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2:56 lol sht up. Also, we all know your favorite Trek is Discovery...

Rainbow elephant in the room! There is a Ferengi, he wants your gold pressed latinum. There’s a Klingon, he wants to fight. there’s a Romulan, he wants to conspire. There is the Cardassians, they want to steal. Yeah, keep in mind what the progenitors, taught us about all these races. Humans will be just as racist on a galactic scale.

Dude ur thinking is off. Society are created by destroying other societies.

Ds9 more realistic

Middle school? FFS I had cable, a VCR, and 386 computers :P

You hit the nail right on the fn head about Star Trek man. New Trek doesnt understand this. New Trek believes that this show cannot be exciting to a modern audience if based on the principles it was founded on. "We have to have an enemy to war with!" Well then, why not make the enemy ourselves? New Trek could have all its war, all of its personal problems between the crew, it could have all the pre Cochrane human aspects... But project them onto the villian of the story: A faction of humanity that wants to hold onto greed and conflict and take us backwards. Kind of synonymous with modern life eh? Not the klingons, not the Gorn, if star trek wants war and the dark side of Humanity, the greatest most compelling enemy on that screen should have been ourselves. If no one gets this mans video... I implore you to watch the TNG episode: The Chase from start to finish. You know that really good hopeful feeling the episode just left you with? Yeah, we grew up with that. Something new trek doesnt have, something that is missing: The very soul of star trek. Do you understand why we all have issues with Kurtzman trek now? It was always meant to build us up, not drag us down.

You are Julian Bashir.

Your interpretation is flawed by an obvious political bias. What you forget in your interpretation of US-like imperialism and colonialism is the war between the Cardassians and the Federation, the consequences and how the Federation dealt with Bajor. And Bajor is a fantastic example how flawed your view is, as are the other homeworlds of memberspecies in the Federation. Your points do not show colonialism or imperialism but even a utopic society has to deal with real and injust issues. As it does show how this peaceloving society has to deal with a war and adversaries that need to be fought regardless how pacifistic you are. The Borg and the Dominion show that.

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Yeah... with that stupid "content warning" I'll gladly not watch this video.

I have to say I disagree with a lot of your conclusions. I get that tng shows us an idealistic fantasy, and that is appealing. But I don't think ds9 is showing us how the federation is an imperialistic force subjecting others. I think it simply shines a light on how conflicting needs, priorities and viewpoints cast such a fantasy as just that. A fantasy. Humanity in the federation hasn't evolved. Our society has improved to a much higher level of egalitarianism. But once those ideals are put into a trolley problem simulator, aka the real world, we see how compromise is inevitable. In a world where you want to see people pick only thebright answer you're forced to come to terms with the reality of the lesser of two evils. The maquis are a prime example. The agreement between cardassia and the feds ended a galactic conflict, costing huge numbers of lives and threatening more. If the only path to peace is to fight until cardassia is conquered, or accept a negotiated peace, it would be irresponsible of the federation not to negotiate peace. The settlers had the option of relocating. It's a shitty situation but they made their choice. And saying they did nothing to harm the federal when they had infiltrated and hijacked federation supplies, often military supplies, is being willingly blind to the reality. I take ds9 as a message that says, we may never be perfect, the decisions may never be easy... But even in a hopeless situation there is a right choice, even if it's not a perfect choice. That a better future is possible but we can't ignore the pitfalls of our base fears and insecurities. We shouldn't assume the system is perfect just because we personally may be comfortable. We can't just wait for a perfect future. Ds9 was much more relatable precisely because it has flawed characters with perspectives or agendas we might relate to. It's not easy to identify with perfect people.

White Guilt! Thank you for a historical comparison. Its completly wrong, but hey as long as you get the white male guilt in there .I find your tour to be incomplete,, to the point of it being dangerous. you really need to study the historical topics your trying to paint . you might be white and ignorant, but you can fix one of them. HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BLACK AFRICANS STARTED SLAVERY, WHITE PEOPLE ENDED IT!!!!! And BTW DS9, STNG, AND TOS ARE JUST TV SHOWS. Lose the white guilt, its frigging annoying, You have zero historical reasons to be guilty of anything, PERIOD.

The world of Star Trek is actually a nightmare if you look at the big political picture of interstellar wars, military government, colonialism, genocide, etc.

Star fleet should have sent a modern war fleet into cardasion space and crushed to and rebuilt their government base.

Bro said when I was in middle school watching Netflix.....fuck I'm old

the example you use of picard suggests he might be far too sentimental for his station.

DS9 is text book material. This is not what many people want Star Trek to be. So they are very satisfied with TNG and Voyager. TOS was radical for its time. That radicalism leapfrogged over TNG. DS9 through elite casting, acting, writing and directing perfected it. It was like Hank Aaron moving past Babe Ruth. It didnt undo Ruths accomplishments but like people hated it then they today in 2024 reject the accomplishment of Aaron. Likewise is Sisko and DS9.

If I recall correctly it was Picard who created the treaty between cardassia & the federation that ended up with the formation of the Maquis. It was the episode where he & the enterprise were supposed to remove the Native American descendant colony.

I feel this video is overly simplistic. I often make fun of conservatives who have the “socialism is when the government does stuff“ take. I feel liberals have a very similar Mindset around colonialism “colonialism is when geopolitics happens.”

Police brutality good job it's just science fiction and not a reality

I think it was a Star Trek show, but they stopped making episodes a long time ago. Before the towers fell. That was crazy and unexpected.

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Shits tight right? (Not gonna watch the video)

I don't disagree with you on what you're saying about indigenous people and black people. They were treated terribly. They were treated awful but we weren't alive when that happened. That's been a couple hundred years ago. And to blame yourself for that when you weren't even in existence. Not even your great-great-grandparents were is just asinine and pointless

I think the TNG and DS9 visions were both true... Starfleet upheld its principles through MOST of the galaxy, but there were areas and avenues where its principles were more challenged than elsewhere. it took liberties there, but not in MOST places. Voyager is to me the interesting one, because it is in many senses the reconciliation between these two - a crew that acted principled despite being challenged on every front. way more so than the TNG crew ever was.

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Star Trek is based more on possibilities of real life, compared to Star Wars, which is more illogical fantasy. Both are great though.

Excellellently articulated ideas. Great video.

What the Marquis did wrong they should went to get help from others who could help theirs cause and regained theirs Land.

I actually prefer ENT to DS9 for multiple reasons, but 1 huge one was due to how well season 3 of ENT was handled. DS9 had a "tell dont show" approach during a lot of the Dominion War. They mention plantets or outposts being captured all too often without showing it. For example the capture of Betazed should have been huge, but its just said in passing as if it doesn't matter. The Xindi war however showed step by step how Archer and the ENT got closer and closer to the Xindi and ultimately stopping the war and earths destruction. They showed them collecting info on the Xindinto track them, they showed them finding out who built the doomsday devive sent to attack earth (which plays a huge role in slowing down the new weapons launch in a future episodes), they showed them figuring out the importannce of the metal spheres in the expanse, and how it ties to a hidden enemy using the Xindi. It was phenomincal how well every episode played into one another (even T'pols withdrawls). It's the best season of Star Trek ive ever seen. And going back to DS9's Dominion war is lackluster by compsrison. .

Very insightful! Thank you for creating this video exposé. :-)

Parapsychology is not pseudoscience. You are very mistaken.

Data was head of operations. TNG didn't have a science officer.

That was really well done!

This is a Top 10 Star Trek video of the year. Thank you for this video.

DS9 is my favorite Star Trek… But when I was younger, TNG was my favorite

Hmm oh the parallels

I much prefer DS9 over TNG for many of the same reasons why you prefer the TNG.

I'm still kind a miffed where they left Sisko.

I like Sisko more than hypocrite Picard

24:21, "Where TNG shows us the heights of what humans are capable of, DS9 shows us the consequences that idealistic vision often ignores."

Bit of a stretch...

"They tend to be less noticeable as the series progresses." As it progresses farther and farther past "Code of Honor"

Look at the political and law enforcement response to the BLM riots in January 6th that is Injustice that is privileged BLM took over multiple blocks of an American city refuse to let place or emergency services in wouldn't let the people that live there in and out Patrol the streets with assault rifles and look at the January 6th people none of them had assault rifles one woman was shot in the head some of them are still in prison

You know how much footage is really out there from the BLM Riots of mobs of black people attacking white people and beating them to death are within an inch of their locked because of the color of their skin not one person was charged with a crime they got away with it

How did the elite of the world governments the ruling class that survived deal with the Vulcan in first Contact because you know they survived in their underground bunkers because just with modern technology right now a billion dollars to spend you can make an underground city that can take care of 1000 people indefinitely you can stockpile you know fuel for your reactor you can have advanced aquaponics and hydroponics for food you can tap into underground water supplies that would still be clean and you could recycle them just like the astronauts doing space you can just keep recycle in the p secret survive indefinitely not to mention by that time they should have had a Moonbase and maybe when the Mars base Elon Musk should have been on Mars by then you know his Elon musk's descendants should have been ruling Mars by the time the first Contact they should have had a small colony of a couple hundred people

The Kardashians are not mad because they're looking for Cisco they're looking for their own warship a cardassian warship disappeared inside the wormhole

No colonialism zero the Americas would still be in the Stone Age Africa would be a giant North Sentinel Island in Australia to and Japan would still be samurai and Europeans would have stayed in Europe and jealously guarded all their technology and innovation I don't know what would happen to the Muslim civilization or the Hindus I'd say they would remain like they was the Muslims would probably have conquered the whole of the Middle East and maybe the ottoman Turks would still be around no no they used guns trains and stuff and they can't have that now European inventions no electricity for No One except for Europeans of course the people are better now that colonization was positive because it rose up the rest of the world out of their primitive squalor

Okay in a true post-scarcity scism civilization there would be a lot more private citizens in space with ships

Your Federation citizen that lives on Earth your human can you have your own ship and you have your own holiday can you have your own phaser can you have a ship that alarm that has Shields and phasers as a private citizen so you don't want a cargo ship say you just want your own small hip that you want I like and I like a houseboat will Starfleet give it to you because you want it for your Federation citizen you want to go to Raisa to experience the jamaharon want to go to Ross and get a Horrigan just stick them out you know and just wait for the women to come can you do that how will you get to rasa