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The SaaS CFO
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The SaaS CFO | I simplify SaaS metrics for founders, investors, and finance. Fractional SaaS CFO, Instructor, and SaaS Founder. Help your SaaS business and career scale.
The Ultimate SaaS Metrics Checklist for Your Business | SaaS Metrics School | 5 Pillar Framework
In this milestone episode, I’m diving deep into my Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework, a roadmap designed to help SaaS businesses calculate the right metrics at the right stage of growth. Whether you're just starting out or scaling beyond $10M ARR, this framework simplifies the complexity of SaaS metrics, ensuring you focus on what truly drives your business forward.
What is the Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework?
This framework guides SaaS businesses in identifying and calculating critical metrics at each growth stage. It covers:
1️⃣ Growth Metrics: Understand where your growth is coming from-new business, expansion, new logos, and user counts. Learn how to leverage CRM data, MRR schedules, and bookings data to calculate these metrics effectively.
2️⃣ Retention Metrics: Measure how well you’re keeping customers. Track metrics like Customer Retention Rate (CRR), Gross Revenue Retention (GRR), and Net Revenue Retention (NRR) to analyze your customer loyalty.
3️⃣ Gross Profit & Margins: Dive into your financial profile with a detailed understanding of Gross Profit Margins by revenue stream (subscriptions, services, hardware, etc.). Discover why scaling gross profit is crucial for profitability.
4️⃣ Financial Profile Metrics: Examine your operating expenses (OPEX) versus cost of goods sold (COGS) split, track metrics like EBITDA, and evaluate your Rule of 40 performance.
5️⃣ Efficiency Metrics: Master both Sales and Marketing Efficiency (CAC, CAC Payback, LTV:CAC, Magic Number) and Organizational Efficiency (Revenue Per FTE, and my unique ROSE metric).
💡 Key Takeaways from this Episode:
Why your SaaS metrics strategy should evolve as your business grows.
How to prioritize the metrics that matter most at each stage.
The importance of understanding gross profit margins by revenue stream.
How to measure and improve organizational and go-to-market efficiency.
The metrics you need to calculate to achieve scalability and profitability.
📥 Resources You Don’t Want to Miss:
➡️ Download my Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework:
www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148255133
➡️ Access my Excel Dashboard to start tracking your metrics effectively.
➡️ Enroll in my SaaS Metrics Course starting February 4th to learn the framework in-depth.
www.thesaasacademy.com/SMF-live-just-the-facts
💻 About SaaS Metrics School:
At SaaS Metrics School, we cover actionable insights for SaaS founders, CFOs, and leaders looking to optimize their financial operations. With over 200 episodes, I’ve shared frameworks, strategies, and real-world examples to help you grow and scale your SaaS business successfully.
🚀 Level Up Your SaaS Metrics Knowledge
Whether you’re an early-stage founder or scaling toward $10M ARR, mastering SaaS metrics is critical. My Five-Pillar Framework ensures you track the metrics that matter and build a scalable, efficient, and profitable SaaS business.
🔥 Don’t miss this special 200th episode packed with valuable insights and practical advice.
🔔 Stay Updated:
Hit the notification bell to never miss an episode of SaaS Metrics School!
To learn more about Ben check out the links below:
Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe
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SaaS Metrics courses here: www.thesaasacademy.com/
Join Ben’s SaaS community here: www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout
Follow Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray
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What is the Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework?
This framework guides SaaS businesses in identifying and calculating critical metrics at each growth stage. It covers:
1️⃣ Growth Metrics: Understand where your growth is coming from-new business, expansion, new logos, and user counts. Learn how to leverage CRM data, MRR schedules, and bookings data to calculate these metrics effectively.
2️⃣ Retention Metrics: Measure how well you’re keeping customers. Track metrics like Customer Retention Rate (CRR), Gross Revenue Retention (GRR), and Net Revenue Retention (NRR) to analyze your customer loyalty.
3️⃣ Gross Profit & Margins: Dive into your financial profile with a detailed understanding of Gross Profit Margins by revenue stream (subscriptions, services, hardware, etc.). Discover why scaling gross profit is crucial for profitability.
4️⃣ Financial Profile Metrics: Examine your operating expenses (OPEX) versus cost of goods sold (COGS) split, track metrics like EBITDA, and evaluate your Rule of 40 performance.
5️⃣ Efficiency Metrics: Master both Sales and Marketing Efficiency (CAC, CAC Payback, LTV:CAC, Magic Number) and Organizational Efficiency (Revenue Per FTE, and my unique ROSE metric).
💡 Key Takeaways from this Episode:
Why your SaaS metrics strategy should evolve as your business grows.
How to prioritize the metrics that matter most at each stage.
The importance of understanding gross profit margins by revenue stream.
How to measure and improve organizational and go-to-market efficiency.
The metrics you need to calculate to achieve scalability and profitability.
📥 Resources You Don’t Want to Miss:
➡️ Download my Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework:
www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148255133
➡️ Access my Excel Dashboard to start tracking your metrics effectively.
➡️ Enroll in my SaaS Metrics Course starting February 4th to learn the framework in-depth.
www.thesaasacademy.com/SMF-live-just-the-facts
💻 About SaaS Metrics School:
At SaaS Metrics School, we cover actionable insights for SaaS founders, CFOs, and leaders looking to optimize their financial operations. With over 200 episodes, I’ve shared frameworks, strategies, and real-world examples to help you grow and scale your SaaS business successfully.
🚀 Level Up Your SaaS Metrics Knowledge
Whether you’re an early-stage founder or scaling toward $10M ARR, mastering SaaS metrics is critical. My Five-Pillar Framework ensures you track the metrics that matter and build a scalable, efficient, and profitable SaaS business.
🔥 Don’t miss this special 200th episode packed with valuable insights and practical advice.
🔔 Stay Updated:
Hit the notification bell to never miss an episode of SaaS Metrics School!
To learn more about Ben check out the links below:
Subscribe to Ben’s daily metrics newsletter: saasmetricsschool.beehiiv.com/subscribe
Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page
SaaS Metrics courses here: www.thesaasacademy.com/
Join Ben’s SaaS community here: www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/ivNjwYDx/checkout
Follow Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/benrmurray
#saas #thesaascfo #podcast #saasmetrics #saasmetricsschool #benmurray
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My ARR when Switching from Long-term Contracts to Consumption Model | SaaS Metrics School | ARR
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Greetings! Ben Murray here with another edition of SaaS Metrics School! Today, we're diving into an important question from a reader of my blog: "How do I calculate ARR when switching from long-term contracts to a consumption-based model?" Switching revenue models-from long-term contracts to a consumption-based model-can significantly impact how we calculate and define ARR (Annual Recurring Rev...
You Are Less Than 2M ARR and Want to Exit | SaaS Metrics School | SaaS Exit
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Greetings! Ben Murray here with another edition of SaaS Metrics School. If you're running a SaaS business under $2M ARR and thinking about exiting, this episode is for you. I recently had a coaching call with a founder preparing their early-stage SaaS company for sale, and I want to share critical insights to help you streamline your financials and make your data easily consumable for potential...
Your MRR Schedule is Worth its Weight in Gold | SaaS Metrics School | MRR Schedule
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Welcome to another episode of SaaS Metrics School! Today, we're diving into one of the most critical components of SaaS financial management-your MRR schedule. Whether you’re preparing for due diligence, optimizing internal operations, or enhancing retention analysis, your MRR schedule is absolutely indispensable. In fact, it's worth its weight in gold! 💰 What is an MRR Schedule? At its core, a...
The Foundation of CAC Part 4 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
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Welcome back to SaaS Metrics School! I'm Ben Murray, and in today's video, we conclude our four-part series on the Foundation of Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC). This series is part of the Pillar 5: Efficiency Metrics in my Five-Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework. If you’ve been following along, you know how critical it is to establish an accurate foundation for CAC to ensure all related sales and m...
The Foundation of CAC Part 3 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
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Welcome to another episode of SaaS Metrics School! Today, we’re diving into Foundation of CAC (Customer Acquisition Cost) Part 3. If you missed Part 1 and Part 2, I highly recommend you check those out first to get a full understanding of how to build a solid CAC foundation for your SaaS business. In this episode, we’re tackling two critical topics: 1. Getting CAC right: Your gross CAC expenses...
850K Raised to Reach the Right Prospect at the Right Time | The SaaS CFO | Revved Up
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Welcome back to The SaaS CFO Podcast! Today, we're thrilled to host Mark Walker, the visionary co-founder of Revved Up. With a dynamic background ranging from the events industry to pivotal roles in tech and SaaS, including growth leadership at Eventbrite and various startups, Mark's journey is packed with insights on building and scaling go-to-market teams. His unique career trajectory and vas...
The Foundation of CAC Part 2 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
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The Foundation of CAC Part 2 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
The Foundation of CAC Part 1 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
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The Foundation of CAC Part 1 | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
Fathom Raises a $17M Series A to Boost Your Productivity | The SaaS CFO | Fathom
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Fathom Raises a $17M Series A to Boost Your Productivity | The SaaS CFO | Fathom
What SaaS Metrics Are Relevant When Passing $10M ARR? | SaaS Metrics School | 5 Pillar SaaS Metrics
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What SaaS Metrics Are Relevant When Passing $10M ARR? | SaaS Metrics School | 5 Pillar SaaS Metrics
What Metrics and Data Do Acquirors Want to See ASAP? | SaaS Metrics School | MRR Schedule
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What Metrics and Data Do Acquirors Want to See ASAP? | SaaS Metrics School | MRR Schedule
Do I Really Need to Use SaaS Metrics Benchmarks? | SaaS Metrics School | SaaS Benchmarks
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Do I Really Need to Use SaaS Metrics Benchmarks? | SaaS Metrics School | SaaS Benchmarks
How Do I Count Reactivation MRR in My Metrics | SaaS Metrics School | MRR
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How Do I Count Reactivation MRR in My Metrics | SaaS Metrics School | MRR
$4.8M Raised to Improve Customer Purchase Experience on Stripe | The SaaS CFO | Schematic
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$4.8M Raised to Improve Customer Purchase Experience on Stripe | The SaaS CFO | Schematic
Calculating CAC When You Have SLG and PLG Motions | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
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Calculating CAC When You Have SLG and PLG Motions | SaaS Metrics School | CAC
Don’t Do This When Allocating Your CAC Expense | SaaS Metrics School | CAC Expense
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Don’t Do This When Allocating Your CAC Expense | SaaS Metrics School | CAC Expense
$3M Pre-seed Round to Make E-signatures Free | The SaaS CFO | Agree
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$3M Pre-seed Round to Make E-signatures Free | The SaaS CFO | Agree
Can CAC Be Calculated Per Product Line? | SaaS Metrics School | CAC per Product Line
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Can CAC Be Calculated Per Product Line? | SaaS Metrics School | CAC per Product Line
$25M Raised to Help Outpatient Clinicians Collect More Revenue | The SaaS CFO | StrataPT
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$25M Raised to Help Outpatient Clinicians Collect More Revenue | The SaaS CFO | StrataPT
Should We Include Customer Success Cost in Our CAC? | SaaS Metrics School | CS in CAC?
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Should We Include Customer Success Cost in Our CAC? | SaaS Metrics School | CS in CAC?
Sales Cycle Impact on S&M Efficiency Metrics | SaaS Metrics School | Sales Cycle
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Sales Cycle Impact on S&M Efficiency Metrics | SaaS Metrics School | Sales Cycle
4M Pre-seed Round to Provide a Gen AI Digital Coach to Frontline Workers | The SaaS CFO | FlowIt
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4M Pre-seed Round to Provide a Gen AI Digital Coach to Frontline Workers | The SaaS CFO | FlowIt
Bookings Data is Finance Data Source 1 | SaaS Metrics School | Four Key SaaS Finance Data Sources
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Bookings Data is Finance Data Source 1 | SaaS Metrics School | Four Key SaaS Finance Data Sources
$2M Pre-seed to Simplify Franchisor Franchisee Operations with AI | The SaaS CFO| Harmonyze
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$2M Pre-seed to Simplify Franchisor Franchisee Operations with AI | The SaaS CFO| Harmonyze
Contracted MRR vs P&L MRR | SaaS Metrics School | MRR
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Contracted MRR vs P&L MRR | SaaS Metrics School | MRR
Please Code Your Expenses to the Department Level | SaaS Metrics School | SaaS Coding
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Please Code Your Expenses to the Department Level | SaaS Metrics School | SaaS Coding
$20M Raised to Help Enterprises Govern and Scale Their AI Initiatives | The SaaS CFO | ModelOp
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$20M Raised to Help Enterprises Govern and Scale Their AI Initiatives | The SaaS CFO | ModelOp
Founders You Must Be Profitable on Your Services Revenue | SaaS Metrics School | PS
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Founders You Must Be Profitable on Your Services Revenue | SaaS Metrics School | PS
$77M Raised to Dominate the Laundromat Vertical | The SaaS CFO | Cents
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$77M Raised to Dominate the Laundromat Vertical | The SaaS CFO | Cents
Really like the starbucks example on whether to calculate CAC/logo or CAC/user.
Yes subscription model is the future. Our company is the 1st to ever profit share their subscription membership. BFH we have propelled to 25 out of 650 companies in the BFH database.
Yes subscription model is the future. Our company is the 1st to ever profit share their subscription membership. BFH we have propelled to 25 out of 650 companies in the BFH database.
Thanks! How do you calculate the units? Do you include existing customers that buy new products or add seats? The sales and marketing expenses are also going towards dealing with those.
Great video! Do you typically see commissions for enterprise sales as a percent rate on ARR, ACV, or TCV?
Yes, ARR and a kicker on TCV.
Amazing video
Thanks!
TLDR: Most SaaS companies have inaccurate profit and loss statements due to improper structuring, which hinders effective business management and investor comprehension. 00:00 📊 Most SaaS P&Ls are incorrect, with 90% failing to meet an accepted format that enhances business operations and investor understanding. 00:46 📊 Your initial P&L from accounting systems is flawed and requires proper structuring of the chart of accounts to accurately reflect SaaS metrics. 01:09 📊 Clear and distinct revenue categories, such as subscriptions and variable revenue, are essential for accurate SaaS financial reporting. 01:30 💡 Visualize your SaaS P&L by categorizing revenue streams into subscriptions, professional services, managed services, hardware sales, and miscellaneous items. 02:02 🛠 Customer success roles in SaaS can be contentious regarding their classification in financial statements, impacting how tech support, professional services, and operational costs are reported. 02:30 💡 Understanding the structure of costs in SaaS, including customer success, operating expenses, and separating cost centers like R&D, sales, and general administration, is crucial for accurate gross profit analysis. 03:12 📊 Properly structuring your SaaS P&L is crucial for understanding gross profit, revenue margins, and operational expenses to effectively manage your business.
TLDR: Accurately categorizing and allocating software expenses in SaaS businesses is crucial for reflecting true costs, gross profit, and operational efficiency. 00:00 💡 Properly categorize software expenses into internal use and embedded software to accurately reflect COGS and OPEX, impacting gross profit and operational profiles. 00:46 💡 Properly allocate internal software expenses to the respective departments rather than lumping them all under general and administrative costs. 01:18 💻 Software used in SaaS applications should be coded in the devops area under COGS, as it directly affects gross profit. 01:30 📊 Code expenses like Twilio as COGS in the devops area since they are essential for delivering your product's features and fulfilling contractual obligations. 01:57 💻 Properly categorize software expenses to accurately reflect their impact on margins and operational costs in your SaaS business.
TLDR: The process of recognizing revenue from a SaaS agreement involves managing deferred revenue and subscription revenue to accurately reflect cash receipts and earned income over the contract period. 00:00 📊 A customer signs a three-year SaaS agreement for $36,000, invoiced annually at $12,000, starting from April 1st after signing on March 15th. 00:52 💰 Debit accounts receivable and credit deferred revenue for $12,000, reflecting unearned revenue on the balance sheet. 01:11 💰 One month into a $12,000 subscription, $1,000 is recognized as revenue by debiting deferred revenue and crediting subscription revenue. 01:46 💰 Customer payment of $12,000 increases cash and decreases accounts receivable by the same amount. 02:22 📊 Recognizing revenue monthly from a software contract involves debiting deferred revenue and crediting subscription revenue, illustrating the distinction between cash receipts and actual revenue recognition.
TLDR: Revenue recognition in SaaS is governed by ASC 606, requiring companies to recognize revenue only when earned through a structured five-step process, which includes managing deferred revenue and understanding contract obligations. 00:00 📊 Revenue recognition in SaaS requires recording revenue only when earned, guided by the new framework of ASC 606 and a five-step process. 01:26 📊 Revenue recognition in SaaS involves determining transaction prices based on contract obligations, allocating those prices to performance obligations, and recognizing revenue as each obligation is fulfilled. 02:43 💰 Deferred revenue represents customer payments for future goods or services, crucial in the invoicing and revenue recognition process for SaaS companies. 03:38 💰 Deferred revenue is recorded as a liability when a company invoices customers in advance, reflecting the obligation to deliver software and services over time. 04:34 💰 Invoicing a customer for a one-year subscription creates deferred revenue, which must be recognized ratably over the contract's duration rather than all at once. 05:46 📊 Revenue from a SaaS subscription is recognized monthly by debiting deferred revenue and crediting the income statement as the service is delivered. 07:07 💰 Recognizing SaaS revenue involves debiting deferred revenue and crediting subscription revenue as payments are received and accounting periods close. 08:02 💰 Revenue recognition in SaaS involves understanding the distinction between contracts, bookings, invoicing, and cash receipts, necessitating consultation with a knowledgeable CPA for accurate accounting.
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TLDR: Churn in SaaS involves the loss of customers and revenue due to cancellations and downgrades, necessitating precise internal definitions to effectively measure retention metrics. 00:00 📉 Churn in SaaS refers to the loss of customers, resulting in a complete loss of associated revenue. 00:26 📉 Churn in SaaS includes both customers completely leaving and those downgrading their subscriptions, impacting overall revenue. 00:58 📉 Churn in SaaS includes both customer departures and revenue downgrades, with CFOs tracking it in the month revenue changes occur. 01:37 📉 Churn in SaaS encompasses both customer cancellations and downgrades, requiring clear internal definitions to accurately reflect retention metrics.
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New to the channel - found this last night! Was interested to learn more about Abstract Security as they just announced their Series A $15M. Looking forward to checking out lots of your other episodes.
TLDR: Accurate financial forecasting in a SaaS model requires careful management of revenue inputs, employee costs, and operational expenses, along with effective use of formulas and assumptions to ensure precise projections. 00:00 📊 Two revenue input tabs are essential for accurately forecasting financials in a SaaS model, especially when dealing with multiple products or varying price points. 00:31 📊 Duplicate revenue tabs to streamline linking to the summary, ensuring the P&L tab automatically updates without needing frequent changes. 01:23 💼 Accurate headcount management is crucial for software companies to ensure correct gross margin and operational expenses by detailing employee roles, wages, and benefits. 02:08 💰 This financial plan outlines employee costs, taxes, and non-wage operating expenses, organized by department, with a focus on forecasting essential expenses like hosting. 02:37 📈 Easily adjust formulas to scale expenses based on customer growth for accurate financial forecasting. 02:59 📊 The spread amount formula distributes a specified amount over given dates, while the spread evenly formula forecasts it across an entire year, allowing for easy annual repetition and row copying in financial planning. 03:28 📊 Enter your monthly expenses by department and set key global assumptions like company name and tax rate in the controls tab before reviewing the summary. 03:48 📊 To forecast tax cash expenses and new ARR in a SaaS financial plan, focus on sales and marketing expenses, key metrics, and ensure accuracy in bookings, revenue, and operating expenses.
TLDR: Light has raised $13 million to develop a modern accounting platform that simplifies financial management for SaaS and tech service companies, leveraging AI and integration with major banks to enhance efficiency and reporting. 00:00 🚀 Light, co-founded by Jonathan Sanders, has raised $13M to create a modern accounting platform that simplifies financial management and integrates globally, addressing gaps in traditional ERP systems. 04:17 💰 A new financial platform has raised $13M to automate accounting processes, integrating with major banks and systems while focusing on core ledger functions and AI-driven solutions. 08:00 💡 Light is launching a modern accounting platform for SaaS and tech service companies, simplifying financial processes with quick implementation and tailored support. 11:37 🚀 Light, a modern accounting platform founded in 2022, has raised $13M to help companies transition from basic software to advanced solutions with rapid onboarding and consolidated reporting. 16:47 💰 $13 million was raised to create a scalable modern accounting platform that addresses the complexities of growing companies beyond basic invoicing. 19:52 🚀 Founders in complex fields should seek capital and expert partnerships to strategically navigate product development and market entry challenges. 22:50 🚀 Light aims to streamline month-end closing to under one hour using AI for efficient financial reporting and strategic focus. 25:24 🚀 A new product, Light Command Interface, simplifies ERP and financial operations through natural language and keyboard commands.
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Amazing. want this type of more video's.
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Really lovely meeting
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Impressive insights, thanks! Your thoughts on this are really eye-opening for the crypto community. For those wanting more insights, check out my bio. Can’t wait for the next update!
Very helpful & Amazing. I loved it.
Thanks!
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Right. helpful video
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Really very helpful content. Thanks Ben Murray 🙌🙌
thanks!
Amazing And Very helpful video 😇👋
This is really helpful, thanks. When you say you need a “managed services cost center”, what normally goes in that bucket? Is that the hours spent by an employee in servicing the managed services revenue, times the per-hour cost of the employee? What if an employee does some managed services work but also some professional services? Or does some managed services work but also some customer support work? Would be interested if you’ve seen examples of this
Looking at the second example's first journal entry (5:55), why does our A/R increase by $12,000 when the customer is invoiced? As the company, we haven't delivered a product or service to have earned the revenue yet. I understand that D-rev increases because it's a liability and we've received cash for a service that hasn't been delivered yet.
When you post the invoice, the CR side of the entry must go somewhere. Unless you are charging their credit card, you'll have an AR balance.
@@TheSaaSCFO From accounting definitions, A/R may only be recognized once the service is delivered. Why not just debit the cash account instead? Cash would be debited and deferred revenue credited.
@@Leo-s7q4h You may be confusing that with the revenue side. Revenue cannot be recognized immediately if you invoice a 12K annual subscription.
@@TheSaaSCFO Correct, in this example our deferred revenue increases by $12,000. Revenue isn't recognized yet. Since the revenue isn't recognized yet why don't we debit our cash account - so we now have a debit to cash and credit to Deferred Revenue. From my understanding A/R increases once the revenue has been earned, and if we're not recognizing our revenue why not debit cash?
@@Leo-s7q4h I have not heard of that!
The moustache game is strong! I half expect you to twirl it and reveal your master plan! 🕵♂
How do you split CAC into new / upsell allocations if you don't have clear and separate teams doing one function vs the other? We don't have specific hunters/farmers or 'upsell marketing campaigns' so how do you think about that?
Hi Tim! Yes, as you get bigger, this gets easier with dedicated teams. So you if you don't have dedicated hunters/farmers, I'll either ask the VP of Sales about where they spend their most time or to make it more objective, look at the qualified leads that they are working. That'll give an indication for the allocation. With marketing, you have to speak to your marketing leader about their budget and where their staff spend their time. Usually, it's 90% new business.
@@TheSaaSCFO Makes sense, thank you for the insight!
Thank you for having me! :)
Great to have you on the show!
Congratulations. This is going to be the breakthrough technology in AI. Its so important to have the right output given the loads n loads of data available today and this technology will fill in that important gap.
Yes, definitely!
Great work. AI is next gen. But we need something like this to get the right output.
Great!
Very good keep it up
Yes!
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so sales commission / salary is not involved in CoGS?
@@lilbrusselsprout8261 no commissions. But you do need wages in COGS.
@@TheSaaSCFO so wages from who? I can't get a clear answer on this. You didn't include sales wages when every saas company has sales people so I am left confused.
@@lilbrusselsprout8261 for pure play SaaS, COGS includes Tech Support, Services, CS (if they don't sell), and Dev ops. These are fully-burdened. Wages, taxes, benefits, bonus, etc.
Thanks for sharing this
Thanks for sharing the Cloverleaf story on your platform, Ben! Great conversation!
Happy to share!
hi you should optimize your video a little bit more.,,put a proper title and use the title keywords in description and use some good low competition long tail keywords in tags . i hope you can see results in 3 months..
Hello Sir. Do you need a professional TH-cam thumbnail designer?
Happy birthday 🎂🥳
I find such situations in most of my clients. One issue that constantly surprises me, though is the lack of a cash flow and balance sheet forecast. A lot of these companies only use a P&L forecast.
Thanks for the comment, Eric! Early-stage I find that the 3 statement forecast can be a little overkill but above 5M ARR, it's great to have in place.
Looks interesting
Oh, that was a much more interesting take and topic than I anticipated!
Loved the insights on hosting, software, security, and staffing costs. Crucial for financial management.