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I bag the Trespass. For me the smaller rim of the Trespass is more comfortable. But yea it does bomb and I like the stability of these. I didn’t notice any flashing on these.

Hey if you got pointers… I’m open!

@@drewtube777 nice. I assume it was a preorder as they aren’t officially releasing until 12 am tonight. By the way, as a retailer I can assure you that you that there are plenty of discs around even with these “limited” drops. No need to preorder in today’s disc golf market. Wait till they drop and then pick your preferred colors etc. 😀

@@kasperancher Nice, thanks for that feedback-back.

Def depends on the plastic, fission even in max weight is like a -2.5/1 and proton can be as you said

Yup you said it. Hey have you tried the eclipse Tempo. It’s a better zone in my opinion. We still got a few left on our site. 😀

Yea, not Lat64 Trespass...

I had the first run of KT Orbit and I agree with you. I randomly tried the new run in this video after it felt completely different in the hand. It flies just like this now with quite a bit of turn, and is a pretty fun disc in the woods.

@@JohnBoyBuilds yea you would based off the luna’s flight numbers but the Sinus is actually very different from a Luna. The Sinus is flat top, overstable , slower and not as glidey. Don’t buy this hoping for a Luna like flight. It’s not even close. 😞

The Sinus also came out 12 years before the Luna.

@@Travis_NB true, true. I hear this release is different from the original in that it loses the flight plate grippy pads that the original Sinus had.

Cookies are hard to beat. 😀. But so is K1 plastic. Definitely would say the cookie fades a touch more than the IDOG but they are similar.

@@doublehelixdiscsports k1 is great plastic for sure. I just like the edges of Clash discs. Both are top tier plastic. I throw my Tone COOKIE and it glides way more with a tiny bit less fade, which I like. 1 mold 2 decent uses! I see you have a nice disc website. I'm sure you have a few I can snag! (Not like I need more discs!!)

You have a great disc selection on your site. Superb colors... especially that bubble gum. That is by far my favorite combo!

@@doublehelixdiscsports how is that Drive? Some say over stable a bit.

@@ScroDiddly yes sir, help yourself. We got multiple cookie variations as well as a recent restock of the IDOG

You can find my field test video of the regular steady Wild Honey on TH-cam or our website. It was extremely understable. But different people have reported big variations in flight from the Wild Honey even in the same plastic.

Yes agreed. And the ring plastic is so catchy! I’m thinking of bagging it myself? It’s very similar to the kastaplast Alva which I do bag. Have you ever tried the Alva?

@@doublehelixdiscsports I use almost all Clash and Kastalplast. I like the alva but It turns too much on me sometimes. I love my Wild Honey though.

@@doublehelixdiscsports sometimes this colored plastics are thicker and is sometimes over stable. My Vanilla is over stable in the white color

@@ScroDiddly that’s helpful news. In my experience I found Clash discs to vary quite a bit between runs. I also noticed some fit and finish issues with some of there discs, like stamps off center, nicks and plastic crumbs on the rim, spots of scaring on the flight plate plastic etc. they definitely have neat stuff going on with TONE and Ring but for the premium price I think they could do better with consistency between runs and better quality control. Hopefully they work out these issues as the company grows.

@@doublehelixdiscsports most discs vary between runs. I don't know many that don't. Especially when they change plastics and designs like Tone.. they shouldn't be compared to each other unless they are the same 'runs'. Again, all discs are like this, that's why some runs are sought after then other.. I've actually moved and throw all Tone stuff now. They are a lot glidier and flight plates are not as heavy. that's why Halo discs are beefier, it's made with thicker flight plates. Usually signature runs are the same way, beefier, if also sold in stock plastic. I've spent hours resting this. Steady and Sonny plastics are different in stiffness and flight plates. It's almost impossible to use different plastics in same molds because they cool differently. Stamp placement, on my experience, has almost zero difference in flights of same run. Flashing is different but can be fixed.

Thanks for this kind feedback. Also check the description of the video for a short write-up on the disc. 😀. We appreciate you.

@@PMantle good question, I’m really not sure. I never threw a Vortex. Have you thrown them both? What do you think.

@@doublehelixdiscsports I have not, but was eyeing the Vortex recently because I love all things understable. My forehand is just bad.

@@coreyvalek2691 it was approved by the pdga on May 20th of this year.

@@billgustafsson5457 you got me, I have no defense. 😬 Hopefully the video provided some kind of helpful information about the flight of the parachute even I wasn’t able to hit it flat. Thanks for viewing and commenting.

@@joestierhoff589 what? Please explain!

When you show the disc at the beginning put the flight numbers at the bottom so you know what it is but love your videos

@@joestierhoff589 thanks for explaining this idea. 💡 I really like it! Watch for this in future videos. 😀.

@@PMantle yes, yes, yes! Couldn’t agree more. Why is MVP so insistent on flat drivers?

@@doublehelixdiscsports It drives me crazy because the Wave is so close!

Unfortunately I don’t know. We didn’t get any of the OTB ones in. Sorry!

Yea all the ones we got in have some pretty neat swirly stuff going on.

@@doublehelixdiscsportsjust got this exact tester disc in. The profile looks identical to the Mint Discs Freetails I love, so I’m looking forward to giving it some throws tonight. Thanks!

@@Jtrain039 Awesome. Let me know what you think of it.😀

@@doublehelixdiscsports not as much late fade as those Eternal Freetails I have. Which isn’t a bad thing. Hit cage at 300’ on a laser straight hyzer flip. The Shift is getting to 340-350 for me on the course tonight with the slightest of turn on a hyzer release. Shot a PR -11 tonight thanks to it!

@@Jtrain039🎉wow, that’s some pretty crazy stuff your doing. I’m impressed. It sounds like the Shift has earned a permanent spot in your bag.

@@ScroDiddly I’m with you on this… the Alva is seriously good! It’s what I always wanted the Lat 64 Grace to be. Easy distance, good mid flight turn with a nice fade late in the flight.

🤩 Wow! Thats nearly 100 ft better than my combined distance. Impressive stuff. Thanks for competing with me and posting😀. What discs did you use at each distance?

I hear you. I would say the IDOG is similar to a beat in Teebird. Slight bit of mid flight turn but with some finish yet. Of course teebirds vary massively between runs!

Good few teebirds I've seen have some flip on a forehand especially when thrown like that. That wasn't a flat release, pump it flat I bet it goes 300 with minimal flip up

Oh yea. She’s a beaut!

Hey thanks for your feedback. Many more to come.😎

I agree with you. Very domey and glidey and consistently understable.

I was going to try it out either way. Thanks for the look and response.

@@JmarcL4 Nice. I think I you will be pleased with the proto Millet. They have been flying off the shelves but I think we still have two left in stock @doublehelixdiscsports.com. Happy shopping wherever you go.😎

@@luchaunderground6830 I hear you. We got you covered at Double Helix Disc Sports. If you haven’t already, give our store a look. If we don’t have a particular mold that you’re looking for let us know and we will do our best to get it in.

100% bombers! They had more turn than I expected to see out of the halo star plastic but were still very trusty overstable.

Yea its a great mold. Plenty of glide and trusty overstability. Watch our site, 12am on the 30th is when they drop.

@@doublehelixdiscsports I'm on it!!

@@DondoDiscGolf Thank-you!😍 we appreciate you being part of our journey.

@@luchaunderground6830 Nice. Those are pretty!🤩

@@doublehelixdiscsports very puuurdy 😍

@@derpderpin1568 I appreciate your explanation of the disc and couldn’t agree more? 👌

@@Tryaldar what do you think about it? Is it deserving of the praise? Maybe overhyped?

@@Applesnakes yes these would be good comparisons with regard to stability. However hand feel is different. The Swarm feels bigger and more blocky and either of the other two.

@@AaronWMele yea they are out real recently. You can find them on the new releases page @ doublehelixdiscsports.com

@@brosa1212 Flying by track tribe

Yes I can see the similarities.

Good point, maybe something I can add into future videos. In the meantime, you can visit our website where we take side profile pics of each disc for sale. (Note the Notion goes live the 10th)

I have a plan for the side profile on these videos, stay tuned!

Thank you.... It bugs the crud out of me when manufactures don't show profile... We know your disc is round, that really isn't relevant at this point, show me what it feels like.

@@tinncan good point and I agree. Stay tuned for a 360 degree display of the disc in future videos!