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Amen. Praise be to God 🙏

@ Amen Amen 🙏🏻❤️✝️

Indeed, and Lutheranism holds the true confession of the Christian faith.

I want to be charitable, so before I respond, what are you referring to by "this hell"?

The video is not misleading at all. Lutheranism has always been a liturgical tradition as attest to by our Confessions: "At the outset we must again make the preliminary statement that we do not abolish the Mass, but religiously maintain and defend it. For among us masses are celebrated every Lord’s Day and on the other festivals, in which the Sacrament is offered to those who wish to use it, after they have been examined and absolved. And the usual public ceremonies are observed, the series of lessons, of prayers, vestments, and other like things." (Augsburg Confession, Article XXIV) Present-day German Lutheran churches are still liturgical as well. The largest Lutheran body in Germany (VELKD, which is part of EKD) is getting overrun with liberalism and secularism (as is the Roman Catholic Church in Germany), however, their churches are still liturgical. Have a look at their website: www.velkd.de/schwerpunkte/liturgie SELK, which is a smaller confessional, conservative Lutheran body in Germany, with which we are in communion, is also liturgical: www.selk.de/index.php/liturgie-agenden Throughout history, there have been multiple attempts to force Lutherans and Reformed to unite into a single church. Because of this, sometimes traditional Lutheran practices and beliefs were lost. That is the reason why many faithful German Lutheran clergy and laity came to the US, to freely practice their Lutheran faith without interference and form Lutheran churches here. That's how the LCMS was founded.

Thank you, brother!

Yes, Lutheranism is the way to go. I highly recommend checking out Dr. Jordan B. Cooper's channel if you haven't already.

Thanks, brother.

That's a fair question. Here are a few of the main differences preventing us from reunification with Rome: Doctrinal authority: Rome believes that doctrine is determined by three equally-authoritative sources: Scripture, tradition, and the magisterium. Lutherans believe that doctrine is determined by Scripture, as we believe Scripture is the highest and only infallible authority. We do value tradition, but we view it as a secondary authority and we would not bind our members to believe as doctrine something that is not mentioned in Scripture. The Papacy: The Roman Catholic Church believes that Matthew 16:18 is the establishment of the papacy, and that the bishop of Rome is the head of the universal church by divine right. Lutherans believe that "this rock" that Christ mentions in Matthew 16:18 is referring to St. Peter's confession, not himself as an individual. Historically, Lutherans are actually fine with the bishop of Rome being regarded as the visible head of the church for the sake of maintaining good order, but not because it's a divinely instituted office. Justification: The Roman Catholic Church views justification as an ongoing process that's rather part and parcel with sanctification. As such, they would say that initial justification is by grace through faith, but that one must cooperate with this grace through their good works to continue in this justification. Therefore, they would say that overall, justification is by faith plus works. Lutherans view justification as distinct from sanctification. Justification is viewed as rather binary and sanctification is viewed as a process. Lutherans believe that the Holy Spirit enables us to cooperate with God to grow in holiness through piety and good works for our sanctification, not justification. Lutherans believe that we are declared righteous solely because of our faith that God gives us, therefore we believe that we are justified by faith alone.

@ these are all very understandable points, and good things to think about. Thanks for the explanation.

The fact that the Catholic Church claims a monopoly on salvation is the big one for me. There is more to a church than how it looks. Doctrine is much more important.

I'd encourage you to read Hebrews 12:28-29. "Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire." Worship is not a matter of congregational "style" preference. It's about worshipping in a manner that's acceptable to God - with reverence and awe. If a congregation conducts worship in a manner that mirrors a concert, whether folk or soft rock, that's not reverential. You're right, Christianity is not a cultural religion. That is why Christianity and its worship should not be shaped by the culture. Rather, the culture should be shaped by Christianity. And the beauty of the liturgy is that it unites us across different cultures and languages. Despite not knowing a language, you can understand what is going on as the structure is nearly the same and sometimes even the chant tones are the same.

That's awesome! God bless you!

Catholic lite? No, we're Catholic right!

Did you not watch the video? There are instances of the sign of the cross being made very early in church history. I agree, making the sign of the cross cannot save you from hell. I never implied that it can. Only Jesus' death on the cross is what can save you. The sign of the cross reminds us of His death on the cross through which we have salvation. Just like how crucifixes and crosses help remind us of His death.

The true Catholic Church.

@ when i google catholic church the only then that comes up is the HOLY APOSTOLIC ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. when i google lutheran church, a heretic fat monk that wanted to marry a nun comes up

@@Nonz.M Go to holy land and the only catholic church in the holy sepulcher is roman catholic. The only catholic church with the tombs of saints and apostles is the roman catholic church, makes you wonder where lutherans came from… oh wait its in the name of

Frankly, it is irrelevant what you are or are not impressed by. The worship of the Lutheran Church is liturgical. "We do not abolish the Mass, but religiously maintain and defend it. For among us masses are celebrated every Lord’s Day and on the other festivals, in which the Sacrament is offered to those who wish to use it, after they have been examined and absolved. And the usual public ceremonies are observed, the series of lessons, of prayers, vestments, and other like things." (Augsburg Confession, Article XXIV) Non-liturgical worship is simply not Lutheran. You should know that the Lutheran Church is not a new church, rather, it is the Catholic Church cleansed by the Gospel. That has always been the contention of the Lutheran reformers, and that is why multiple early church fathers are cited in each of our confessional documents to support this claim, but it seems like you haven't read much of the Confessions to even know that. It's unfortunate that you have been influenced by the radical Protestants to think that liturgy is antithetical to true worship. We follow the liturgy because it most clearly and beautifully conveys what we believe about God and worship, which is that in the Divine Service we are not serving God, but He is serving us. The issue is that you pit the liturgy against faithful worship, as if one cannot worship faithfully if the liturgy is being followed. According to you, then, the church had not worshipped faithfully until 1600 years after its existence. Throughout the video, I included clips of people joined as one in prayer and praise, but, of course, you didn't take note of those parts because you've been influenced by the radical Protestants to view liturgy negatively.

​@@Nonz.M Thank you for combating heretical stupidity in the comments

Likewise.

The real Catholic Church.

Take a look: www.gottesdienst.org/gottesblog/2021/4/15/apostolic-succession-in-the-rc-church

That's rather disrespectful and ignorant to refer to the historic liturgy of the Church as "crap". Lutherans, unlike the radical reformers, did not start a new church, but are simply the continuation of the Western Catholic Church, cleansed by the Gospel. As such, Lutherans have maintained the ceremonies that have served the church throughout the ages. "We do not abolish the Mass, but religiously maintain and defend it. For among us masses are celebrated every Lord’s Day and on the other festivals, in which the Sacrament is offered to those who wish to use it, after they have been examined and absolved. And the usual public ceremonies are observed, the series of lessons, of prayers, vestments, and other like things." (Augsburg Confession, Article XXIV)

The 5-point star was an ancient symbol for the five wounds of Christ before the occultists co-opted it. I'm not too sure about the circle around it, though, maybe it represents the crown of thorns.

@@Nonz.M Thank you. Heretofore I've never encountered that symbol re the Five Wounds. Have to say, I was startled by it.

Then you haven't been to enough Lutheran churches.

We have not departed from Catholicism at all. We are, in fact, the true Catholic Church cleansed by the Gospel.

@@Nonz.M There is no True catholic church. never was, never has been and never will be. Christ is not interested in religion or denomination. The only Church Christ is returning for his HIS Church AKA The Bride. it is made up of all who are Born again, repented of theirs sins, acknowledge Christ as their Lord and Saviour - choose to follow Him and Gods word

There is a true Catholic Church - Lutheranism. However, that does not mean that only Lutherans will be saved. Also, we are born again in baptism, and we do not choose Christ. Christ chooses us.

@@Nonz.M 100% certain that is not biblical.

The best Lutheranism there is are the ones that hold to the Lutheran Confessions which state that "Our churches dissent in no article of the faith from the Church Catholic," and also that "we do not abolish the Mass, but religiously maintain and defend it. For among us masses are celebrated every Lord’s Day and on the other festivals, in which the Sacrament is offered to those who wish to use it, after they have been examined and absolved. And the usual public ceremonies are observed, the series of lessons, of prayers, vestments, and other like things." We are not trying to look or act like Roman Catholics. We see ourselves as the continuation of the historic Catholic Church cleansed by the Gospel, therefore we maintain many traditions that have well-served those Christians of old.

Lutherans are "Evangelical Catholics." Traditional Lutherans see no need to abandon the ancient liturgy, just to tweak the theology where needed to bring it more in agreement with Scripture.

The heart of Lutheranism is the Gospel - Christ crucified for us sinners. That is what Lutheranism is at its core. We follow the liturgy because the liturgy best communicates the Gospel and what we believe about God. Ceremony, "pageantry" as you call it, flows out of the understanding that when we gather for Divine Service, something other-worldly is happening. Christ is with us, not only spiritually, but He's bodily present in the Eucharist and therefore reverence ought to be shown. Scripture itself says acceptable worship is worship done with reverence and awe: Hebrews 12:28-29 Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire. I encourage you to read our Confession. Conducting the liturgy reverently is how the Lutheran Church has always worshiped: "we do not abolish the Mass, but religiously maintain and defend it. For among us masses are celebrated every Lord’s Day and on the other festivals, in which the Sacrament is offered to those who wish to use it, after they have been examined and absolved. And the usual public ceremonies are observed, the series of lessons, of prayers, vestments, and other like things." (Augsburg Confession, Article XXIV)

Which is heresy

@@connienewman968 Which part of what I wrote is 'heresy?'

@@Nonz.M Absolutely, but reverence can be shown and the liturgy can be practiced in a variety of forms, as it is done by our fellow Lutherans in other parts of the world without all the high church "pageantry" featured in this video. This is a look at how some Lutherans worship, but to say this is Lutheranism, with the implication that if you don't do all this you can't be Lutheran, is not a good representation of who we are to the world, and shuts many doors for outreach, never allowing us to share the "Gospel -Christ crucified for us sinners" as you put it, because it seems to foreign to some and antiquated to others. To become all things to all men that we might by all possible means save some means that we must broaden our understanding of being "Lutheran." Or maybe better yet, narrow our understanding of being Lutheran to what it originally focused on. The robes, the incense, the candles and such are all part of our tradition... they are not our identity. Had the video also included other aspects of faithful Lutheran churches worshiping in less high church yet still reverent ways would have been a better and fuller representation of the title, "This is Lutheranism."

Keep coping, papist.

i will submit to Rome, when Rome submits to Christ.

@ And you have the capacity to judge when Rome submit to Christ or not?

@swedishcrusader yes, the same way St. Athanasius had the capacity to judge that much, if not most, of the church was continuing to fall into the heresy of Arianism even after the Council of Nicea.

Obviously, you didn't "hear" any words of divine truth because there is music playing over the clips. I agree that the true beauty of a church is in the word of God faithfully shared and the sacraments rightly administered. That's exactly what our liturgy does and that's exactly what you saw in this video. We do draw people to the saving work of Christ on the Cross. That is why most of our churches have crucifixes and not just an empty cross. Beautiful architecture and instruments like the pipe organ are definitely nice-to-have aids to worship, but they are not essential. The beauty about the Liturgy is that it is timeless - it can be done in any time in any place (checkout my other video for more info on the importance of the Liturgy). It's not dependent on any technology or instruments, just the voice of the people.

I'm glad you enjoyed!

Catholic without a Pope is a good way of describing us. Our traditions have root in the Scriptures.

Not sure what you mean by "stuffy", but I agree that singing and chanting are integral parts of Lutheran worship.

Is that padre Pio in your profile picture? You're not one to talk about crazy.

@@Nonz.M You are correct sir!

Come visit a Traditional Latin Mass

Nah come visit the church of the east ☦️

@@MUGUTHIN Thanks, I'm good. Love your church architecture tho, and I always listen to one hymn or other ✝🤝☦

Even more than a traditional Anglican Liturgy? I’m an Ordinariate Catholic, so perhaps I’m biased, but I’m willing to give it a watch. 🙂 Any recommendations on where to look for a beautiful video of a traditional Lutheran liturgy?

@@permanenceaesthetic6545 Anglican liturgy are also beautiful, but I personally find the Lutherans liturgy to be even more beautiful You can check some LCMS liturgy or even some from the classical and traditional Lutherans like the Church of Sweden (even tho they are a progressist church nowadays) Lutherans have a lot in common with Roman Catholics!

You can teach your son to recite the Lord's Prayer just before he sleeps because this invokes God's power of protection over him as he sleeps. Also I suggest playing a few hymns (whether with lyrics or without lyrics) say for 15 to 30 minutes before he sleeps as it is able to calm his mind in a spiritual way. If you have a hymnal, you can find a list of hymns that are recommended to be sung for personal protection or for strengthening one's faith.

@@brandenburg2388 I'm actually planning on getting an LSB for this purpose.

Yes!

Yes, they are!

Thank you! I did spend some time looking for clear baptism clips, but they are a bit hard to find because if a church does record a baptism during the Divine Service one Sunday, it's usually not mentioned in the video title.