Ajahn Pavaro is the 'number two' monk at Anandagiri Forest Monastery. Here he is interviewed by the monk who trained him in his early monastic years, Ajahn Sona, abbot of Birken Forest Monastery in Canada. Ajahn articulately describes how his deepening practice and insights led him from his married life, working as a university lecturer, to the life of a full time celibate contemplative.