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Shane Starr
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2015
Personal self understanding, actualization and growth through typology systems including MBTI, Socionics, and The Enneagram.
On the Connection Between Biology and Psychology (for @PowerRedBullTypology)
On the Connection Between Biology and Psychology (for @PowerRedBullTypology)
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What I learned from watching The Sopranos (from a cognitive functions perspective)
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What I learned from watching The Sopranos (from a cognitive functions perspective)
Cognitive Functions and Intelligence for @theGoodTheBradAndTheUgly
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Cognitive Functions and Intelligence for @theGoodTheBradAndTheUgly
Thoughts on the results of the 2024 election, from a typology standpoint.
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Thoughts on the results of the 2024 election, from a typology standpoint.
Extroverted Feeling (FE) Weirdness (from both MBTI and Socionics perspectives)
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Extroverted Feeling (FE) Weirdness (from both MBTI and Socionics perspectives)
Random thoughts about Introverted Intuition (from a Socionics Perspective)
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Random thoughts about Introverted Intuition (from a Socionics Perspective)
Five MBTI anecdotal items that I think need reconsidering...
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Five MBTI anecdotal items that I think need reconsidering...
Big-5 Traits: What are the Types Best Suited for the 2024 Office Workplace?
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Big-5 Traits: What are the Types Best Suited for the 2024 Office Workplace?
What is unique about the Big-5 Personality System?
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What is unique about the Big-5 Personality System?
MBTI and Socionics Cognitive Functions: Unique Aspects and Overlapping Features
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MBTI and Socionics Cognitive Functions: Unique Aspects and Overlapping Features
...before we get started on Socionics PoLR Functions at Work...
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...before we get started on Socionics PoLR Functions at Work...
MBTI Inferior Function Struggles in the Office
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MBTI Inferior Function Struggles in the Office
My Socionics Typing from @Rusted Typology!
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My Socionics Typing from @Rusted Typology!
Thinking about problems with typology...
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Thinking about problems with typology...
Does the 16 personalities test really suck? Or...
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Does the 16 personalities test really suck? Or...
Typology: Your second place type? ...and other miscellaneous thoughts...
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Typology: Your second place type? ...and other miscellaneous thoughts...
Martin Heidegger and the Magic of Introverted Sensing
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Martin Heidegger and the Magic of Introverted Sensing
Si Postscript: Introverted Sensing in the here and now.
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Si Postscript: Introverted Sensing in the here and now.
Si and... Feelings!!?? An inside look at Introverted Sensing.
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Si and... Feelings!!?? An inside look at Introverted Sensing.
Luxury Apartment Complex Fantasy Team: 16 Types in 16 Positions
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Luxury Apartment Complex Fantasy Team: 16 Types in 16 Positions
General Premises of Typology: Does type change with age?
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General Premises of Typology: Does type change with age?
MBTI Types and Atheism: The SJ Pragmatists
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MBTI Types and Atheism: The SJ Pragmatists
MBTI Types and Religion: NFs; the true, the good, and the beautiful.
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MBTI Types and Religion: NFs; the true, the good, and the beautiful.
so all the channels....
Thank you for the mention bro, appreciate you, I was pleasantly surprised you added Mind Maverick to the list, he is not a big channel but the guy is very solid and is quite knowledgable
The best answer to the question, would be inheritance. Not only can you inherit traits and features from your parents, you can also inherit traits transgenerational. There also deactivated inherited genes, that are from the beginning of your heritage, that can be activated under high impact situations. Also there are traits that become inherited do to impactful situations ( diseases or accidents) called mutations or errors. All that can modulate or change your genetic material and brain structure. So yeah that can even in extreme cases change your personality adaptively, preferences are already there but are now rearranged. MTBI is first and foremost not scientificly proven, because there need to be interest and money. It still in the state of early pioneering. Additionally as already explained, there are lots of cofactors that have to be deduced, to make it necessarily the case, your one type and not the other.
The only one not on this list that I think is worth mentioning is John Schultz Barnes. He rarely uploads and doesn't have many videos, but the ones he does have are good, and his 3-4 videos on type and metaphysics are great th-cam.com/video/ZTI5bipbyXI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ps5mTem6XeY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/users/liveaU7ATb2x8mI th-cam.com/video/xRH7lVInV8Y/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/hhbBbHiUSBY/w-d-xo.html
Subscribed! Thank you.
I wanna be honest, this guy have the same name as me "shane starr"
suit matching car interior perfectly, as always ;)
@@PowerRedBullTypology Recording your video tomorrow; would have done it today but a pulled tooth at the dentist's office got in the way. 😬
Without taking the time to gather Se data, my intuition will automatically fill in the missing data with assumptions. I'll jump to conclusions and can become anxious/paranoid whether of people's intentions or my girlfriend cheating, etc.
Thank you
what is your idea about linking the biological with the psychological. For example, is there a relation between functions and things like for exmample (prenatal) hormonal levels and what is tied with it the idea that types could look like each other. Do you believe in that and why or why not? It's generally considered a somewhat taboo subject, but what is more interesting to me seems the question whether it has validity or not, no matter if its commonly accepted or not or seen as moral or not.
@@PowerRedBullTypology I'll see what I can conjure up over the next few days!
Just finished. Firstly, thank you for taking the time to make this. I think those examples, as well as going through each type of lead intelligence, are(is) useful. In my experience, I have found smart ISTJs to look like smart INTPs (which i believe you mentioned very briefly) and vice versa and so I think Spock is a great example here. Regarding high Si types when intelligent more generally, excelling academically also matches my personal experience, and I think that's a great way to point it out to others as it's an easy cultural reference point. Very few people have made it through public school without seeing that type of academically successful classmate. I agree this can also extend to the SFJs like you said, but as you mentioned it it does look a little different. @AnotherMajesticINFJ pointed out once that the high Fe types in problem solving tend to ask for help. So, when intelligent then, we can probably expect them to be very good at knowing who to ask questions to, or maybe even what questions should even be asked. I'm speculating a bit on that last part but let me know if that rings true with your life experience with SFJs. Something else I often think about and notice is the extent to which lower functions, like 3rd, can become rather good compared to even general population who has it for a lead. Steve Jobs would be a good example. There's a quote I saw in an IDRlabs article, "Steve jobs may have auxillary Ni, but it's better than yours." We can probably extend this idea to other highly intelligent versions of each type. Hermione Granger has no problem with generating ideas to supplement her problem solving, Spock as (at least to my memory) no problem knowing what right and wrong is (the same goes for a very bright INTJ I know). And I'm going to take a guess that the ISFJ you knew was probably surprisingly (or maybe not surprising) good at recognizing or synthesizing logically consistent arguments, stances, opinions etc. I'll stop there as I'm going on too long, but thank you again!
@@theGoodTheBradAndTheUgly thank you for the request and thank you for your thoughtful words here which might eclipse what I've shared in the video! What you said about FE leads absolutely rings true in my experience and also you are right about the ISFJ I had in mind. And yes, these characteristics are indicative of a certain kind of intelligence which, for better or worse, is as demonstrable in cases of it lacking as it is in people who have it. Finally, I appreciate what you said about the tertiary function and it's something I would like to dive into more deeply soon. This is one area where MBTI systems and Socionics part ways: In MBTI systems someone's third function can be so demonstrative and strong that one can mistake it for theirs or someone else's lead function, whereas in Socionics it's more of a try-hard show-off like thing that you're going to not be very talented with. In this particular debate, I side with the MBTI interpretation of the third function. Thanks again for your contributions, I appreciate you!
@@theGoodTheBradAndTheUgly One more thing: @AnotherMajesticINFJ is one of my favorite channels; brilliant mind, insightful information and he seems like a nice person too.
Te and Fe you encounter a lot in politics. With Ne and Se together they form the 4 power essences. Even if Ne and Se have other primary realms. Ti and Fi define which ground you stand on. With Ni and Si providing the knowledge. Ni and Si leads are both obsessed with knowledge. It is only an operational difference.
I want to know from an SI lead, how far can you think back in time, what you ate for example? Is it weeks month or years, in which you know what exactly did you eat.
@@themanwiththegreatmachete3613 for me I can tell you exactly what I ate everyday for the last week, and then I can tell you the kind of diet (number of meals and what I eat for each meal) I've had for the last month or several months, And in general I can tell you what my diets have been as far back as I can remember to my early childhood. Part of this comes from intentional eating; I'm careful about my diet, and I think that makes it easier to remember what I ate.
I think one of the topics that is missing a great deal of exposure is the issue of high intelligence and how it affects very common types like ISTJ and ISFJ. I happen to be specifically interested in these two since the intuitive dominated online sphere often glosses over these two. Anecdotes, examples, how they're different, how they change and appear when highly intelligent, etc
@@theGoodTheBradAndTheUgly Thanks for the suggestion; I'll have a little something for tomorrow!
this is why i think of Fe as 'social engagement' -- it covers both the 'expression' (socionics) view and 'harmonization' (mbti) view. It's based more on what type of information is being processed (i.e., social dynamics) ...
You mentioned that you may not be an SLI in socionics, what do you type as in Socionics?
ENFJs also burn themselves out socially: going to out with friends late, drinking a bit too much, not going to get d early enough to recover and maybe doing it again if they are peer pressured
I get ISTJ on everything and this doesn't sound familiar to me at all. My life and structure of self has phases and chapters and seasons. Thoughts?
Your clothes match the clothes and that star matches your last name. That can not be chance!
Ha!
I am not from the US and therefore did not vote. So I am neither mad nor enthusiastic about it. I see Trump as the more economical choice. I am a AnCap, so I am against the state by principle and it will always become inefficient at some point. It is a constant that we have finite resources. Efficiency is the only solution to generate max profit. Lowest cost and prices for the people generated by competition. Sustainability can only be archived if you act efficiently with resources. Fe in politics fails, cause it is not sustainable, if you not atleast have some Te experts, which come in with the plans and solutions.
The way I look at is that "How you demonstrate or show emotions" means that you make a correct assessment or translation from your internal feelings to your surroundings in a way the surroundings (other people) understand it. If you throw your racket on the ground in an angry way, that is showing emotions, but not in a way that for these people you were with is fitting to the situation. So your emotion might be frustration and you showed frustration, but if the people in that environment do not communicate their emotions in that manner, then it's like speaking German to a Frenchman. Maybe they would say " ah, I really suck today" would be their way of in a friendly way to communicate they are frustrated in that situation. Fe knows where and when to speak in a specific language. My gf is Fe dom and I see how she always knows which things to emphasize or which things to sort of leave out when communicating. She's always communication what she thinks, but for example with a very easily angered person she will not press any buttons to anger them more, whereas to someone else it might work better to be more straight forward and then she'll be more straight forward. The strength of Fe is that they seem to see which sort of language someone communicates, and then speak in that specific language to that person, or if they speak to a crowd speak only with words or sentences that the majority of people are going to understand in the way it was intended to be understood. In my view people with PoLR Fe really, really struggle with Fe much more than inferiors, just as I (INTP) struggle more with Se than I see in INTJ/INFJ's. A friend of mine I suspect is an ISTJ for example asks how I am in a totally wrong tone. He does not put a friendly sound in it, which makes it sound off.
Time fundamentally is a restricted frame, where actions are possible. Certain themes and concepts are universally true and become therefore timeless, archetypical. But it is not only the relation to the self with the universe, it is the universe with concepts from the universe, were the meaning lies and ultimately were it concludes. Ni in practice is cutting everything off, that is not eternal. In simpler terms everything devoid of meaning.
The what?
I think the general pattern seems to be that people become more orderly when they get older, as the general trend is that children are not orderly (which kids wants to order their room or seems to care about it? It's pretty rare..) and the more people get removed from that, the more orderly they become. Interestingly enough there is a pattern with calcium and magnesium where magnesium is high in the bones of children, which is a flexible mineral that prevents the bone from breaking when the child falls, while calcium is very hard, brittle and resists changing it's shape, at the expense of breaking. It's a bit like glass or stone in that sense. They're hard, but when they fall on the ground they're broken. And the general trend in terms of minerals is that the older people get , the higher on average their calcium levels become and the lower their magnesium level. SO when an 80 year old falls, they're likely to break their bone. Similarly, when people get older, they tend to become more rigid rather than less rigid (at least, that is the general trend). they become _more_ set in their ways and loose open mindedness. So in terms of typology, my guess would be that the Si/Ni goes up, and the Ne/Se typically tends to go down. I'm talking about trends and not specific cases of course, because some people want to let go their orderliness in order to be free and they might succeed if putting in enough effort, but I've rarely seen people without intention just get more flexible and more open minded rather than when they were younger. Maybe they get more forgetful and that forgetfulness makes them seem less orderly, because they've forgotten the order they want, but then are they really less orderly or have they just no recollection of their order preference? So bottom line in my opinion is that once biology changes, cognition changes with it as we're all slaves to our biology. You can of course fight your biology, just as you can fight your sexual preference, but even though you might want to sleep with a woman as a gay man, you're still gay because actions do not make you gay or not, but your actual deeper sexual desires that you have no control over.
An adaptable person may adaopt to different partners in different parts of their lives. So from the outside it may seem they have changed. But the bottom line is that their personality is that they are adaptable. That is the actual core reason of their changes. OR a person might want to be a different person and tries to be a differnet person in different parts of their lives. Then their personality trait is that they want to change, rather than any of the changes they make. From the very external Te-Se view things might seem very different because they tend to just observe the very external, visible, measurable side of things, but once you dig deeper there is usually a pattern and an underlying reason for things that is consistent, just not that easily to see for the naked eye.
@@PowerRedBullTypology I see where you are coming from and you present a coherent and plausible view point for analogous changes in the body and in personality. I still wonder what the cash value is of holding fast to the theory that our function stack is set, similar to our ingrained preferences such as sexuality, as you mentioned. And if this is the case, why are the world's leading psychologists not on board with this point of view? On another note, if you have another channel where you are producing content I would be among your most interested followers. Let me know if you have anything in the works coming up!
Thanks for the testimony, the Rusted system is based on stricter correlations for this reason it is more effective
I tried the same test you showed and the wording really made it difficult. As one example, I'm traditional with certain values, but I'm generally willing to change when I see a logical flaw with a value. I got SLUAI, which is usually ENFP or ESFP. The biggest issue I have is that I have a mental disorder, Schizophrenia, so I'm naturally paranoid, stressed, and a loner to a degree. If I knew which word comparisons were the signifier for ESFP, I'd probably be able to suss out why it wasn't accurate for me. Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks, good video.
RCOEI correlates to INTJ. Also first time testing. Nice and efficient that test.
That's interesting. I got RCOAI (Calm) on the Big Five Test and it apparently correlates to INFJ. I've never seen this before and had no way to try to manipulate the result (I had no idea what would correlate with INFJ). So, very nice support for typing outside of the system.
I always dislike if they portrey structured as one end of the spectrum, yet describe only the positive part about it, whereas the opposite 'unstructured" seems to adress more so the negative part about it than the positive. You could also say that structured lacks flexibility and the opposite is flexible. Then inflexible or a word like uptight sounds bad. It's better to choose more neutral words. I think a lot of people are mistyped because some things simply sound much better and people (possibly subconsciously) do not want to be the negative thing one of the two. improvising vs planned would already be a more neutral description where there already is a bit less lack of balance in how good or bad they sound .It also highlights the good aspects of both.
@@PowerRedBullTypology I agree, and I'm going to address that in an upcoming video.
Keep up the good work brother, this is the content that people need and can find helpful
Thanks, your encouragement means a lot to me@@Just_Rusted !
Could you do a housetour one time? I'm curious how you decorated it. My guess is that it looks very nice?
@@PowerRedBullTypology ... More likely an extensive room tour, as my family members are not as aesthetically and organizationally particular and focused as me.
Thank you for your insightful thoughts! I've been so focused (and frustrated) on the details of where things are not lining up that I've failed to "see outside the box" in observing my own functions at work as I try to make sense of overlapping yet distinct systems of typology. This gives me ideas for more videos for me (or someone else) to work on.
Ne creates endless ideas, and they are not pushed towards 1 cohesive idea like Ni. Similarly Te has endless ways of thinking, but they are all compartments that are not interconnected. It's ok for Te that in 1 subject thinking works one way, where in another subject it works another way. The thoughts or thinking are not pushed towards 1 ' big' thought and the thinking in each subject is allowed to conflict with another thinking compartment about another subject , as each thing is seen as it's own thing with it's own rules. This is different from Ti as when Ti makes a rule, it must be applied to all subjects, and no thinking rule or law can really conflict antoher, as everything must be coherent with eachother, no matter the subject. I think for this reason types with both these fucntions of Ne and Te (INFP, ENFP, ISTJ, ESTJ) get most confused and annoyed when there are 2 different systems that are not the same, as it's primarily the thinking and intuition functions that are involved in such topic as typology and they basically create endlesss amounts of systems in their head that do not connected. Types with Ni and Ti both (INFJ, ENFJ, ISTP, ESTP) on the other hand will likely read 10 sources that conflict , yet create 1 system out of al these sources in their head based on what seems most logical and cohesive _and_ use Ni to perceive the 1 big narrative that is the same in all of them, and believe in that own idea they have formed based on these different sources that say somewhat different things. I think for this reason they get less frustrated with somehwat different function definitions, whereas types with Ne and Te get most confused/annoyed ALso, Si might play a part in this as it's so detail focussed and if the details do not match up, this is a big problem because the big idea is formed out of all the details and if hte details are unsure, there is not enough stable foundation for any idea on top of that. I feel most sure about Te and it's issues with rules and how it takes things very literally and can have different systems in their head. Ne on the other hand I am slgihly less sure about since also Se could have issues with things that do not literally look the same, as sensing does not spot patterns and takes things more literally rather than pattern orienated. All the people Iv'e seen frustrated in this way were at least Te/Fi users, but both infps and ENTJ's ive seen frustrated about different definitions in systems or such things, so It think Te is the main cause of the issue. Anyway, just some thoughts
Aren’t you boiling in a full suit everyday man?
Judging from how much you love Rusted, you are probably ILI. Or MBTI intj. Socionics Dualism in play…
So beautiful
@@courtjester3216 and no people too!!
@@shaneaverystarr even better
I mean alright but Shane do you think you are extraverted?
@@courtjester3216 I appreciate this question because it gives me the opportunity to answer... No! I know I'm not extroverted; at least not in the social sense of the word. That's why, like I said in the video, when I meet people off the street and we're talking the cartoon 16 Personalities jargon, the best way to describe my personality in that arena is still ISTJ, and it will stay that way. But in Socionics, the terms extroversion and introversion mean something different than the common sense or popular meaning, or even the popular typology meaning of the word, so in Socionics I accept it (begrudgingly).
LSE sounds about right to me. Glad that the typing session went so well
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Thank you for the kind words Shane, nice to see this video. I will use this video as an opportunity to talk a bit about the whole Se leading and Se demo issues people have, not only the Se leading is CONCIOUS and the Se demo is UNCONCIOUS but there are also two important dichotomies that can make any typing much easier and should tell the difference between types like SLE and LSE fairly easily. That would be the Dynamic versus Static dichotomy, a Dynamic type is the classic wait and see type, observe a situation before acting, want to see how things are like in movement, while a Static types like Se base react quickly and respond to situations quickly, they are impulsive, there is a lack of this "wait and see" quality, in the movie Furiosa, we are introduced to young Furiosa and in the span of just a few minutes we can conclude she is a Static type due to her impulsive, quickly responding nature while someone like Immortan Joe being a good example of a Dynamic type, everyone around him rushes him into action and to make decisions and he waits, he wants to make sure how the situation looks, to understand it before acting in some impulsive fashion, he might be an LSE. So just this dichotomy makes LSE vs SLE typing very different, then we have the way our elements work, the Demo lacks the specific control of the leading as it is unconcious, many people make a mistake of seeing a lot of element and assuming it must mean it is "valued" or the "base", not only that but of course the definitions of Se are completely butchered if we look at classic socionics sources, any remotely aggressive and competitive person getting typed Se leading is proof of it.
LSE SP3!
Loved my typing experience as well 🤍🐟
that's awesome man glad to hear you've had a good experience being typed. looking forward to hearing more about your official typing
Was a great experience and you're a good example of the type!
This is a great idea for your channel
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by the way, I am not sure to what degree the goal of this channel is just to express your thoughts or is the goal more to grow the channel. If hte goal is to grow the channel i think it could help if you woukd make more "commercial" thumbnail pictures. Just a guy in front of a camera is very 2008 style as people did not make special thumbnails ot attract people. As no one did htat, it was not disadvantagious. However, in 2024 a lot of thumbnails are optimised to attract people and that is your competition. It does not mean you yourself have ot make thumbnails, but you could for example use an Ai bot that can make pictures make a thumbnail and see if generates more views. However, again, I am not sure if that is even your goal.
@@PowerRedBullTypology You are right. I just haven't cared enough about the "Fe stuff" to put in any work towards that end. My goal is only just to share my thoughts with anyone interested in the subject(s) I'm addressing. Growing the channel into something bigger has not been a goal of mine. Perhaps in the future I can be part of a team with top quality productions, where I could contribute more on the writing end....
Although I never really doubted my type as I first scored intp 2 times when i first tested it when I knew nothing about it or cared about it, then got into it, got to know the functions and these functions of this resonated with me very much. All the other function of hte opposite quadra, I do not reconize myself in. So that felt that felt pretty sure. However, the only thing I have slight doubts about is htat it feels my intuition is strong compared to some other intps, who seem more close minded and my Fe is not that bad. I am open to every idea and most of my reasonign actually comes from intuition. Howevever, some systems say intps have strong Ni in the backgorund liek socionics, which might explain it. My idea is htat I am an intp, but somewhat closer to hte border of ENTP than the other intps. I do not think all people of a type are the stereotype of that type..they are like countries and peoplare like cities. The people in the middle of france are more typical french people than those living on the borders. However, in pure theory they are all still french. I have some social anxiety, that i can supress with some supplements (L theanine, the calming part in tea, but higher dosages than in tea) and if I do that I behave more extravertedly and enjoy it more too obviously without needless anxiety going on. I have been using it for a few months now and it's strange i do not have social anxiety around people, since I've had it for so long. My social anxiety seems to be consistnat with my digestion issues, meaning I have it more when I have more digestion issues too. So in that sense, to me it seems hte body is just a machine and if you make alterations in machine by for example a supplemnt, then the person will behave different. My sister for example used to be much more introverted younger until she got low thyroid complaints. Then she started using thyroid hormone and certain symptoms just would not go away, so she and her doc upped hte dosis to see what it would do and it would make her way more extravverted too. Way more talking, way more doing than she ever did before. She was less calm than before, less patient. So ever since that i had to get to know her a bit all over again and the question is. Who is she really? Is she actually the extravert that had a difficiencty as in too low thyroid hormone that made her appear like an introvert or wsa she just an introverted person becasue that is who she was before the hormones? Btw, thyroid hormoens are just the same natural hormones as you already have. It's really hard to define yourself as one thing as you are basically hte bitch of your biology. if you change your biology, your personality will likely change with it. But then who are _you_ exactly? I think the idea that you are a certain type of person is quite stable for most of people's lives unless their biology changes, which is often either when people are really young (children that all go through different degrees and kinds of puberties) and old people when their body is crumbling down and some functionality goes out of hte window and they become a bit of a caricature of themselves (at least, I find a lot of old people become less balanced when older). The old introvert seems to just retract as that is their most basic instinct and the extraverted stuffgoes out of the window and become easily reclusive. It's the same question with "mental diseases" like autism. Is the autism part of the persons personality or should it be viewed as a seperate entity? There is not really a right answer, ebcause it depends on how you define these things. I think when it comes to measuring how social a person is and judigng it based on extraverted/introverted functions really only works best for an axis like Fe/Ti as Fe is fully social as it's feeling (thus people orienated) and extraverted (so pointed outwards) and Ti is not social as it's things related (thinking) and introverted (internal). I think this is why few Ti dominants will mistype as Fe dom and opposite (But thats just my observation) as you can use the social aspect to. However, other extraverted functions are not nessisarily aimed at people. I think Jung never really meant to describe introversion and extraversion as it's now commonly used in 2024, where its mostly social with humans. I think it's a matter of whether you camera's are turned intowards or outwards. Te does not nessisairly need people, as sure it's external but thinking does not directly relate to people. It's about getting things doen, goals and what not. Where is the people aspect? Sure, people can be used as resource for goals, but Te is not nessisarily that people orienated. Sure, they usually do not become invisible flies on the wall when people are around, but people cost energy and if its not contructive, why invest so much time in people? I mean,I would say Te is 50/50% social, as extraversion could maybe be seen as social , but thinking is not social (despite what OPS claims). I have at least not seen good arguments for it. Similarly Fi is 50/50 social as it's feeling (thus social, human orienated at least) but introverted. So when a person is in the Te/Fi axis it is likely harder to judge whether they are an introverted or extravert as both fucntions are kinda 50% "social". However, with Te I find they like working together with people ok, but ido not want too much feeling stuff with people. So they like the sort of collegue kind of distance better than the family kind of aspect (with most people). There are a few where they can be fully themselves usually, and those only get acces to their Fi. Their actual feelings and such. For the rest the (high) Te tends to keep a ditance. Maybe i forgot to mention 'high Te' or "high Ti ' sometimes, but that is often what I mean if i talk about a Te type, whereas in theory that could also be an infp.
Si descriptions really bring objects to life, for me - whether that's people talking or writing in that very descriptive way. Without Si it's difficult for me to picture something in my imagination unless I've seen it in person before.
Also, I think the correlation with Si and memory is true, but I think in a sense all introverted functions rely on memory as they all try to see the bigger picture over time and the consisntat overal truth of things. With Si it is simply about experiences and the sensations you got from it, so it clea rit is epxeirnce based. However, you could say the same for Ti and it's 'Ti-framework'. This framework is build over time based on your "experiences" with thinking related topics. I remmeber thinking as a kid that it did not make sense that the trailer of optimus prime would just dissapear when he would transofrm into a robot or how other things in cartoons didnt make logical sense. I think all these experiences with (il)logical subjects help build the Ti framework of laws or rules that are always true (like the rule of of non contradiction) So over time it will grow because you accoumulate more info. Fi tries to figure out for example the true good and of things or the consistant values that remain true over time and each experience will help to make that grow. Ni..well, it's obviously Ni builds up over time too, and you could say its based on experience too as the pattenrs you notice are build based on what you as a person experinece yoo, yet Ni is more subconcious than Si so you might not be aware of how it's actually creating these Ni insights, but again it's basically you interacting with a subject that makes you (learn to) see the hidden patterns. Extraverted functions o nthe other hand do seem to work more quickly from the start, but they do not get better over tiime as they do not have a database. Extraverted functions are more like working memoryi n a computer. IT's quick, but each time you restart the computer it's empty again. introvreted functions are more like the HD that is slower, but it remembers info no matter if you turn off hte computer for a year or not.
@@PowerRedBullTypology thank you for another great contribution, to both my video and to my personal understanding. And yes I see the similarity and perhaps overlap of many introverted functions, and moreover, the way to functions can work together to mimic one that is missing. As I was making my video I was thinking of how people could interpret my understanding of Si (with a focus on one's impressions of an object) as instead a combination of Se recognition and Fi processing. And while I could see how this works, it presents more problems than it solves at least in reference to typing people. I find simple and clear definitions like your own "Si simply about experiences in the sensations you've got from it" to be most helpful, as the more nuanced and complex our understandings grow, the murkier things get, until we ultimately can't see the simplest of things, like an introverted person versus an extroverted person, something a middle school child with no typology experience can identify right away. Of course we want to have it a deeper than grade school understanding of typology, but I've seen it reach a point of diminishing returns when things cease to make common sense. Thanks again for your insights!
- I strongly relate to clothes and the feeling they give when wearing them. Most clothing to me does not feel like my skin can breath in them. So basically most clothes annoy me. Synthetic clothes are basically out of the question, but even simple cotton annoys me somehwat. The only clothes that do not annoy me is woolen clothes or slik/woole, so whenever I get home i immediately take off my 'nice looking clothes'and put on my all silk/wollen mix clothes, becuase its the only thing that does not annoy me. The problem with Si seems to me that once you are aware of something, it will bother you constantly, untill you resolved it. And the downside is that the internal sensation is so strong that you can not just ignore it. - I also can sense when I'm getting sick because I strongly monitor my own internal sensations. Whenver I wake up I sense my base mood and I can clearly give it a rating (like 7.3 out of 10) and my body state (like do I feel stiff, or other issues - i have some health issues that vary by day). I use these ratings to see if certain activities are a good idea that day or not. I know if my base mood is lower that anything that is objectively nice is still not experienced as nice because my base mood influences it. So I try to really seperate everything, like which degree is influenced by my base mood and to what degree something is related to the thing I am doing. I get a certain type of mood before I get sick (like regular flue) that is a very subtile difference, yet I sense it. I am a forgetful person about daily stuff (which maybe contradicts good Si) so I use timers a lot to make sure I do not forget to eat and feel bad (hypoglycemia) because of that. However, I often exactly like 10 seconds before the timer goes off that i put on hours before, I feel the urge to look at the timer (which I didnt look at once before). This really happens a lot. Maybe like 20% of the time I am seconds away from knowing the timer will go off an dI harly ever look at the timers. I did not have this in the beginniing when I started to use timers, but I think the strength of SI is that it builds databases for everything and starts out pretty naive, yet over time it will try to get see the patterns of the sensing world. In that sense it's like Ni, but yet the pattterns are in the sensing world. It's the same with sleeping. The more hours I sleep, the worse I feel immediately when I wake up, yet I know when that happens it's a good sign. If i sleep short, I immedaitely feel good, but after some hours i know I will begin to yawn and I know especially about between 2 and 5 PM I will feel so shitty. Somehow after that it slowly gets better, which I do not understand, yet perceive it to happen. It does not mean I feel good, but you'd logically expect that you just feel more and more tired as time goes on. It's also interesting living with my Polr Si girlfriend, who basically does not learn or remember things at all this way and does not know any patterns. So it's interesting to see what sort of problems this apparently gives. SHe can make the same mistakes repeatedly and repeatedly does not learn from it, even though I try to mention what happaned the previous 100 times she did hte same thing. Only after quite a qhile she will have the 'insight' and then she learns it and understands it deeply. Si feels more like you learn a litttle bit with each experience, and Ni feel like few but bigger 'updates'. In essnece i think Si has a lot to do with correlations. Everything that correlates with eachother is stored in a database. So let'ssay the best hollidays you had were in a camper, then camper somehow is now connected to good hollidays, so the idea of a camper will give you a good sensation. If chrismas time makes you happy, then everything related to christmas makes you happy in advance too, despite half of the things have nothing to do with what actally makes you happy. Likely certain aspects about chrismas may make you happy, and half of them are just there accidentally. Maybe you like going to your family again, yet you also the idea of the chirstmas tree makes you happy, despiete that chrimas tree never actually itself gave you positive feelings. Si in my view clearly registers correlations, but it can take a while before you might see which correlation is a causation and which is not. FOr example, when there is no christmas tree for a few yeasr and you experience the same joy at christmas, then maybe the positive feeling of the christmas tree will go down, as apparently it's not that important. Each new experience that is somewhat different than before (which all experiences are) can increase the accuracy of Si. I think Si can be hard if you are afraid of dogs because a dog once bit you, and you do not have enough positive experiences with dogs to counter that. Then basically in your mind there remains to be a 100% correlation with dogs and negativeity. So sometimes it's good if t he Si user is forced to do something they find scary, only to find out it now works out well and there is no problem. Hwoever, it still seems like the negative experiences leave a bigger impact unfortunately. So maybe you will now be somewhat less afraid of dogs, yet still be afraid of dogs. I think the longer the SI person lives though, the more the negative experiences accumulate and eventually you will have a negative experience with evertything if you were to live forever. In a way Si leaves scars like that and eventuall yyou'll be full of scars. However, Si is just in my third slot as intp, yet I do strongly relate to about half of hte things about it. For example, in music I love it when its unpredictable. I love strange modulations to other keys and novelty, as to me it began to feel like most music is the same after listening to music for some years. They're all th same repeating patterns and although predictability is soothing for Si, my Ne wants novel stuff. It wants to be surprised. However, music is parly sensing and partly intuition I'd say as music are also patterns and I just dislike the same patterns (like chord progresions) over and over again and it numbs my brain. However, when things are really more purely sensing (like food) i can eat the same thing 1000's times without getting bored of it. My rating of what tastes good enver really changes either. I basically still like the same stuff when i was a kid (although I think i like somewhat more like most kids do not like bitter stiff and such).
@@PowerRedBullTypology I love this response! I agree and resonate with everything you said, point by point. Reading your response was like seeing a fresh Si video with several nuggets of sweet information I can store for my own understanding and entertainment. (Unfortunately, your example about dogs hits very close to home with me, which is probably why I'm a cat guy instead of a dog guy). As for Si PoLR significant others, I'm not quite dealing with that but nearly every serious relationship I've had has been with ENFP women, and as you know, this will put them at odds with me on many day-to-day priorities and tasks. Great stuff; thank you for your contribution, I appreciate you!
@@PowerRedBullTypology find INTPs to be not only the most intellectual type (not surprising) but the most interesting as well. I feel like I have the most to learn from your personality type. I'm looking forward to when you start producing videos on your channel.