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Human mass on earth = 36% Domesticated land mammal mass = 60% Wild mammal mass on land = 4% 10,000 years ago there were 1500 pounds of wild mammals per human on this planet… in the year 1800 there were 200 pounds of wild mammal per human on this planet… Today there is 5 pounds of wild mammal per human on this planet… This is largely due to human overpopulation… This is ecocide. The number one thing that any one person can do to address the worldwide meta-crisis, is to support a voluntary reduction of the human population. We need a 25% ecological footprint tax for the richest 1% of the world to hire the appropriate medical staff, and set up mobile units that could go to communities around the world, paying people to get sterilized. Organizations, such as the nonprofit#WorldVasectomyDayWouldBeIdeal. When considering, renewable energy options to mitigate the suffering caused by our predicament… Don’t believe the bright green lies! There is nothing renewable about so-called “renewable energy“. “Green energy solutions”, are replaceable at best. The mining, and extractive industries. cause significant ecological damage. Energy powers ecological devastation independent of its source. If human beings actually had an endless source of free clean green energy… Which does not exist it would only fuel the acceleration of the destruction of the biosphere. Deforestation, ocean depletion, habitat loss, over exploitation, desertification, biodiversity loss, soil degradation, groundwater depletion, overpopulation, rampant pollution, and the six mass extinction would all continue to accelerate. This is not a supply problem… It’s a demand problem! Fewer humans equals less suffering for all life on earth! We really need to promote government and nonprofit funded vasectomies and tubal ligations. I realize that it is unlikely that governments will pass a tax on the rich to pay for voluntary sterilization, and you may not be able to contribute, or participate in a nonprofit that funds voluntary sterilization. However, you can discuss with others whether it is ethical to bring a child onto a planet in the midst of ecological overshoot. We can talk about the ways that we can mitigate suffering, or people can stay silent, remain ignorant, live in denial, continue to celebrate procreation, and contribute to the suffering. We can either reduce our population by choice… Or we can let nature do it in her unmerciful way… it’s biology 101… A life that is never brought into existence, is a life that will not have to suffer the unequivocal impending collapse.

The original combustion engine ran on biofuel. Look it up. The original combustion engine was far more ecologically compatible with a local environment than solar panels which involve children mining in 3rd world countries.

Great talk! ❤ Good questions and one of the brightest minds right now... got a lot of new brilliant views on the topic!

I just read one of William Rees' papers and skimmed another after watching this video. His previous work on ecological footprints was valuable, but his current work is wrongheaded and dangerous if people take him seriously and follow his policy recommendations. Rees argues that the transition to renewable energy won't happen, which only a small percentage of primary energy is currently renewable after 30 years of promoting renewable energy. However, it makes no sense to look at primary energy when judging the progress of renewable energy . In the transition to 100% renewable energy, we will need less total energy, because we won't be losing 2/3rds of the energy as heat when burning fossil fuels. An ICE motor is only about 27% energy efficient due to the losses from heat and friction, where an electric motor is roughly 85% efficient, so much less total energy is needed by the transport sector when all vehicles become electric. Likewise a heat pump is 5 times more energy efficient than other types of heating and cooling, so less total energy is needed. By electrifying all sectors (transport, heating/cooling, etc.), Mark Jacobson et al. (2017) calculates that the world can make the transition to 100% renewable energy with just 11.8 GW of global electric capacity by 2050, which is less than the 12.1 GW available to electric utilities in 2012. We certainly have the natural resources to implement 11.8 GW of solar, wind, hydro and geothermal energy plus battery storage by 2050, so Rees' argument that we don't have the resources is frankly baloney. Because of S-curve tech disruption, the energy transition is happening far faster than many of the experts expected. In the first half of 2024, 80.3% of new global electricity generation was low carbon (renewable or nuclear). In September, 51.8% of new car sales in China were electric. In other, the transition that Rees thinks is impossible is already happening. There are so-called experts like Simon Michaux who think that we can't transition, because we don't have the metal reserves, but Michaux isn't paying attention to how solar, wind, batteries and EVs are evolving, so his calculations are not based on the future tech. Most batteries will become sodium-ion, which can be made with commonplace materials which have no shortages (sodium, aluminum and steel). Solar panels are switching from silver to copper bus lines. Offshore direct drive wind turbines are being replaced by semi-direct drives which need much less copper and rare earth metals, and all terrestrial wind turbines are becoming geared which need even less of these metals. The rare earth magnets in EV motors can be replaced by ferrite magnets. There is a massive shift to e-bikes, e-scooters and electric two-and-three wheelers, which is reducing the total number of cars and the amount of batteries that will be needed in the future. Yes, there will be copper shortages, but lot of wiring and motor windings can be switch to aluminum (there is no shortage of bauxite in the world), which isn't as good as copper, but it isn't the end of the world if most EVs are using aluminum wiring and motor wires. Rees also doesn't seem to realize how fast fast S curve tech disruption happens, and how quickly renewable energy and EVs will replace fossil fuel energy and ICE vehicles. Wind and solar is already the cheapest energy in most of the world, and new wind and solar plus battery solar is now competitive with new gas generation plants. By the mid-2030s, it should be cheaper to install new wind and solar plus batteries than continue to running existing fossil fuel generation plants. EVs and heat pumps will follow the same pattern as renewable energy generation, as the S-curve dynamics kick in. By 2030, most new autos worldwide will be electric, and by 2040, the cost of running an electric vehicle will be so cheap and convenient, that people will be retiring their ICE vehicles early. Heat pumps will take a little longer, but it is clear that they are on a similar trajectory. Rees has more of an argument when he looks at agriculture, but he again makes the wrongheaded assumption that agriculture in the future will be the same type of agriculture that we have today, because people are unwilling to change. If most humans change to a vegetarian diet, the planet will be able to feed the 10 to 11 billion population which is expected. Precision fermentation can be used to create proteins with a hundredth of the land required by conventional agriculture. Precision fermentation can replace a lot of today's dairy and meat production.

What Countries need. What we All need. LEARNING IS EASY LEARNING IS JOY LEARNING IS REWARDING Just imagine… IMAGINE Imagine your child who would push seeds down in the soft ground, cover them with soil, and all the while watch plants grow. Child will harvest the crops in the fullness of time; crops are brought to the table where meals are prepared and consumed. Rounding this off, the same process is repeated time and over again by placing what is left over back on to the ground to nourish the soil. The educational value of all this would be immense. One seed at a time, one step at the time, one word at the time and you unfurl the world. THIS IS THE MOTHER OF ALL LEARNING! THE TRAGEDY WE LIVE IN The demise of the family/social group is a sign of a far greater tragedy. ROUTE TO KNOWLEDGE Food is the Source of all Knowledge Water is the Source of all Knowledge Energy is the Source of all Knowledge L.E.A.F. Local Economies Are Forever Enriching our lives is a Food-Water-Energy education One such is tantamount to a Universal Education Our potential for Learning is unmet vis-à-vis its endless opportunities One seed at the time… Mario ************* Mario Molinari 67 York Rd Maidstone Kent ME15 7QU 01622 672280 07799 264031 startwithfood.net/

Fantastic interview with Renee! Awesome

Edward Bernays lives on. Himmler really liked him.

Humans are like a metastatic cancer. It will end like terminal cancer ends. But, but, but............we want to grow and consume more.

Ahahhahaa, I like how Bill speaks the truth on taboo subjects: economics 😬, population 🥴, RELIGION 😵. 😂😂😂!

Excellent comments by Bill Rees. His perspective on how Existence interacts with Its many diverse finite expressions and how important it is that we must recognize this fact and learn from it is highly appreciated.

times must be hard if they’ve actually stooped to letting her out in public again 😂

Any attempts to "save the planet" by undermining capitalism are doomed to fail. Every premise is based on depravation and authoritarianism. The greatest threat is over population and this is remedied through education, wealth creation, the empowerment of women, access to birth control and family planning.

Once we dive down into CO2 dribble, I'm history. A dive into ridiculousness, non science. Ignorance. Propaganda.

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'the economy' is a superorganism, with its *own* emergent mind. It's behaviour is governed by the thermodynamic imperative of any living thing, to dissipate all the available energy. Unfortunately it has tapped into vast reservoirs of fossilized fuelstuff, and it will spiral out of control til thisfuel runs out

I've read her book Artificial Unintelligence, and one thing that struck me was the call for accountability. She has done it all and elaborates on self-driving cars, for example, in that book. The benefit of having women and queer in tech is that they are all at the forefront of pointing out the existing biases and the BS passing on as a feature that humanity must need. TESCREAL bundle. And her book, I think, will make sense for people from non-technical backgrounds as well. Your channel is super underrated, Jesse, and I look forward to watching all the existing and upcoming videos with critical opinions. Thanks a ton!

Gosh! Not to sound creepy, but the conversation was hot! 🔥Michael is one of the creators I follow on nearly every platform to never miss an update. This video highlights his 360-degree thinking and approach to change! I love it! Since crypto and tech were also discussed, I hope to see Dr. Timnit Gebru here. There are many intersections between AI carbon footprint and energy dependencies, and I think Dr. Gebru will bring a lot of insights into that topic. Subbed. Keep up the good work!

This was an excellent interview and I learned a lot and forwarded it to several people. Thank you.

But.........number go up

A big EV is equal to driving an ICE for 17 years due to cost and resourses of battery production!!!😢

Brilliant interview but I am afraid it will fall on stony ground until it is way too late to save our society.

Check out Nature Bats Last. Prof. Guy McPherson (Conservation Biologist) frequently quotes your guests among many others. His story is amazing in how his life's educational journey impacted his educational impartation to his students until his choice to dissociate from his position of privilege in order to set an example for others to follow. Only to find out it was too late to make the needed difference. I warn you to not get caught up so much in what he wants humanity to learn about where the world is concerning climate change as much as how he wants humanity to learn how to live their best lives in light of what they need to understand concerning where the world is as it relates to climate change and how that will impact us all. Listen to what he is saying, not just what he is teaching.

Wow kudos on scoring these interviews for such a young growing channel. Gotta love Paul for telling it like it is. Looking forward to watching your interview with Bill Rees too despite knowing pretty much what he's going to say. I'm always shocked at how few views this subject matter gets despite literally being about life and death for billions of people, not to mention countless other life forms on this planet...it is beyond alarming and does not bode well. Regardless keep up the good work and know it's appreciated by your viewers. PS....and I subscribed 😊

this conversation genuinely changed my life!

Thank you for the interview, it is rare to find such interesting channels and you have such amazing guests. I am a maths student in my final year of my masters degree and am trying to somehow get into environmental science after graduating. I only really found out about our ecological predicament right after starting uni and feel like in the fields of maths, computer science and engineering it is not only rare to talk about those pressing issues even though we study how to model real world problems, but they are downright shunned (probably since there is no money to be made or we'd have to accept that simply switching to renewable energy is not the solution either). It was devastating at first getting to know how we screw up our planet, but it helped me to live a little bit more sustainable and peaceful life (i.e. going vegan and making music in my own taste as a creative outlet).

I want to promote a planetary resource management and distribution system in a resource based sharing economic model. Focused on sustainable, intelligent resource management and distribution based on fairness vs the financial system.

Exactly so. Humans have been busy destroying our own support system - biodiversity/plant and animal systems/regional landscapes and ecologies

An extinction is the only way the earth can recover from the damage we’ve done but it might take several million years.😢

Great job 👏🏻

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These two guys........amazing amount of experience, wisdom, right on point. What we ALL need is what they KNOW, alas we are too lazy, spoiled and just plain dumb. I'm glad I KNOW THEM.

really appreciate conversations like these!

Most of us still have the mentality of cave people, doing what the hell our impulses tell us, regarding the natural world. All 8 billion + I've been on the lookout for another video, to include Paul Ehrlich. He pulls no punches. Gerardo Ceballos is in the same camp. Also very grateful to the superb job you do as host, Jesse Damiani. Glad to hear you emphasize the moral bankruptcy of the commonly cavalier, heartless rationalization, that refers to mass extinctions as being part of a normal cycle....as in, life will rebound anyway.... the show must go on.....not that big a deal in the scheme of things.

Thank you!!!

Your just affirmed intelligent design with your airplane design example 😮

Soft-landing led to the invention of Covid-19...which lead to unreliable scientific journal articles. Cant you see that ?

You have given the advice of your philosophy...my only advice is you should seek G-D instead of your mirror 😊

Your soft-landing....has led directly to the Ukraine-Russia War....Isreal-Paledtine War/ Genocide....you have agreed with Hitler, congratulations 😮

...hardvto say abortion. Isnt it ?...because your EDUCATED enough tobknow that its murdering a baby. Glad to have experienced your problem...😊

Make America Great....again 😮

I have read that the U.S. has added 50 million new people from other countries and the number is growing according to a former border control officer. This is happening against a backdrop of what you are referring to as ecological overshoot. We have to stop giving people the incentive to increase and multiply. There has to be a balance with everything.

Vertical farming? The guest seems to be a skeptic about ecological modernization.

Growth forever is the dominant narrative. Sustainable development? Rees should address its pluses and minuses.

How about nuclear?

Americans like to live large. Tell them to live small and they will have pity on you.

A fan of Herman Daly? Why does neo-classical economics ignore ecological economics? Perhaps theyjust want to stay in their lane and continue publishing journal articles that only a tiny few will read.

She is Trotskyist.

“Question everything”. That right there is the problem in a nutshell . Bill nails it by saying no-one questions anything. It’s like we live in a zombie apocalypse. It won’t end well.

"All technology is biased." Not true. 54:50 so brilliant and yet she missed the mark. What is real informs what is existential. Her knowledge of biases in AI is the perfect example. Another great example is how an AI can go anti-human during an interview, which has happened a few times, or how AI gets things really wrong because of the training data. The threat is buried in all the flaws and biases.

Living underground in Arizona is looking pretty good at this point.