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Golf Life Crisis
United Kingdom
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
From middle-aged rookie golfer to the Legends Tour in ten years: aspirational goal, or recipe for disaster? There’s only one way to find out…
How Far Does Each Club Go For A Mid-Handicap (14) Golfer?
How far does each club go for a mid-handicap golfer? I’m currently a 14 handicap, and these are my carry distances with each club, as measured using a Mevo+ launch monitor.
The numbers are averages taken from 5-10 shots with each club.
Also, in this video I run through my ‘What’s In The Bag?’, as some people have been asking. Let me know what you think!
Thanks again to the guys at Pin High Virtual Golf; check them out if you’re interested in renting a great golf sim near Northampton: pinhighvirtualgolf.co.uk/
For more regular updates, follow me on Instagram: golflifecrisis
Shoutout to some of these other channels for the inspiration for the video:
th-cam.com/video/q9G8Q7u823c/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/8kwA2n11zk8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/er4yp-ISBXA/w-d-xo.html
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Is it possible to take up golf late in life and still make it on tour? I’m embarking on a mission to go from golf rookie at 40 to tour pro at 50, doing everything I can to get good enough, quickly enough to qualify for the Legends Tour.
Follow my journey as I try to understand what drives sustainable improvement in golf, how quickly that improvement can come, and if this mad endeavour is even feasible.
Welcome to my Golf Life Crisis.
The numbers are averages taken from 5-10 shots with each club.
Also, in this video I run through my ‘What’s In The Bag?’, as some people have been asking. Let me know what you think!
Thanks again to the guys at Pin High Virtual Golf; check them out if you’re interested in renting a great golf sim near Northampton: pinhighvirtualgolf.co.uk/
For more regular updates, follow me on Instagram: golflifecrisis
Shoutout to some of these other channels for the inspiration for the video:
th-cam.com/video/q9G8Q7u823c/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/8kwA2n11zk8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/er4yp-ISBXA/w-d-xo.html
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Is it possible to take up golf late in life and still make it on tour? I’m embarking on a mission to go from golf rookie at 40 to tour pro at 50, doing everything I can to get good enough, quickly enough to qualify for the Legends Tour.
Follow my journey as I try to understand what drives sustainable improvement in golf, how quickly that improvement can come, and if this mad endeavour is even feasible.
Welcome to my Golf Life Crisis.
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I took up Golf at 40 - can I still make it on Tour?
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I took up Golf at 40 - can I still make it on Tour?
Very nice swing for a 14hcp. I'm also a 14 but my swing looks terrible compared to yours. Distance wise we are about the same.
I also bounce between 12-14 with similar yardages. I ditched my 4 and 5i for more forgiving 6i (srixon zx4) and a 5H set to 23*. So I have 2 6i but one is 28* and the other is 25*. But ya when I tested my 4-6i over a dozen shots each they basically all went 175 avg. 😅
Yeah it's really tricky to know how much is club and how much is just inconsistent ball striking as a mid-handicap player.
I have a similar goal. I’ve played for 7 months now and I shoot low 80s to 90 at my home course. Coming from a background of cricket has helped me I think. Never had a lesson and don’t plan to. I’d say that one thing I’ve stopped doing, is recording my swing and trying to have a perfect looking swing. I solely focus on executing the shot and where the ball is going. Look on the PGA and DP tours, there are so many unconventional swings. Swing your swing and don’t think about how it looks, think only about the result. If you are going to shoot low, you need distance off the tee and a good short game.
That's great going - keep it up!
You hit the ball pretty well. Gapping is close at the top of the irons. Not sure if it’s strike on 7-5 or head speed.
Thank you. Sadly I think it's the inconsistent strike of the deeply average golfer 🙈
Awesome ball speeds for being newish to golf -- also interesting that you are so consistent matching a closed clubface with the outside-in path to avoid slicing. Have you ever worked on trying to hit a push draw?
Thank you 🙂 Right now I'm just trying to hit one consistent shape.. which is hard enough, to be honest!
Love the yardage glad you don’t play at my club with those figures off 14 😂 you might get called a certain name
Haha - it wouldn't the first time, unfortunately! 🙈
What ball speed is associated with each club. Useless to compare based on handicaps.
Just showing people my own to give them a rough idea based on my skill level 😉
Just relocate to where you can play year round. You have to invest in your goals, not make excuses. Make a move.
I'm in - would you mind having a word with my partner and convincing her? 😉
Depends on his age.
And a lot of other factors! Just showing people my own for reference 🙂
nice swing, looks like you need to sort out your short game if you are a 14 handicap 😆
Yes, swing looks fine and distance is good. So should be a single digit handicap soon.
That’s what thought 😂
Thanks... I think! 😉
That's the hope!
It's more just wild inconsistency than anything 😣
Good video, very interesting. Pay attention to how those numbers stack up out on the course - the weather, lie, wind etc play such a factor so it will help you improve if you don’t assign a specific yardage to always being a specific club. Plus anytime you aren’t sure pay attention to the distance to the back of the green and be inclined to club up when you know there is room.
Absolutely. Wind totally eats my ball at the moment, and I definitely subscribe to the clubbing up/back of the green approach 👍
As other have mentioned, your gapping from 8i up is too tight. You should ideally have a 10 - 12 yard gap between each wedge/iron. It could just be down to taking a single swing with each and not getting great contact with your longer irons.
Yeah the 8 iron was definitely flushed, and the 6/5 hits were not as compelling!
Love this. Great numbers and thanks for the shout out. Glad you enjoyed the sim!
Great video , well done. Excellent number , The only club I would be concerned about is the 8 iron , I personally would have that looked at if these are your standard carry yardages, The gapping between the 9 to 8 is a little large and looks like the 8 iron may need to be bent a couple of degrees weaker to fall around the 152-153 range. Other than that you have great gapping on all your clubs and you hit them well.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. That 8 iron was a little bit spicier than usual, but I will definitely keep an eye on it.
Great watch. Thanks for sharing. Will say that your gapping between 8i and 5i looks tight. 👍
Thank you, really glad you enjoyed it.
Would have been nice for this fellow 14 handicapper if you'd listed clubhead speed and (average) smash factor too. I can some flashing by indicating you swing it about 5-7 mph harder than me on the longer sticks. Since the 101's compare pretty well to my i525's on loft, I may be able to compare
I'll see if I can grab some clubhead speed data for you. I'm going to be doing some speed training this year, so if you're willing to stick around then I can share some insights when those videos come out!
Great numbers!
Thank you!
Pulling the ball left in a sim isn't that unusual if you're not used to hitting inside. I think it has to do with less body rotation as people can slightly change their swing without knowing it due to hitting at the screen rather than through the ball. I've had plus handicap golfers and a tour pro in my place do exactly the same thing. Once you get used to the sim it's not an issue though. Re driver spin it doesn't look too bad on the shot you showed for that sort of swing speed, but was obviously much higher on the previous shot which was still showing on the screen before you swung. What sort spin do you get as an average?
I need to gather more data, really - it's an anecdotal feeling currently more than anything, just based on ball flight (and also how much distance I tend to lose in the wind).
1.lesson 2.practice
Quite possibly!
The English have always had a quirky sense of humour... you're going to need it brother. There are an infinite number of dos and don'ts out there... 95% good. BUT! they are all interdependent and are only useful (mostly) for limited times. 3 coaches?... you are halfway down the rabbit hole already... good luck mate.
I think you're right! The rabbit hole goes deep - I'm not sure I can still see the surface from down here...
I admire you putting it all out there .... setting ambitious goals publicly is very un-british but the best way to challenge yourself and make progress 👍
Thank you - that’s the hope!
I just subscribed. Just one tip is that I'd invest in a microphone. Your understandable but it's just a bit fuzzy to hear you well. One app that has not been reviewed much is Golfshot which has many swing improvement features associated with it. If you own an apple watch I'd encourage you to consider that. Looking forward to more videos and I like your goals and methodolgy.
Well that's a different way of looking at the game .... I like it 👍
Thank you! Hope you’ll stick around for the journey.
Working hard also. Came back to the game in 2020 after 15 year layoff. As of now Im at a 12.7 and Im 62 years old. Never got below a 10 before I quit. At my age, what is the proper tee to play from?
That is excellent going - very best of luck with it. In terms of tee boxes (or, more pertinently, course yardage), it's best to base off how far you hit it rather than age. This chart is useful as a starting point, based off how far your drives tend to go: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0780/5525/files/Screen_Shot_2022-03-23_at_6.00.24_PM_600x600.png?v=1648072874
Play often and play relaxed. Have fun and the benefits will happen.
'Play often' definitely sounds like something I can do! 'Relaxed' is more challenging... 😉
After 18 months I'd say the most important thing is weight shift and sticking to a particular swing style stack&tilt/classic/single-plane (until comfortable i.e. following a particular coach). Think weight shift has to be number one with knowing its a 3 phase movement backswing, loading front foot then pushing down and back, then swinging around the front foot. [Guess my swing style?] For this reason I suggest you try a pressure board as a training aid for higher power and more efficient effortless swing 💪🏽
Spent good time treating it as a back and forth 2 phase movement where I've not been loading the shaft/using the correct tempo so it's been a break through for me 💪🏽
Yeah that's a good shout - my current issue is that when shifting weight into my back foot there's way too much sway as opposed to rotation. Reducing/eliminating sway is my #1 focus right now.
Joel, if you're under 50 there's no way that you started golfing "very late in life" lol but I love the concept. Keep it up!
You're very kind. And that's fair, but I guess it's all relative - these days most tour pros start swinging a club before they can walk!
Carry distance is not constant, I think that is a problem with Sims. It varies fairly significantly depending on temperature, humidity, wet or dry ball and how warm you are and how many layers you are wearing. On a warm, dry summer afternoon I'll hit my 7 iron 175 yards, yesterday morning (cold and damp) I took my 7 iron into a 148 yard rising par 3 and finished pin high. I think data can take you so far, but nothing beats experience on the course.
Yeah, for sure - past few months everything’s been going no distance at all with these temperatures and ten layers on at all times 😩
New subscriber! I’m on a similar journey trying to get to 5 (parameter for our main club comp), I sacked shotscope tracking off as due to the inaccuracy with missed shots etc found it no benefit. I’m focused on just staying in play off the tee rather then distance and dialing in from 100yrds and in! Started seeing some improvement recently
Great stuff - very best of luck with it!
golf alone unless you are practicing with multiple balls pretty much sucks, Golfing with others IS GOLF and usually a part of why you play.
Agreed, although a big difference in playing with friends vs. getting paired with strangers - particularly when just starting out!
@@GolfLifeCrisis if you are a beginner there are courses, coaches and places for you to get ready to play at lesser course in the late afternoon.
What irons are you using? Have you changed them since starting?
I'm currently playing the Takomo 101 irons. I did have Titleist T350s but the back plates kept flying off. 'What's in the bag?' video coming soon!
Was about to comment saying I'm on exactly the same journey. But clearly so are a lot more people are. Subjective but I would highly recommend Jon Shermans book or audible called The Four Foundations of Golf. This if you don't know will look at the mental side of the game, expectations and logic around how we all play golf. It's unreal. Will be following. I'm currently at 14.1 and am looking at single figures. Although the handicap for me isn't the be all and end all. It's more an end goal of being able to enter some decent golf comps and not worry about being last, similar age to you and I know I'll never set the world alight, but being able to play some better that good golf and compete.. that's my golden ticket! Good luck 👍
Thanks for the support - best of luck with your journey too! If you look closely at the shelves behind me you’ll see a copy of the Four Foundations 😉
Loving the videos and ambition. Looking forward to seeing how you get on. How time consuming is doing all the TH-cam stuff?
Thank you, really appreciate it. Taking quite a while at the moment! Getting a little quicker as I learn the tools better and set up a proper workflow, but a lot of evenings and weekends are spent on it at the moment.
@@GolfLifeCrisisthat’s really interesting to know. I’m really inspired to try and get to the British Open as an amateur in 2026. I’d love to document it but by the sound of it I won’t have the capacity. Keep up the good work
Firstly good luck. I currently play off 7 and still can shoot in the 90s. So dont feel bad. Just on the overswing i observed from the range clip that your club maybe more in the palm than fingers, in fingers just allows the arm and wrist to work naturally and supported so you don't feel you need to overswing. Anyway good luck golf is really hard so enjoy the journey.
Thank you, really appreciate the support
Look at the videos of easiest golf swing on TH-cam to help you.
Thanks 👍
How you tracking your handicap ? If you have only played eight competitive rounds? Golf is much harder with a card in hand. Good luck , if your motivation is anything to go by you will do it.
That's eight rounds in actual (singles) competitions - I've submitted way more cards that that for handicapping purposes. Must be around 50 by now. Thanks so much for the support.
Just curious what clubs you are playing? Whats in the bag? Have you been fitted for clubs? Also, what are you carry distances (on a decent or good strike) for each club?
Thanks for asking. I've got Qi10s for driver, 3W and hybrid; Takomo 101 irons; Vokey SM10 wedges; and a Scotty Cameron 7 putter. Will do a Short on WITB + carry distances soon!
I’ve definitely experienced the overwhelming thoughts from instruction - even good instruction. I spaced my lessons out a bit more and swapped some driving range sessions for a local par 3 in between. Allowed me to apply what I’ve learned in a different environment. It also gave me a chance to focus on rhythm and tempo. Focusing on rhythm always seems to get me out of my head. Thanks for sharing!
Yeah I think spacing out my lessons a bit more will be a good idea. I'm basically still trying to groove in things from 2-3 lessons ago, so adding more on top is just getting confusing right now.
Can't tell if I'm jealous of your outdoor winter league or not, LOL. My winter league is simulator here in Canada so probably equally as futile but good for keeping the club moving. Would highly recommend Dan Grieve and Golf Sidekick if you really want to scratch that TH-cam itch. Really focus on the course management teachings instead of swing tips, they are both great for that and I contribute them with dropping my handicap from 15 to 11 this year.
I wouldn't be too jealous! The frozen round was fun but not really golf in the proper sense. Dan Grieve's stuff is great for sure, helped my short game massively earlier in the year. Want to do the in-person course but it's always fully booked.
Loving the content With regards to golf fitness,please consider a TPI assessment. It will highlight your functional limitations from a golf perspective and provide a taylored flexibility regime specific to you. Best money you’ll spend in golf
Thank you! A TPI assessment is definitely a good call - it's on the list for this year.
Yes i did it in less then 18months and i live in canada where i can only golf may to october
Fantastic work 👏
Not possible. It might be the most competitive tour on the planet.
You may well be right!
I'm 35 and have only just started playing golf a couple of months ago. My dad plays a lot and it started by wanting to spend more time with him, now I'm playing more than he does 🤣
That sounds great - best of luck with it!
Will be interested to see some Vlogs when you get the weather for it. Good that you enjoyed Ganton. Think I may have mentioned it in a previous comment but if you wanted to play somewhere similar but much closer to you The Hotchkin at my home club Woodhall Spa has a very similar feel and as a guest it'd only set you back £45. As I say, like Ganton The Hotchkin is a Heathland course but it's sort of Ganton on steroids. There's more Heather, more bunkers, they are deeper and some of the greens have interesting drop offs if you get it slightly wrong. Where the slope at Ganton is in the 130s, on The Hotchkin it's in the 150s. Aside from the course I'm about 8 years ahead of you on a broadly similar challenge and have had quite a bit of contact with guys playing at the level you aspire to including a guy currently on The Legends Tour. You may find some of the stuff I've learned along the way interesting. The Hotchkin: th-cam.com/video/bJzgUGCtTXo/w-d-xo.html
Yeah I was up there last year for a short game school - absolutely great facility. Definitely keen to give both courses a try... maybe when my game is in a slightly better place, given how hard the Hotchkin looks!
@@GolfLifeCrisis Just give me a shout on here when/if you fancy it. Guest rate on the Bracken is £35 and Hotchkin is £45 so big discount from the full wack and they are utterly different courses, couldn't be more different in terms of look and feel. Hotchkin is a heathland course, Bracken a fairly open parkland course. Who was your short game school with btw? I've had short game sessions with both Scott Emery and Alison Johns on the area you will have used and have known both since long before I was a member at Woodhall. That area is also where we can now go and practice as members. If you remember the layout we can use the 3 greens with surrounding bunkers at the near end of the area, the 5 greens the other side of the central 'teeing area' are still for coaching only.
It was with Alison Johns. Loved that facility - wish we had something that good!
@ Have known Alison a long time. She coached both my parents at a different club (was called Rutland County, now Woolfox) maybe 15 years ago. She also runs short game sessions for members on that area a few times a month so have been to several of those. Have to admit we are a bit spoiled as members at Woodhall with the England golf setup there we have everything from golf specific strength and conditioning, sports massage and physio to the indoor ‘Green Stage’ putting room, Toptracer and grass ranges, short game area we can now use and a couple of very different but good courses. Really have no excuses not to practice.
Good afternoon, First of all I love your introduction and how you manage your words with sincerity about your new goal. I think you’re one person that is not necessarily after fame but a realistic and communicative channel kudos to yourself. On a personal note, I’m currently 58 and just got into golf by accident by getting my mum‘s clubs who’s now passed, and wanted to go and have a hit of golf with her holding her clubs hitting the ball putting and hearing her talk about her day or how well she hit that ball? It brought me a little closer. What it did to me was gave me the same obsession as yourself. Without knowing you or seeing your video too have decided to try out for the seniors PGA down here in Australia. I haven’t given myself 10 years only 2 so I’m working hard and playing each day like you giving it a crack very much in Australian term Good luck looking forward to seeing your videos and how you going?
Thanks so much for the kind words, and great to hear that you're on a similar mission. Very best of luck - let me know how you get on!
You should definitely check out the Missing Links Golf Show podcast - it’s two guys looking to do basically the same thing as you, and very entertaining.
Well played fella. Got some similar goals there 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you!
I use arcoss. I logged roughly 40rds into arcoss last year. I played a total of 48 rounds. sitting at an 11.4 handicap. 2025 goals - break 80, single digit handicap, 110mph club head speed, play 60rounds.
Nice - those are great goals. Tracking and improving my clubhead speed is something I definitely need to tackle at some point this year.
What dry shampoo do you use for club face strike?
It's called Batiste: www.batistehair.com/ I just get it from Amazon
I can't tell you which clubs to carry in your conditions, but my advice as a 12 handicap player, I would drop the 4 iron and get more wedges. Keep up the good work, and you will succeed.
Thank you!
Wish you luck. I have been at a 13 for years and have done much of what you are trying. Braking though the 80's is difficult.
Thank you - you too! Been agonisingly close to breaking 80 a few times now, so 🤞 it’s not far off.
Interesting channel - had a chuckle when you talked about being very old when taking up the game. I started playing in late 2023 and joined a golf club as I turned 52 and was recovering from a mountain bike crash that put me in hospital for a while with broken ribs and various other injuries. It was one of the only sports I could actually do at the time with the physical restraints I had. The golf bug then got me and I got a handicap of 24 in February. Set myself a goal to get to 15 by end of year and as of today am actually down to 14. Goal for 2025 is to get as low into single digit handicap as I can. I have just bought a shot scope v5 to help and plan on taking some lessons early this year too, particularly to improve my iron play. I guess we will see if an even older bloke than you can go from beginner to single digit handicap in 18 months too.
Amazing progress 💪 Thanks for the support, and very best of luck with it in 2025. Let me know how you get on!
Funny how the habit starts eh… mine was recovery too… I ruptured my Achilles at 40 and needed an excuse to walk more. My physio thought being an ex baseballer it’d help take my mind off the leg and golf would be a good distraction from getting some steps, strength and stability on uneven ground. He wasn’t wrong, addicted since then 👍🏻 certainly a sport for life ❤
@@pottsyweb - yep, it’s definitely my sport for life now. Ironically the mountain biking only started 3 years ago for me to allow me to pre-hab and then help re-hab a hip replacement that I had 2 years ago when I was 50. Basically have worn my hips out from playing squash and other sports. At the time golf was one of the highly recommended sports in the recovery process - I should have taken it up straight away. I was never a fan or tempted to play over the years, who knew it could be so addictive!