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from 0:40 to 0:55 were shuaijiao forms from baoding style

I'm still searching for volumes 3 and 4. We had the old videotape set but are missing those 2 unfortunately. =(

@@usashuaijiao For people like me who try to understand karate kata - half of it is here! I have known for a while there is a lot of grappling in the kata but this takes it to a new level

Try again. Chinese wrestling goes back 6000 years and is featured in the book of rites published in the zhou dynasty. Jigaro Kano the founder of Judo even credited a Chinese monk for bringing shuai jiao to Japan so that they could base Jiu Jitsu on it judoinfo.com/jhist4/ I'm not saying Judo hasn't advanced enormously but its origin is clear. Historical facts.

You should watch shuai jiao vs judo matches on youtube.

BJJ isnt garage as its literally a sub category of Judo the Dis-gracies tried to market as a new system.

@@mongolchiuud8931 I just don't agree teaching a no-pin, no-throw wrestling style to beginners. Beginners will end up pulling guard in a street fight if bjj is all they know how to do. Better to learn a style where you try to stay on your feet.

Sacrifice throws probably are the best for self defense, or fighting on surfaces harder than gym mats.

you are wrong. i study both. shuai jiao has more throws, but judo has more ground techniques.

That is what I meant I made a typo

Shuai jiao has less gripping restrictions than judo. So will have more angles and grips to work with.

shuai jiao is very good combination as finishing throw for all striking arts. if the throw fails, you can do ground submission in limited time for few seconds via wristlock, armlock or footlock chin na fa in some shuai jiao tournaments, depends on ruleset.judo is more pure grappling and takes more time in crosstrain for good combination with striking art.

Gures and Cornish wrestling dont have groundwork and folk wrestling systems dont have submissions. lol

If you want the subs just learn catch or BJJ. They are more specialized in subs than judo is anyways. So for standup, you dont need judo.

BJJ is basically Judo.

BJJ has more ground time and less ground restrictions plus leg locks.

Kurash Is influenced for sambo and this for judo, Is good but prefer judo.

Judo has ground grappling, chokes and arm locks done in competitions while Shuai Jiao matches only do throws. So no....Shuai Jiao is actually less realistic.

very true on that point!! i stated that due to the gi, vs shuai jiao short sleeve gi, reminds me more of an every day t shirt vs a very thick long sleeved gi.. although in business world people wear suits so i imagine Judo would work great against someone wearing a suit as well. believe me, i love Judo.. i just feel like when Shuai Jiao guys throw, it seems alot more cleaner technique then i see in Judo tournaments

Depends on what you are trying to do. With shuai jiao you can throw your attacker down and then get away or him. It isn't that difficult to merge strikes into the throws either. This is why it works so well with shanshou. I'm not saying Judo can't throw and run. Just that from what I've seen, they train to go to the ground.

shuaijiao, due to its cleanese is more suitable in 1v2 or 1v3 situations. The best part of shuaijiao is that although its grappling, you are on both feet always. It helps you to quickly flip some guy up and run away. you probably dont wanna do makikomis on concrete, and you can only use ground techniques when dealing 1 opponent. not saying judoz not great tho, i am personally training judo just because more dojos here.

There is a reason Shuai Jiao teams lose to Judo all the time. Shuai Jiao is power oriented, Judo is leverage based. Also there is a reason some Throws in Judo where you fall onto the opponent. Because in Judo not only do we throw you hard on your back but we throw our body weight ON to your body right after. So not just the ground hitting you but the person is smashing on top of you too. Judo has MMA champions, while all Shuai Jiao and Sanda fighters have ALL failed in the UFC. Even Cung Le got raped in the UFC by an old out of his prime Wanderlei Silva, and got beaten to a bloody mess by Micheal Bisping.... While TieZhang and other Chinese fighters got cut by the UFC for losing all of there fights....