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This Govt's big vulnerability
This week, Raw Politics examines what has become a regular point of weakness for the coalition and asks why National, Act and NZ First can't seem to get on top of the health system's political risks.
Newsroom political editor Laura Walters, senior political reporter Marc Daalder and co-editor Tim Murphy discuss if Health Minister Shane Reti has been fairly blamed, or if his minor party associates and broader Cabinet funding indecision have combined to undo his first nine months in office.
We look at the brewing storm between the Act Party and the Speaker, Gerry Brownlee, which is in part a result of the open warring between Act and Te Pāti Māori and part Brownlee's impatience at parties resiling from agreed cross-party agreements for the business of the House.
The panel anticipates this weekend's National Party AGM in Auckland - will it be a triumph in ancient Roman terms for the caucus returning from Wellington having changed the whole political orthodoxy in the capital and putting their virtual-signalling opponents on the back foot?
Finally, the panelists recommend something to read, listen to or watch on the weekend ahead.
Marc: David Williams' Newsroom story disclosing finance minister Nicola Willis overruled advice on a South Island waste-to-energy facility.
Tim: Another in-house one here, for Laura Walters' Newsroom story analysing the wholesale changes at the top of the public service.
Laura: The Guardian’s two-part analysis with in-depth interactive looking at all of the coalition Government’s policies that are expected to have a negative impact on Māori.
Raw Politics will be available on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your favourite shows every Friday, and you can watch it on TH-cam above.
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  • @spikandspan-u8h
    @spikandspan-u8h 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My tax dollars go to this 🤮

  • @amandamitchell8894
    @amandamitchell8894 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Health System in New Zealand has been on the Rocks for decades now, regardless of who is in Government. Obviously due to longterm mismanagement and also due to our population increasing. Same issues with ROADING infrastructure too. When NZs population was around 2.5 million we coped well. But we increased our numbers faster than we could keep up with. Every future Govt will keep inheriting the same problems.

  • @GaryPeters-nv8pj
    @GaryPeters-nv8pj วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rubbish, left leaning dribble. Let's see how long my comment lasts. Prove me wrong.

  • @lizbmusic11
    @lizbmusic11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a cockup! This government should resign!!!

  • @dancocks7790
    @dancocks7790 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All that money spent on Covid and none of it seems to have gone towards health and hospitals etc. WTF

  • @susannebruce1013
    @susannebruce1013 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These news people are all so brilliant, they know everything, why don't you go run the hospitals, than we will see what sort of a mess we would be in, totally sick of Journalists, Newspapers and TV news with your lot going on and on, just jump on everything this Government does one minute after they after they announce it Jenna Lynch, Tova O'Brien two dramatics if I've seen anything, just don't watch this rubbish anymore, you are totally ridiculous, go get a proper job

  • @JohnnyPaulTutaki
    @JohnnyPaulTutaki 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe Brownlee thinks Seymour is just a snivelling little..

  • @Myke...
    @Myke... 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    seriously seymour started being cocky and getting his way, but as soon as events go against him he is a snarky schoolboy, and what Chhour is going about is a bit of smoke screen that they are still not addressing 5 00 odd kids protection etc and ministry cutting cost and not explaining what they doing with boot camp etc

  • @barrynichols2846
    @barrynichols2846 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By vulnerability, you mean neo-liberalism. The old trick of underfund, run services into the ground and sell off to private interests. Cigereti is incompetent and not a doctor anymore, he's in the business of private sickcare. The government's vulnerability is they are gamg of neo-liberal thieves. Mega wealthy donors have paid big money to this team of ramraiders

  • @westernkingi9157
    @westernkingi9157 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This racist colonial thinking national government is going to lose the next election.

  • @bkitch5755
    @bkitch5755 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The health system is broken why dont you ask that question

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's been asked and answered but no one likes the solution - which is impractical for us to carry out as a nation right now. Successive government's have been cutting services since the 90's, usually national cuts a heap which breaks the system, then labour refunds the programs it can and tries to add the ones we need for a modern medical industry. That's been the history of the last 30 years, mate. Look at just the last 7 months, nearly 100 health programs across the board have been cut either directly or by cutting the organizations which run multiple ones. Key sent all our lab work to aussie and shut down the last place in NZ which made pharmaceuticals and before that in '05 they took 4 billion out of the health budget. In the 90's Shipley made hospitals charge you for getting hurt or sick. Add into that the global inflation and the fact we don't produce anything really valuable anymore, causing a low dollar, and you have the reason why it now costs so much more than before. Then of course the cost issue leads to underpaying staff, which leads to underemployment and poorer conditions which feeds the cycle of losing workers. And the longer training time thanks to better tech and techniques - in that it's mostly the limited places we allow per year, meaning limited pools of graduates. It's complicated, but the answers are well known, the people actually IN the industry have been writing about it for years now, each looking at their own small parts of it and trying to get the country to take notice. Now we have a government who "rejects" their warnings and even that there's the system is broken. Just like they did for 3 years with the homelessness crisis. It's what they do.

  • @chubbybubbers13
    @chubbybubbers13 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marxist trash media

  • @Myke...
    @Myke... 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This govt really don't communicate well, and a lot of cutting, without any plans put in place. I love the media tackle the narrative (luxon dodges questions)and get them to commit, magic word when.

  • @brentmarshall928
    @brentmarshall928 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You don't fix a 6 yr old Health system failure in 6 or 8 months. This might take a year or two and then along comes another Govt and around we go again. A 4 yr term might help but is not the total answer at all. Very good administrators are the answer..

    • @kiwikiwi223
      @kiwikiwi223 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Everytime labour comes in they usually spend more on health from previous govt. Everytime national comes in they make cuts and underfund and it usually goes backwards again 😂

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      6 years? Why lie on the net? We all know Key's National government sent our labs and labwork over to aussie, throwing up costs we can't get back without billions in investment. We also remember his wage freeze, which caused mass protests. You think in 9 years of no raises caused NOBODY to leave NZ? And him defunding and shutting down EVERY rape crisis center in the entire south island. Then before him in the 90's when Shipley made our hospitals charge people for getting injured or sick! You can bullshit all you want, but National's history with health is still a matter of public record for anyone to see

  • @geoffneal9146
    @geoffneal9146 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You lost me at Andrew Little being one of the best Health Ministers. The system fell apart and costs blew up under his watch.

    • @stevesmith1923
      @stevesmith1923 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too many old people and too many fat people.

    • @barrynichols2846
      @barrynichols2846 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're dreadfully misinformed

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Costs blew up under his watch - as we were warned it was going to do by the reserve bank due to Key's loans, and his government's choice to get rid of NZ's pharmacy labs and testing labs, and global inflation. Andrew clearly wasn't the cause of the reforms which gutted the supporting medical industry in NZ and DID hold Health together after the mess was dumped at his feet. It was stupid of us to let our labs (which massively cut down the time and costs) go to aussie just because Key said it would be cheaper. It was cheaper for sure, but our health system paid for it

    • @stevesmith1923
      @stevesmith1923 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tanepukenga1421 Dumb comment! Our medical system is failing because their are too many old people,fat people, alcoholics, violent people, and druggies. And not enough doctors and not enough smart motivated people who want to become one.

  • @JimmyKip
    @JimmyKip 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Boot camps" and "14 layers of management" are political slogans for messaging, I find it hard to believe that it was something Reti told Luxon, vs something Luxon's political advisors cottoned onto as a neat messaging trick.

  • @krismacdonald7397
    @krismacdonald7397 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Winston is longest serving member

  • @krismacdonald7397
    @krismacdonald7397 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reti is out of his depth.

    • @Myke...
      @Myke... 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he kinda wasnt around for questioning when the smoke laws changed

  • @trinityyay
    @trinityyay 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The lowest paid dental officer, not a specialist, is paid $142.000 a year. Also paying people fair wage, paid by tax of people that arnt on a fair wage, doesn't sound fair to me! Is underfunding the issue? Or overpaid staff the issue?A dental officer being paid $142,000 a year, imagine what a manager of one of the many departments is paid!?😊 these are tax payer funded services. Yes its great hospital staff then get an extra 7% of their wages to be on call, but maybe seriously looking at the wages of these higher ups and seeing how many and what they get paid may answer the funding allocations and why we dont see outcomes for patients

  • @trinityyay
    @trinityyay 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They may not be novices, but i bet they earned a truck load in wages

  • @poerava
    @poerava 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who owns newsroom?

    • @raf4992
      @raf4992 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Someone who's losing a shitload of money because no one is watching this crap anymore 😂

    • @endrepepella2399
      @endrepepella2399 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mouthpiece of Labour party!

    • @hilbridanongoogle4465
      @hilbridanongoogle4465 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@raf4992 Well, you seem to be.

  • @shaneshawwilliams4512
    @shaneshawwilliams4512 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The outgoing directors of Te Whatu Ora / Health NZ : Chair of the medical council Dr Curtus Walker ; Vanessa Stallart who was the GM of Air NZ and Naomi Ferguson who ran Inland Revenue for 10 years are taking PM Christopher Luxon on for lying and misleading the public by characterising the board as incompetent and dismissing them just to cut costs for National's tax cut policy

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gerry is excellent!

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Māori Party is a Race Based Political Party. The Māori Party want a divided society and they don’t want Democracy, they want special privileges and rights over the rest I.e. Pakeha. No Med School for Waikato! This would be stupid. I wouldn’t let a Grad from Waikato Med School Near me. Stick to doing you PhD in Dairy Cows and Musket Wars. And then these turkies are considering setting up a 3rd Medical school based in Hamilton? This is Stupidity……The U of A and the U of O have been training our Doctors the 1800’s in the case of Otago and Auckland since 1960. Both the U of A and the U of O already have all the structure, expertise etc to Train more Doctors……it would be a nonsense to build another Med School. The U of O has campasi in Dunedin, Invercargill, Christchurch, Wellington etc etc. They could easily set one up in Hamilton!

  • @Quentin-br5kl
    @Quentin-br5kl 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sticker on Hana's laptop was a Toitu Te Tiriti sticker that the Act party member asked the speaker to be removed, and then Dave Seymour turned Karen when the speaker enforced the terms they(Act) asked for about Hana's sticker, to their little ACT broaches to remove them and they had cry baby tantrum refusing to remove them . Self-righteous pride

  • @TahanaWhite
    @TahanaWhite 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BRICS,BRICS,BRICS

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BRICS or the US dollar?

  • @neillewis785
    @neillewis785 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    more experts with their expert opinions....ha ha ha more clowns trying to undermine the coalition....where were you little sheep when jizzinda stuffed the country?gfw

  • @barbarathomas2561
    @barbarathomas2561 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bravo! - good podcast. Thanks so much 🙂

  • @JohnCornilius
    @JohnCornilius 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bet Gerry doesn’t want to get into a battle of what is and isn’t a pin

  • @johnoverington2978
    @johnoverington2978 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vaccine?

    • @tracymichaelsen493
      @tracymichaelsen493 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The WHO are going to push digital records as well as other info incuding vaccines compliance passports onto phones. They are implementing it into 5 countries now. Greece and Germany being the main 2. England will push it through in September Nz will follow like sheep and here we go with round 2. Masks, can't buy or sell anything or go anywhere without proof you are vaccinated. Nz has billions of vaccines waiting to roll out. You of coarse can so no . And very quickly become jobless, homeless and dead. You do have a choice. I'm choosing the sentence. No.

  • @SpecialKVintage
    @SpecialKVintage 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks team. Good line "The govt ministers start to think it's the media versus them. That is not what's going on there, they are speaking to New Zealanders through the media". Great explanation. The public DOES want to know, and we can spot a lie and lose trust pretty pretty pretty pretty quickly...

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The first one, yeah. The second... Kiwi's did vote in National and ACT. Anyone who looked at the budgets could see their ideas weren't based in reality and could only result in borrowing to carry out. A lot of new zealanders fell for their promises even though the media told them straight up what was most likely to happen

    • @SpecialKVintage
      @SpecialKVintage วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tanepukenga1421 True dat. You got me there. 🙃

  • @user-bg8cw8sp7w
    @user-bg8cw8sp7w 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh people..I too am ashamed.. At how stupid and weak willed you all are....new zealand owes nothing to maori. Weve been inundated with this partial, heavily edited historical narrative for so long now..that its being seen as fact....ITS NOT. Celtic peoples were here Long, long before polynesians.

  • @Nicole.1828
    @Nicole.1828 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I cannot trust this government anymore, they are not prepared to be honest with us. The cuts are leading to predictable outcomes that they are determined to deny.

  • @DrakeBuilders
    @DrakeBuilders 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    China can never set up shop in the Islands excl Fiji... All the islanders are based here, not in Beijing...

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They already have been. More than one polynesian nation has entered into agreements with them, trading immigration and loans for infrastructure. It's the same way Dole got Hawaii for the states, just with concrete and plastic goods instead of crops.

  • @numnum5
    @numnum5 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haha FINALLY! someone called out you don't need a doc or medical profession to run the DHB. Because they are not qualified to be in charge, just to help run hospitals by using their qualifion..

    • @saxdearing3395
      @saxdearing3395 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You seem to know little about the inherent role conflict that pervades the health sector, or the inefficiency of budget accounting practices. The problems all started when the Labour Government around 1980 hired a grocer to redesign hospital management. A Mr Gillies if my memory serves me well and whom was later knighted, and who proposed the notion that Dr's weren't managers. The debacle that followed over the next three decades saw over 20 reiterations of DHB's and the proliferation of middle manager's that would surprise rabbits. Hospitals, are not for profit organizations with an inherent tripartite structure. If you think that makes for easy management you are dreaming.😂

    • @numnum5
      @numnum5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @saxdearing3395 totally get what your saying but the same thing is happening right now with current management, and they are all medical professions. But bigger problem it's not evolving with the time. Tech/systems update was the biggest problem. There needs to be some turnover in staff for fresh ideas, If you put a doctor, they would never leave or quit management(so no new ideas) because it would look like loosing a doctor to the hospital when it's actually just a manager.

    • @numnum5
      @numnum5 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@saxdearing3395 also costs less to hire a qualified manager than a doctor.

  • @miriadavis799
    @miriadavis799 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good points raised by Tim Murphy

  • @donnaleeheads907
    @donnaleeheads907 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about hats ??

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trump❤

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everyone knows money floats around the top and doesn’t go to where its needed

    • @DrakeBuilders
      @DrakeBuilders 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As proven since the 1980s

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Time for A I doctors because the human ones only work 3days a week

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trump❤

  • @Sm868
    @Sm868 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best political analysis as always. Thanks team

  • @W_Bin
    @W_Bin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks-good backgrounder.

  • @csaw200
    @csaw200 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't care about Winnie Shoehorning Jacinda into power in 2017. Just let him be the PM already.

  • @lilianabracanov239
    @lilianabracanov239 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to practice family law, one of my long standing clients whose children had been severely abused(inc sodomy) in a whangarei care home (the Polynesian male jailed for 14.5 years for multiple abuses on several children) The children hd been telling the Social workers but were ignored; when the abuse reached critical level CYFS dumped the children into the parents care with no knowledge, explanation nor support. The behaviours of the children were escalating resulting in burning the house down. I was told the older daughter traumatic bonding Stockholm Syndrome of 'loving' her abuser and traumatising her younger brother who hd experienced vile sexual in the same paedophile's care home. The girl left her home and the mother concentrated on her son who flourished under her care excelling at school & sport. at onset puberty the boy began to act out inappropriately. I remember attending FGC, with whanau, police, community agencies and CYFs to make care plans and deal with the offending. I was astounded that the obvious solution of the boy return to high school was not even on the table. Rather he ws to do an intensive keeping safe programme and stay in care facility. The boy did return to highschool where he did well. Release was tried back to his mother, however hanging with others in his peer group resulted in aggravated crimes. The boy returned to care for more rehabilitation. During this time, her mokkpuna had come into her care due to violence in their mother's home, consequently the eldest boy was severly abused by the boyfriend requiring hospitalisation. I worked with the mother and she recorded every interaction with police, and social workers. We examined the evidence and knew that abuse was going on in the care home the 3 children were in, as the then 5 Yr old girl was telling her grandmother on the weekly video contact sessions. SW was informed multiple times but she never followed up. We liased with school and bought it to there attention that the young girl was being racially bullied and abused by an older child in residence (the school dropped that info to us that the boy still lived in the care home) The children were also been locked in bedrooms, and forced to call the caregivers Aunties. Eventually, the young girl had a bowl thrown at her head causing serious injury (SW stopped contact until the bruises subsided also refused to show the photos of injury to Whanau) The lawyer for child was appalling, the SW reports on their observations of the Whanau at the meetings with medical doctors, police etc were full of personsal Bias. As the Whanau attended meetings, to hear about the circumstances and horrific injuries they didn't not according to SW display enough tears so they concluded they were callous ( is one line couldn't believe that the only displaying any emotion was the partner of the grandmother and the SW writing the report) The lawyer for child was likening the injuries to the kahui twins and it's reports to the court which was extreme speculation lawyer for children's reports I'd never seen such opinion and speculation opinion and speculation for someone who never even saw the children) in fact the day that they decided keep the children in state care they did not disclose to the court that the assault had happened. on the young girl. By then the grandmother had much experience in dealing with abuse, also she'd done her own rehabilitation and education on the effects and impacts of abuse. We had a very good client /lawyer relationship. We gathered all evidence particularly in recorded conversations and she made a complaint to the Ombudsman who flew up to see us to discuss the matter. I expressed further concerns to to do with the use of te reo by the social worker of non Kiwi culture in the use of the term Whanau Hui, in the reluctance to associate with the independent support agency who had questioned their intention. This resulted in the uplift of the young girl who had been living with her grandmother very happily and safely for a year arrangement between mother and grandmother to keep the child safe. The social worker said they would have a hui and naturally the the whanau was called to attend by the grandmother is the social worker was not clear in her intention to just have an immediate family meeting when they arrived and saw the whanau they got scared and then decided to uplift the child. Upon my instruction advise you to leave the home with the child and that they would have to get warrants which they did and they basically lied to the court resulting in uplift warrants. I immediately went into filing for applications to circumvent including the evidence that we had been collecting however due to the incompetence of the staff at the Manukau Court they blocked my application from proceeding because they realised that that this was going to be a serious issue. Likewise when I rang to enquire if any orders had been made due to the incorrect spelling of the names in the system the the actual application made by the department could not be located so we believed no order had been made. The lawyer for child in this case was a huge problem with eventually OT after the ombudsman's attempting to return the children to the grandmother's care however lawyer for child circumvented that with his Fantastical imagination of The Horrors of the injuries even though the child had made a 'miraculous recovery' The grandmother notified police prior to abuse occurring that this was going to happen, The social workers informed did nothing. The suspended worker that assaulted the child e was charged, prosecuted and sentenced but still the little girl had to remain in the home she had been abused. The children are now back in the care of their grandmother in doing very well.

  • @ericharvey3493
    @ericharvey3493 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Halo effect? Haha yea right

  • @ericharvey3493
    @ericharvey3493 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aotearoa? Where's that

  • @ericharvey3493
    @ericharvey3493 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Winston is the man

  • @John-ee5dh
    @John-ee5dh 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know they are lieing they are using hand gestures to distract you