ministry of Testing, shares advice for those looking to get more involved in the testing community.
* James Wadley - Talks about overcoming introversion and finding connections within the testing community.
* Hannah Reynolds - Introduces Women in Test, a community dedicated to supporting women in testing.
* Emily O'Connor - Shares her ambassador experience and the sense of community and support at TestBash.
* Sérgio Freire - Represents X-ray, discussing the importance of meeting people and building relationships in-person.
Community Moments:
* The duck scavenger hunt, the creative hideouts, and how it became a highlight of the conference!
* Interactive areas like the photo booth and the job board for career opportunities.
⏱️ Timestamped Chapters:
00:00 (Introduction to This Week in Testing)
03:43 (Exploring Inside the Venue)
05:30 (Interview with Diana Dromey our Event Producer)
07:19 (Catch up with Ashutosh Mishra)
09:22 (Chat with Danny Dainton)
12:16 (Key Takeaways from TestBash)
14:40 (Ambassador Experience at TestBash)
17:36 (Meeting Rahul Parwal)
19:20 (Launching a New Course on AI for Testers)
21:19 (Jenna Charlton's Insights on TestBash)
25:03 (The Importance of Community in Testing)
27:08 (Contributor Experience at TestBash)
31:13 (Rosie Sherry's Perspective on Getting involved with Community)
35:38 (James Wadley on Overcoming Introversion in Networking)
37:15 (Overcoming Introversion in Networking)
40:21 (Hannah Reynolds on 2i)
43:25 (Creating Safe Spaces for Women in Test)
46:47 (Emily O'Connor's Experiences of Being an Ambassador)
52:42 (Ministry of Testing Meetups)
54:03 (Sérgio Freire on X-ray)
57:19 (Wrapping Up the Event)
🌐 Join the Conversation:
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Become a member: www.ministryoftesting.com/membership#join-today
🔹 Episode Highlights:
Introduction:
* Celebrating TestBash with live coverage from Brighton.
Exploring Inside the Venue:
A walk-through of the Brighton Dome, showcasing the feel, swag, and community energy.
Interviews:
* Diana Dromey - Event Producer at Ministry of Testing, shares thoughts on successful event planning.
* Ashutosh Mishra & Danny Dainton - Discuss their experiences, key takeaways, and the amazing food!
* Rahul Parwal - Talks about launching his new AI-focused course, "Prompting for Testers", and the benefits of community learning.
* Jenna Charlton - Reflects on the importance of community connections and her journey with TestBash.
* Rosie Sherry - Founder and CEO of Ministry of Testing, shares advice for those looking to get more involved in the testing community.
* James Wadley - Talks about overcoming introversion and finding connections within the testing community.
* Hannah Reynolds - Introduces Women in Test, a community dedicated to supporting women in testing.
* Emily O'Connor - Shares her ambassador experience and the sense of community and support at TestBash.
* Sérgio Freire - Represents X-ray, discussing the importance of meeting people and building relationships in-person.
Community Moments:
* The duck scavenger hunt, the creative hideouts, and how it became a highlight of the conference!
* Interactive areas like the photo booth and the job board for career opportunities.
⏱️ Timestamped Chapters:
00:00 (Introduction to This Week in Testing)
03:43 (Exploring Inside the Venue)
05:30 (Interview with Diana Dromey our Event Producer)
07:19 (Catch up with Ashutosh Mishra)
09:22 (Chat with Danny Dainton)
12:16 (Key Takeaways from TestBash)
14:40 (Ambassador Experience at TestBash)
17:36 (Meeting Rahul Parwal)
19:20 (Launching a New Course on AI for Testers)
21:19 (Jenna Charlton's Insights on TestBash)
25:03 (The Importance of Community in Testing)
27:08 (Contributor Experience at TestBash)
31:13 (Rosie Sherry's Perspective on Getting involved with Community)
35:38 (James Wadley on Overcoming Introversion in Networking)
37:15 (Overcoming Introversion in Networking)
40:21 (Hannah Reynolds on 2i)
43:25 (Creating Safe Spaces for Women in Test)
46:47 (Emily O'Connor's Experiences of Being an Ambassador)
52:42 (Ministry of Testing Meetups)
54:03 (Sérgio Freire on X-ray)
57:19 (Wrapping Up the Event)
🌐 Join the Conversation:
Subscribe to our newsletter: www.ministryoftesting.com/newsletter
Follow us on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/ministry-of-testing
Become a member: www.ministryoftesting.com/membership#join-today
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Thank you
We should not fear AI but look forward to it removing the cruft so we can properly investigate issues and implement solutions.
"Soft Skills: The Software Developer's Life Manual" John Sonmez
Thanks for the recommendation :)
You reference a book in the begining, what book is it you're recommending here?
Building Successful Communities of Practice: Discover How Connecting People Makes Better Organisations by Emily Webber. www.amazon.co.uk/Building-Successful-Communities-Practice-Organisations-ebook/dp/B01BYH07P0/ref=sr_1_1
In terms of easy it is to test a system I’d add if there are hooks built into the platform for testing. Additionally, is the system being built TDD? Two things you want to see in a platform for testing.
Excellent examples. I personally find if good TDD is being practised then hooks for testing emerge naturally. - Mark
Sprints are mini-waterfall.
What makes you say that? I know I have faced my fair share of Wagile contexts, but I've also been in teams where we took each story at a time in a collaborative fashion and reacted to end user changes as we released. - Mark
Hey I actually applied Pirate Tester's advice: in my second company I spoke at the internal meetup, which was less scary since the audience was smaller and I knew everyone in the audience. Later when I did that same talk at a bigger public meetup and had already re-hersed it in a "product-like" environment and went really smoothly! It's a very good peace of advice!!
Great story Mirza. Personally it's something I've done for a long time when preparing my own talks. I share 'draft' versions that are shorter and a bit rougher around the edges. It helps me get comfortable with material and solicit useful feedback on what to add and what to improve. - Mark
Mark manual test Jira tickets as “Automatable” and later “Automated” or “not-Automatable” Add the manual test Jira Ticket link(s) to the Allure results. Strive for 80% coverage before moving to next subcategory.
If your org's development strategy is API first, then yes. If not, then prioritize UI performance testing. Testing should cater to customers first. In an API-first strategy, the customers are developers, therefore API testing should be prioritized. In a non-API-first strategy, the customers are users who interact with your org's product using a UI, therefore UI testing should be prioritized.
Context is always key in these types of discussions which you're demonstrating in your comment @zshn. It could be both could be prioritised and carried out at the same time, but we need the right skills, experience and support. That all has a huge impact on our decisions. - Mark
I really like that MoT has been active on all fronts lately!
You are actually talking about test plans. Test strategy should be pretty general and does not have to be specific. It is a general approach from which specific test plans are derived. Thus, test strategy could and IMHO should be very brief and general. If you need anything specific, than one should ask about test plans, not strategy.
It's a tricky thing Strategies and Plans. I would definitely subscribe to the idea of my strategy is my vision, whereas my plan are my concrete steps to take and mitigation if the plan goes sideways - Mark
great response! Visual test strategy and people working together 👏 "the better the people are the briefer the documentation can be"
@MOT and @Vernon how can one pe part of these sessions?
I'm about to open a call for contribution for AMA guests in the coming week. Keep an eye on all things MoT.
@@friendlytester - Will do
Here is a updated version with beats and lyrics: th-cam.com/video/gM9n73fMCxQ/w-d-xo.html
Insightful and very educational
Thanks Patrick, glad you liked it. Keep your eyes peeled for more accessibility content coming soon.
Cool explanation. While watching this video I applied another concept from the levels of knowledge described by Neil DeGrasse Tyson. There are things we know that we know - those can be covered by scripted tests, they are mainly included into accepted tests There are things we know that we don't know. Those are minority of acceptance tests, mainly exploratory tests There are things we don't know that we don't know. Those are defects slipped to production ... And they should be covered by getting feedback from customer support to incorporate them into our knowledge body
Really insightful Oleg thank you!
Interesting, thanks 🙏🏻
Glad you liked it!
This was in 2017. TestBash San Francisco was 2018
Loved the podcast! Where can I find all the links and videos you are talking about?
Thanks. It helps me a lot.
Great explanation! I'm happy to see that I've built our framework in the right way :-)
Good job!
thanks for recording this Mark. It was great start for me to see REST Assured and creating a new java automation framework in action.
where can we find the lyrics?
experimentation learning free style exploration Studying and modelling conjecture observation test code development task prioritization testing out competitors preparing simulations formalized reporting to comply with regulations gathering assessing and applying information deliberation judgment designing visualizations setting up the lab to try complex configurations working out the problems in a puzzling situation finding ambiguity in a product specification trying to look beyond the predicted expectation well that’s cos testing is all about investigation questioning and learning playful product interaction trying to keep my focus while I’m managing distraction sense making myth breaking breaking decisions make no faking stressing out the product to discover where its breaking interrupted disrupted because the products full of bugs the fellow who developed it must have been on drugs refining test approaches through deliberate practice how could hackers hack this don’t give the access wrestling with problems in the setup of environments interviewing users to discover their requirements so I shall socialize to provoke collaboration other folks can help me with my testing preparation talking with the managers to learn what they require testing for charisma that’s what customers desire working with the marketers to show the apps Power Point to all the features try to finish in an hour selecting configuring and then applying tools remembering critical thinking confirmation is for fools refactoring in every step keeping things maintainable let’s get over overtime and make the pace sustainable building coverage models analysing risk and eliminating waste trying to keep the pace brisk pattern recognition distributed cognition helping shy colleagues get over inhibition but I want to say this While I'm in a rap rhythm that a checks a part of testing encoded in algorithm testing’s much more than automated checks and test cases human variation puts a product through its paces talk of manual testing will keep out craft stuck but testers keep referring to it I say what the use the tools powerfully that’s what I’m suggesting but don’t try to tell me you can automate the testing
This would be great I've just started a job and they are putting me on the mobile team
Hey - any links here for this? I am not finding anything on MoT
Hi Stefania, it's not live yet - once it is I'll update the links and we'll share it all over on our social and news updates. Thanks - Áine
I see a new career ;-)
Enjoyable, thoughtful talk.
See you again in 2017! November 9-10th!