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To each his own! I wanted a bit more pop from the bike to make it easier to throw the front wheel up when hopping obstacles. Its a cheap enough bike that its my play bike that I don't feel bad about tinkering with and throwing down when working on bigger and badder obstacles before attempting with my big boy bike I don't wanna break.

For front and rear it was about 900-1000. Made all the difference in the world.

I can't speak to a comparison since I haven't used both, but based on Bruce's recs (he is a suspension god) for my height / weight I would need the longer springs. The upgrades made a world of difference.... I have a beta 300rr as well and depending on what I am riding I prefer my 250f... with the suspension upgrade it does anything enduro-y minus the massive hills and its such a play bike you can throw around not have to worry about breaking.

It's very possible Honda engineers designed it like this for reasons other than performance. Noise regs, emissions, cost, etc.

cars and motorcycles are highly restricted due to regulations, making modifications for more air and less restriction on exhaust plus a tune = better performance and more horsepower.

Agreed.most people spend too much time on modifying their bikes rather than riding and learning.

Stock is boring. Folks have been doing modifications for years. Its a cheap bike meant to tinker and play with.

@@Garagehype199 I started riding back in 2004, and no matter how good a bike was stock, pretty much everyone would customize it with mods to make it their own. Seems like this new generation doesn't have as much interest in doing mods. That makes me wonder what the aftermarket will look like down the road. Fewer people doing mods, less companies offering mods.

You should be able to adjust everything you need just off the two nuts

It does everything I ask it to and requires less than half the maintenance of other bikes. I keep up with the huskies and KTMs on the hills and technical stuff we ride. 0 complaints so far.

I bought it in a bundle from Bruce triplet... But I believe it's around 600$

Love to see a video on it 👍

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I plan on it! Wanna get a few more rides in before I talk about it. Preliminarily though... It definitely stiffens the bike up and I haven't bottomed out yet

You're right you can't just clean the air filter 👍

​@@Garagehype199You can, but how many times before it disintegrates like every other filter ever made?

Everyone likes it a little differently that's for sure. The bike is a lot stiffer, but I haven't bottomed out yet!

Bruh I went hard af and got a custom race tech shock and paid over a grand and that piece of shit couldn’t last 2 laps on my local track and the stock shock handled it better…. Bbr springs is all you need for this bike and it will be a monster all that after market shit is absolute trash!

@@chrisvillarreal2752 🤔

you need to tell bruce.....he will make it right usually for free, just pay shipping

Rode it for the first time yesterday. It gives the bike a lot more pop at the bottom end and is definitely helpful on the hills. Before I might have had to shift down midway through longer hills... This mod seemed to take care of that problem. I didn't use any kind of tuner and was happy with the results, but a tuner may be in the near future.

I know this is a month old, but having more power after the modification tells me you leaned out the mixture beyond what Honda initially intended for the bike to run with. By how much, it's uncertain... There is an easy way to check if you are running TOO lean without pulling the plug (though reading the plug would be best). Simply get the bike up to near redline with some speed in 4th/5th gear and SNAP the throttle shut while coasting, this will force engine braking. A proper mixture, whether fuel injected or carbureted, WILL NOT have ANY popping on engine braking. This is known as a lean-pop or decel-popping. Also pull the baffle/spark arrestor out of the exhaust when doing this test as that arrestor is designed to counteract any decel pop to not start wildfires, put it back in when done testing. These bikes are designed to pass California RIGEROUS emissions bullshit, so my guess is that you made it too lean. Gaining power is typically a side effect from leaning a mixture, is allows the atomization of gas to react quicker and to get a fuller burn, but it makes the top end run WAY hotter as a result, eventually leading to pre-detonation and melted pistons. @@Garagehype199

@@akustaka thank you for the insight! I'll test this out when I get a chance.

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Let us know the results if you think it runs too lean because I’m really considering this mod. Maybe a ecu tuner would fix it if it is too lean

100% if I was riding hard enough I could bottom out sitting into a corner 🤣

Thanks, I was very reluctant to use a chisel as Bruce had suggested... But it worked like a charm. I have no idea how a dealer would get those bolts off without damaging them. They were very soft/cheap... even without heating them up they were slipping.

@@Garagehype199 If I cross this bridge, I may try a hammer drill to break it free... and new crush washers. Another video suggests "all the bolts are too tight from the factory" on the 250F... they advised touching all the bolts on the bike when it's new to prevent the down the road headaches... perhaps the factory uses hammer drills to assemble the bike.

@@thetruthserum2816 let me know how it works. Bruce said using the same crush washers would be fine, and it worked out. No leaks. But they're cheap enough to be worth not having a headache and have to put a project on hold.

Xpac?

BMX?

Very sus

Swing arm protectors, currently editing that video / install

The plastic plate feels plenty study and is a bit lighter than having a metal one. It also covers the linkage arm which I wasn't able to find on the metal ones I viewed.