This episode was really condescending, and this is coming from a guy who adores this series - as attested by the 2 day binge of clips I am on, . They wanted to lecture to us, and rather than creating a story line that illustrated their perspective, they turned the audience into a bunch of high schoolers so they could bat us around with their opinions. Mind you now, I agree with everything they are saying, I just would prefer not to be lectured. to.
The difference is the KKK is a tiny minority of Christianity. Yet the majority of muslims worldwide beleive being gay is a crime. So it's not just a radical minority in their case.
And yet, it is also the most accurate. The principle is, distilled down to it's most basic and simple form, "We demand that everyone else do as we do, to validate what we believe we are" The unspoken part of that statement is "If you don't we are going to kill you, infidel" Complexity isn't a vice, but it isn't always necessary either.
I really didn't like this episode, it felt forced and...honestly made me question if this whole thing wad funded by thr CIA or the NSA. Yeah talking about topics is what this show did but...this felt like a lecture, propaganda almost.
Abramic religious fables are not history. Even reality-based Jews understand this fact of existence. Even so, while contending American foreign policy using Hebrew Scriptures of faith is stupid beyond all contempt, that is exactly what our sellout politicians of WDC have been threatened to produce, and surrendering, they have. But TWW is a Hollywood/Zionist product specifically composed to propagandize the American public into perceiving Jewish fable as if it was a deity-consecrated land title to be enforced upon the whole World in universal perpetuity, even with the prospect of nuclear war notwithstanding.r Meanwhile, the tyranny of Zionism will fight the whole World to the death of every last American, if we let it.
"Jesse didn't hear the drum suddenly lose time All his plans crafted, clever Fated unborn - Unfinished forever Jesse didn't hear the drum stop outside his door In his dreams destiny towered In the cold light of day it came as a coward" Pure poetry!
love the West Wing more than life, but the argument josh makes here is american exceptionalism taken to the simplistic extreme. The argument that islamic extremists hate america for its plurality is pretty wildly off-base and completely glosses over the very real role the U.S. and other western countries had in causing the adverse humanitarian, social, and economic conditions that would lead to the rise in islamic extremism
The problem is that Islamic extremism is built directly into the Quran it doesn't require an outside influence for it to be there. The whole premise the Muhammad had with his men was that of mercenary and conquest and trophies and wives. That's it that was the whole premise about the whole belief system is all about mercenaries Glory bloodshed getting the women. It's a 7th Century belief system which in its truest and purest form which is not subject or allowed to be questioned by anybody has the audacity to say at some point that everything that was written before this point no longer has any validity and everything must be followed from this point forward. The belief system is corrupt and based on power and bloodshed and it says it quite openly in the Quran. I'm not saying that people who believe in Islam are all evil or extremists but the belief system itself is not and never has claim to be developed for peace it is about conquest and always has been
Well hopefully they "express" such to Europe - that has done it for centuries. Start with Paris. (Of course, I mean writing letters .......c;mion boys, write!!!)
After the aired the Afghanistan Taliban kill women in a Soccer field line them up shot the in the head who kill them guy seen this on tv called Afghanistan tp tell them that played it out in real life
He was from County Durham so could be a either a Geordie (Newcastle) or a Mackem (Sunderland) or even a Smoggie ( Middlesborough). But as their album was called "From Langley Park to Memphis", I guess they were more Geordie. We heard at school that they were named after one of the prefabs next to the sports center, that they would practice in, but we all think that was just blabber. As for being Irish, with a name like Patrick MacAloon, must have Russian blood right? :) Glad they are still treasured and not overplayed. Thanks for listening.
This episode was out of place in the story, and this scene doesn’t even make sense. Not just the oversimplification of what josh is trying to talk about and what the substance is of his lecture, it’s that the kids wrote essays at a competitive level and made it to a White House tour, and josh was asking simple questions and the kids gave stupid answers.
lol this writing is a fair answer to the question. The whole scene is setup to treat the audience like ignorant school children. Quite simply, acting like an arrogant prick to people is an easy way to make them resent you at the very least, especially when the arrogance is merely a front to cover for your own ignorance.
Jordan the Comeback was, literally, the first album I've ever heard (1 year old). During my childhood this one was my favourite and I still love it. Thank you dad.
it's not "us" that they hate - it's non-Muslims - aka infidels - and in many cases its non-Sunni that they hate - why is this so difficult to understand especially when terrorists simply tell us that this is the way it is?
I love how Paddy reinterprets famous Alphas. Jesse James, Elvis, Steve McQueen... He has the uncanny ability to dive into these iconic psyches and break down their machismo bombast with mellifluous poetry. A true confidant for the sensitive at heart
Republicans are far more extreme than democrats are, but neither compare to radicalized islamists. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html + www.brookings.edu/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/
That banjo bridge-thing in "Bolero" gets me every time. I don't know why.
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Take a pit filled with snakes. All but two are benign and non threatening. Two are the most aggressive, venomous imaginable.... Would you let your child walk into that pit...or yourself for that matter? Sure, most Islamists are benign...but a certain percentage are "radicalized". Isn't is practical and sane to protect ourselves?
While they have the courage to put their own ass on the line when they strap a bomb to their chest Americans do their bombing safely from 30,000 feet or by launching a cruise missile from a destroyer or they launch a drone strike from a desk in Washington. The truth is, they hate you because you can't seem to be able to keep your nose out of other people's business.
This episode was really condescending, and this is coming from a guy who adores this series - as attested by the 2 day binge of clips I am on, . They wanted to lecture to us, and rather than creating a story line that illustrated their perspective, they turned the audience into a bunch of high schoolers so they could bat us around with their opinions. Mind you now, I agree with everything they are saying, I just would prefer not to be lectured. to.
the whole episode is about terrorism. (S3E1)
What a crock of shit
The difference is the KKK is a tiny minority of Christianity. Yet the majority of muslims worldwide beleive being gay is a crime. So it's not just a radical minority in their case.
Actual AOHELL - th-cam.com/users/shortsoTRVIkj2ffE?si=0imU_6Esh8gXlMVo
Art
Nope as blank is to dems. He got that wrong.
As relevant today as it was then. Brilliant writing
LoL
73 million years ago
"They hate us for our freedom" is the most simplistic statement that was ever uttered.
And yet, it is also the most accurate. The principle is, distilled down to it's most basic and simple form, "We demand that everyone else do as we do, to validate what we believe we are" The unspoken part of that statement is "If you don't we are going to kill you, infidel" Complexity isn't a vice, but it isn't always necessary either.
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I really didn't like this episode, it felt forced and...honestly made me question if this whole thing wad funded by thr CIA or the NSA. Yeah talking about topics is what this show did but...this felt like a lecture, propaganda almost.
Abramic religious fables are not history. Even reality-based Jews understand this fact of existence. Even so, while contending American foreign policy using Hebrew Scriptures of faith is stupid beyond all contempt, that is exactly what our sellout politicians of WDC have been threatened to produce, and surrendering, they have. But TWW is a Hollywood/Zionist product specifically composed to propagandize the American public into perceiving Jewish fable as if it was a deity-consecrated land title to be enforced upon the whole World in universal perpetuity, even with the prospect of nuclear war notwithstanding.r Meanwhile, the tyranny of Zionism will fight the whole World to the death of every last American, if we let it.
There is a depth to Beth Orton that I haven't found in many. Love her music and particularly this song.
fated unborn, unfinished forever
"Jesse didn't hear the drum suddenly lose time All his plans crafted, clever Fated unborn - Unfinished forever Jesse didn't hear the drum stop outside his door In his dreams destiny towered In the cold light of day it came as a coward" Pure poetry!
love the West Wing more than life, but the argument josh makes here is american exceptionalism taken to the simplistic extreme. The argument that islamic extremists hate america for its plurality is pretty wildly off-base and completely glosses over the very real role the U.S. and other western countries had in causing the adverse humanitarian, social, and economic conditions that would lead to the rise in islamic extremism
The problem is that Islamic extremism is built directly into the Quran it doesn't require an outside influence for it to be there. The whole premise the Muhammad had with his men was that of mercenary and conquest and trophies and wives. That's it that was the whole premise about the whole belief system is all about mercenaries Glory bloodshed getting the women. It's a 7th Century belief system which in its truest and purest form which is not subject or allowed to be questioned by anybody has the audacity to say at some point that everything that was written before this point no longer has any validity and everything must be followed from this point forward. The belief system is corrupt and based on power and bloodshed and it says it quite openly in the Quran. I'm not saying that people who believe in Islam are all evil or extremists but the belief system itself is not and never has claim to be developed for peace it is about conquest and always has been
Well hopefully they "express" such to Europe - that has done it for centuries. Start with Paris. (Of course, I mean writing letters .......c;mion boys, write!!!)
Prefab sprout and paddy you make me feel so happy and cool. I travel out of this sad world. Thanks
What about yourself?
Wow wow wow
reduces me to tears.
Soberbo
Absolutely genius every album I need more
Wheres that sample from aband called starsend or something
After the aired the Afghanistan Taliban kill women in a Soccer field line them up shot the in the head who kill them guy seen this on tv called Afghanistan tp tell them that played it out in real life
I know this experience! Life-changing!
Two gems. thanks.
Was he Irish?
He was from County Durham so could be a either a Geordie (Newcastle) or a Mackem (Sunderland) or even a Smoggie ( Middlesborough). But as their album was called "From Langley Park to Memphis", I guess they were more Geordie. We heard at school that they were named after one of the prefabs next to the sports center, that they would practice in, but we all think that was just blabber. As for being Irish, with a name like Patrick MacAloon, must have Russian blood right? :) Glad they are still treasured and not overplayed. Thanks for listening.
I hope this never dies
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この優しさ、童心、哀愁。
Rhesus Bad.......
What Josh says at the end is true, but also should of mentioned that the divide between the Jews & Arabs still exists to this very day.
That's obvious. Mostly has to do with the geopolitical situation as much as theological differences.
Needing major self-examination of American arrogance and dominance
A few points here with much more needed
This episode was out of place in the story, and this scene doesn’t even make sense. Not just the oversimplification of what josh is trying to talk about and what the substance is of his lecture, it’s that the kids wrote essays at a competitive level and made it to a White House tour, and josh was asking simple questions and the kids gave stupid answers.
It wasn't supposed to be part of the story, but more like a special, if I remember correctly - it is considered an episode 0 (5th season i think)
lol this writing is a fair answer to the question. The whole scene is setup to treat the audience like ignorant school children. Quite simply, acting like an arrogant prick to people is an easy way to make them resent you at the very least, especially when the arrogance is merely a front to cover for your own ignorance.
Jordan the Comeback was, literally, the first album I've ever heard (1 year old). During my childhood this one was my favourite and I still love it. Thank you dad.
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it's not "us" that they hate - it's non-Muslims - aka infidels - and in many cases its non-Sunni that they hate - why is this so difficult to understand especially when terrorists simply tell us that this is the way it is?
"Jessy James Is waiting For the cheap/Music to stop" Fabulous blink
Its a pity that Lord John Marbury wasn't in the White House when this happened.
Oh god yes, I'd have killed for Lord John to have made an appearance.
I love how Paddy reinterprets famous Alphas. Jesse James, Elvis, Steve McQueen... He has the uncanny ability to dive into these iconic psyches and break down their machismo bombast with mellifluous poetry. A true confidant for the sensitive at heart
Proud to say I've been following the Sprouts since Lions in my own garden. A genius!
Hmmm...Josh might just as well have answered his own question with "...as the Democratic Party is to Christianity".
Republicans are far more extreme than democrats are, but neither compare to radicalized islamists. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/2012/04/27/gIQAxCVUlT_story.html + www.brookings.edu/opinions/lets-just-say-it-the-republicans-are-the-problem/
That banjo bridge-thing in "Bolero" gets me every time. I don't know why.
Take a pit filled with snakes. All but two are benign and non threatening. Two are the most aggressive, venomous imaginable.... Would you let your child walk into that pit...or yourself for that matter? Sure, most Islamists are benign...but a certain percentage are "radicalized". Isn't is practical and sane to protect ourselves?
Scott Nyob it practical and sane until your protection warrants the need of protection from those who do not deserve to the NEED for protection.
Nobody outside the KKK really supports the KKK, islamic extremist have widespread support.
While they have the courage to put their own ass on the line when they strap a bomb to their chest Americans do their bombing safely from 30,000 feet or by launching a cruise missile from a destroyer or they launch a drone strike from a desk in Washington. The truth is, they hate you because you can't seem to be able to keep your nose out of other people's business.