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Glad the video was useful. I basically went through the same thing when I first played the game. Got a few months in then quit because I realized I "wasted" a bunch of in-game time. So I went and did all the research and then later figured I should make some more digestible videos for people in a similar situation. Yeah, the AI stuff was kinda fun to mess around with. But ripping the voice files from the game and then converting them to a usable format was a pain 😅 Not sure if I'm going to do it for future videos. But I like the idea of using Sophia in future videos to help keep things interesting for the viewer. And it makes sense to use AI voice for an AI character.

You should pick a day and get as far as you can into the current block of Tartarus. In the early game it's hard to do because of a lack of SP and people getting tired. But as you get further in the game both of these things become less of an issue. But the reason to do it all in one day is because that way you have more time to raise your social stats to hang out with more people. Or to hang out with the two social links only available at night.

Thanks for the long post! I'll try to respond in an intelligent fashion. I think that magic in the original P3 was too good in comparison to physical. So I understand Atlus wanting to make physical skills better. Honestly I hope that P6 carries forward the physical as three different types as well as the support skills for each type like we've seen in P3R and now Metaphor. That said I'm not sure if the nerfs to magic were necessary. I agree with you that Mitsuru doesn't have enough damage output compared other party members and she doesn't have a unique skill that makes her worth using against bosses. I will say her unique characteristic does work well with Junpei for random enemies and certain bosses that are weak to ailments. But Junpei doesn't need her to be good. She doesn't even have access to debilitate outside of her second Theurgy. I don't know if I can put her in D though. One problem I had with this tierlist is that the difficulty felt so flat for P3R on my first playthrough. Between Theurgy and actually using the DLC personas I paid for, even Hard was really easy to a veteran like me. To the point where it actually changed how approach playing new Atlus games, ignoring all DLC personas until after beating the game once. That said, P3R base game is much easier than it's original PS2 counterpart. While playing through Episode Aigis recently I picked the Heartless difficulty and avoided using the DLC Personas until I got to Joker. I enjoyed that experience quite a bit more than P3R's version of Tartarus. Although that's partially due to other changes made compared to base game, but that's a whole other discussion. But I didn't use her much there either as Metis could hit Ice weaknesses and I had her in the party the entire time. Overall, as sad as it is, I think you're right that Mitsuru is the worst party member. I mean outside of Akihiko, who I didn't place properly, she WAS the one I put at the bottom. Such a shame as she was one of the best party members in the original. ..... As long as you properly scanned enemies so she wouldn't Marin Karin spam. 😅

That's what it's there for! Hope you enjoy the game.

Lo siento, no hablo español. But if I understand correctly you're not a fan of Yukari. I'm not a fan of her myself. I think her attitude is really horrible in the original game. I think she's better here due to some changes in the translation and better direction for the VA. She's less needlessly harsh than she was before. However, lots of people didn't like her because of what she did during The Answer. So we'll see if they made that any better when the DLC comes out.

Yeah it really was, P4 was pretty crazy as well...P5 was my favorite and I'm waiting to see just how Atlus will top it with P6.

Same with FES. I think it wasn't intended to be possible only on NG+ since this was their first time trying this system. There is an old guide that shows you how to do all the social links but it's pretty strict for the first 3/4ths of the game and includes tactics like manipulating the rng of people calling you to hang out so you can get enough points to rank up later. What usually happens for me at the end of the game is there will be just some days where I have no one to hang out with because I've done them all while the last one or two have some overlapping days so it's impossible to do both in time.

@@thelastofitskind3034 I would stay as blind as possible to the plot. But if you want to get the most out of social links on a first playthrough you'll probably need to do a little research on when people are available and what the fastest way to raise social stats is. Not to toot my own horn but I have a few video on both those topics that have little to no story spoilers. So maybe check those out. Of course for some people the fun comes in figuring out things for yourself and just bumbling around and exploring. I just like to understand the mechanics in a game I play so I can get the most out of them and see as much of the content as possible. So it comes down to personal preference. There is NG+ so if you feel inclined to replay the game to see everything you missed on a first playthrough that'll make it easier. There's even a new super boss only available on NG+, so there's that as well. Either way hope you enjoy the game!

Thank you man i appreciated ​@@boxorileys

​@boxorileys I subscribed but your subscribed didn't went up maybe a glitch

Aki does not do offense as well as Junpei. Torrent Shot dramatically outdoes anything Aki does until Gigantic Fist (lv39) but literally 1 level later Junpei gets Blade of Fury which is an absurdly strong Skill that outdoes Aki till Strike Amp Gloves then a little under 10 levels later Junpei outdamages him again and it stays that way. He is on Avg the best Dps in the game and since there’s barely any pushback to going Phys he’s consistently strong with his variety of Phys skills. He also has the Strongest Theurgy in the game with Hack n Blast outdoing even the Mc (Without Dlc).

Are you trying to do NG+ on Merciless? Merciless only lets you carry over outfits and a few gifts from people IIRC.

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In P4G especially it's easy to use only one or two personas throughout the entire game thanks to how shuffle time works. It's a failing on the game's part since I think what sets SMT/Persona apart from Pokemon, at least partially, is the flexibility of personas. That and being able (and having to) use different personas or demons to overcome a new boss or challenge. That said Persona should be easier than the SMT games so they can continue to appeal to a wide audience, and playthroughs restricting yourself to a few different or one persona can be fun/interesting, especially on replaying the game.

He's the missing link between this game and The Legend of Zelda series

No problem about the wall, I appreciate the time taken to write it all out. I think in retrospect maybe Yukari could have been dropped down to A tier. I think Mitsuru is good, just a little below the others in the late game. I mean I go back and forth on whether I like Mitsuru or Aigis more in this game. And I can't stand Yukari in FES, so the tierlist was just from a gameplay perspective 😂 But yeah, dropping defense is always useful and her second Theurgy is good for bosses. Good support and decent damage, but less useful in random battles. That's why I put her in B. In retrospect Atlus did such a good job balancing party members in this game I think this was the worst game I could've chosen to do a party member tierlist on. 😅 Since there's only one or two that stand above the rest with the rest bring pretty good.

@@crowidiot ken is better with that shield in theurgy. You are right, yukari is not good

Interesting, that Ken min-maxing is fun, if mostly unnecessary 😆 He definitely has better coverage than Mitsuru and find him better for actual fights than Yukari. But her healing powers are quite ridiculously good at times.

@@boxorileys to go all in on Ken min maxing For that Theurgy bit If i recall when facing a Boss if he is under half Max Sp, if theres one enemy debuffed, all party members have a buff, Ken has a Charge or Concentrate he’s willing to not use (these all contribute to Theurgy) and with Soul fortunes 1.3x Theurgy boost he he actually gets his Theurgy every other Turn if he alternates between a Karn Skill and Theurgy. Its really dumb but fun. (Yukari under these conditions can only get hers every 3 turns at most)

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Rise in Golden is broken if you do all her bike rides. Similar with Futaba if you max out all her stuff. Biggest difference here is rather than a bunch of buffs that randomly proc you have a random buff you can activate on command.

Yeah, even with this long video, I still haven't fully sorted out my thoughts. I think I need to wait for The Answer to come out. I also want to go back and replay FES and Portable sometime later this year in preparation for a full retrospective some time next year. That's a lot of P3 though so we'll see. I'm not a huge fan of Yukari in FES but I have issues with Akihiko's new VA so I understand. There were similar sentiments when it came to Chie's VA being changed in Golden. Although there that was more understandable since the VA's line reads were in conflict with how she's written. I feel like there's always going to be a certain amount of nostalgia or familiarity with whichever one came first. It's kinda like when a book gets adapted to film or a TV show, they always look and sound a bit different than you imagined them in your head. I think the visuals and presentation are absolutely magnificent. Little sad that the revolver chamber for the battle menu is gone but that's a nitpick. I always thought that P5R looked great but struggles in the story pacing and gameplay some. So seeing a P5 coat of paint applied to P3 was really exciting. I think some of the Tartarus changes were overall good, but they didn't go far enough and the Monad doors being a replacement rather than an addition really doesn't work IMO. On retrospect I think when I talk about games like this again I need to balance out the criticism a bit more. I feel like I glossed over some of the good things they did or are inherent to P3's design. I'm going to try and keep that in mind when I eventually make a video about The Answer DLC. As I said at the end I would also recommend friends pick up P3R, just on sale probably. I have a friend who wants to try the Persona series but can't get past the look of the PS2 graphics. So having a version of my favorite Persona game that's been modernized will hopefully be a good jumping on point for a lot of people. Especially if the rumors about P6 being released in the next couple years are true...🤞

@@boxorileys Before Reload came out, I did another playthrough of FES with the HD textures mod and controllable party. I wanted to play what I thought would be the minimal viable product for a P3 remake that could serve as a comparison to Reload. Obviously, Reload blew everything out of the water, but I still think that experience provided a good frame of reference for looking at Reload. I agree with your take on the VA situation, I think it is applicable to a lot of my little gripes. I miss the old animated cutscenes and preferred the way some scenes were done in FES, but these complaints aren’t really objective in any sense. A new player would most likely not care at all. I also missed the revolver chamber bit, even if it is kinda unintuitive at first. I wish they kept some parts of the gun theme in the UI, but the new UI is still pretty damn slick. It is funny that you mention pacing. Everyone complains about P3’s pacing but I think it is mostly fine, maybe a little slow between Yakushima and October and again in December. All of the modern Persona games have pacing issues. You mentioned P5 already but P4 is extremely slow in the beginning and the team meeting scenes get old after a while. Pacing issues come with stories that take place over the course of a whole year. You brought up a good point with the Monad doors. I agree with you that the Monad doors aren’t a replacement for the EX-Dungeon. I do think they are a cool addition though, but Monad should have still been included. You gave your thoughts concerning Theurgies, but I was wondering if you thought they were a good addition. I think it is pretty cool that they are refilled faster based on certain thematically appropriate conditions. They range from kinda broken to being useless (i.e. both of Akihiko’s theurgies and Mitsuru’s 2nd theurgy being almighty is kinda bad). You might be right that making them fill up faster, but not being able to carry the charge would be balanced, but I think that it would end up making Theurgies exclusive to boss fights and remove a lot of their flexibility. I’m not sure what to do to “balance” them or if they need to be balanced at all, but overall, I like their addition to the game. I have no IRL friends who play JRPGs, but it is nice to have P3R, something with more modern presentation and accessible gameplay, to show them. The appeal of P3FES is still there of course, but it is a harder sell for casual audiences. I’m looking forward to P6 as well and I’m especially looking forward to The Answer. I wonder what the devs are going to do with Metis, is her kit going to be mostly the same? I read somewhere that Metis will get two Theurgies. One is obviously Orgia Mode, but I wonder what the other will be. Only time will tell.

@@NovaKaiser21 Ah that reminds me, I still want to finish up the FES tutorials with a guide on getting the controllable party members and wide screen etc working. I have to do that for myself anyway since I need to do an off screen playthrough of FES for a couple videos in the future. I also miss the animated cutscenes. Some of the 3D animation stuff is really good, like the death scene in front of Tartarus(being vague for spoiler reasons). But I do miss the animated cutscenes for things like the awakening cutscenes like I mentioned in the video. I think Theurgies are a form of a mechanic in other RPGs. The "action bar" "energy gauge" etc. A way to build up momentum for a large attack that otherwise outstrips any normal attack. I think it could work but is overtuned here. Like I mentioned in the video, the gauge should start from 0 each fight. So you can't nuke bosses turn one. Maybe add a couple skills that let it charge faster or start at like 10%? I think outside of Theurgy the game is pretty balanced actually. And genuinely requires some preparation and thought on Hard and Merciless, it's just Theurgies can trivialize most fights in the game as is. Yeah I have a few online friends who play RPGs and things, and obviously the people who hang out in streams and stuff. I think P3FES and especially Portable will be appealing to those who already emulate and/or have tight budgets. But it will be nice to point people who haven't tried the Persona series to this game. As for Metis, in the original she was a combination of Aigis and Akinari with some magic thrown in. So I'd expect something similar here. As for the second Theurgy it'll probably be something like Aigis's, a physical damaging type. I wouldn't expect anything too crazy from it. I'm personally more wondering about characteristics and how that will work for The Answer. My current thought is that everyone will start out with the first one, and then get the second one as the plot progresses. And Metis will get her's as the plot progresses.

Where would you put everyone else?

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Yeah, Yukari is a lot better in this version of the game. The VA is a lot less harsh in delivery and some of her rough edges have been sanded off. I'm interested to see if they did the same in The Answer. Since a lot of people didn't like Yukari specifically because of how she behaved there.