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@@simonbadcock5522 Nice They are all good boards Screamer versus explosion - screamer better in more wind and will handle more chop and blown out conditions. The explosion would be the one if it was marginal and you want maximum speed on all points of sail including upwind plus that bit more sail carrying capacity due to the extra volume. The echo is modelled more on the screamer than the explosion, very 'freeride' rather than race style. I had a second gereration echo with the scooped deck, lovely loose and agile board considering the volume and it has a good turn of speed. I didn't get the use as I use my longboards a lot and at the point that they are planing can then go straight to a 120L ish board without needing the bigger volume of something like the echo. But for a first short board or a light wind option (with no longboard) the echo is great. With the echo, the quite wide squash tail and progressive rocker line are quite visible and it planes early and gybes well for such and old board. Both the screamer and echo are lively and responsive and make you want to throw them around a bit in the corners, see how tight they will turn. The explosion has that quite thoroughbred locked in slalom board racing feel, quite hard on the ankles when rattling over the chop, but the one where you can really scare yourself with the top end speed. Hope that helps!

@@andysworldofoldschoolwindsurf Thank you so much for the context ...I feel like this needs to be 'stickied' somehow but I really appreciate the comparison. I'd love them all (an Energizer especially) but sounds like the Explosion might suit a more blasting vs carving agenda and keep the Screamer for the crazy days (although I've heard my Malibu S is meant to be pretty fun when it's honking). I'll have to keep my eyes open as I've seen plent of Gen 1 Explosions (very forward mast track doesn't balance as well with modern sails?) and the later model Explosions (CGI) when they moved the straps inboard similar to the Echo and ditched the adjustable mast track, but people clearly hold onto these Gen 2's ;-)

@@simonbadcock5522 Thanks The Mk1 explosion is really good. The track should be okay with modern-ish sails although you would find you are using the rear half of the track more than the front. On the Mk1, it has a very dedicated slalom board feel and it's a great board for straight line blasting. It is also practical enough as some of the racing boards of the era had very low rocker and really needed the conditions 'just so' otherwise the disadvantages of the handling really outweigh any speed benefits of the faster shape - where the explosion is a good all rounder for what it is. I know exactly what you mean re the Malibu. They have great potential as a blaster in moderate winds. I always liked having access to the dagger board on it to help with getting upwind and to help tracking if the wind drops - but someone showed me an example where they had actually filled in the dagger board slot and used the Malibu with a slalom blade fin, really to turn it into a 'speed machine' - it certainly worked well.

@@datschist yes, near the back as the track is quite far forward on these old boards. I do move it forward 1 notch from the back for the biggest sail size 7.5m otherwise the tail of the board sinks!

@@andysworldofoldschoolwindsurf Thanks for the answer. Sailed my Rabbit this season with 6.4m2 always on a medium track position. Next time i will try to move the mast more backwards ;-)

@@flamingskoda bargain! Love it 😊😊

I never see these boards in the States. I wish I did... Cool Cats.

Agree. The Bic are great looking boards for the era. I like the Fanatic aztec graphics too!

Very distinctive board!

We get a good test of that around here as there are some really good foil sailors. They get going quicker than I do. Even when I cannot get railing with the dagger board down, they can be fully lit up. Mind you, these are very good foil sailors on the right gear. They are using big sails and not on the 'casual' stuff! Nevertheless these old longboards are great and you have to remember it all balances as the foil guys have quite a 'slog' on their hands until they find enough wind!

Nice. If you are UK based, boardwise in Cannock would be able to help

So this version of the board had the 'fin box' type mast fitting where any deckplate/ screw down type mast fitting can go on there. I believe some versions had the 'pin type' fitting where the uj attached via a pin to a sliding mast track carriage - if you have this and need a new mast base you can find a wider 'chinook nut' that will enable a standard base to fit, though you do end up with a fixed mast base position and can't then slide the track whilst sailing. Realise that is a lot to try to describe when TH-cam comments only let us share text. If unsure please send me some photos on what you have to walters1979andy@gmail.com. Best Andy

@@andysworldofoldschoolwindsurf My bad! Actually the part I need is just the 'trim adaptor' (due to broken pulleys)for my old rumba. But I'm not sure which one to buy,is this part standard (EU pin) across all boards? Thx u very much for your reply.

@@paolomh113 by trim adapter I think you mean the mast extension - the bit you thread the rope into to downhaul. Most of those are standard to euro base and would make it obvious if they were not. Decathlon may still sell them. Appreciate we could be crossing threads as it is hard to describe some of this stuff. If I have missed something use the email address in my first message and send a photo of what you have and I can send you a few web links etc for potential parts!

I remember the Astro rock! Great board in many ways. Agree I think where Bic sat in the lineup was good value but quite low performance and of course they were heavy boards. This Rumba board was good in its time for early forays into planing but needed a lot of encouragement to get it going and hard to stay close to the wind without the dagger board once it was lit up.

It's a very light and stiff slalom board. Goes over the chop well but hard on the ankles and quite an extreme and uncompromising ride in many ways. Amazing fun but not the easiest going board out there. Still quite fast for such an old board (probably about 1993 era)

Many thanks blaspelegrin4060. Happy sailing and tight harness lines!

Yes, it was really light, much less at some points and you'd question whether worth trying, but some good runs nevertheless. Another guy out on the foil and he was doing really well. Quite amazing that with barely enough wind for me to heel the board over into railing from the beating straps, he was lit up and flying. Big investment in kit obviously but very impressive!

Lemmie and everyone else eclipsed lame Paul - especially the too-subversive to be famous lead actors - all infinitely more talented than the likes of DeNiro, 'Dame' Judi Dench etc that our anti-rebellious establishment media wants us to hero-worship... Paul G

Everyone overshadowed lame feeble McCartney - especially all of the poor p!ssed-off dangerous revolutionaries..

100%- I shall do a video of the board by itself one day- the rear of the board at the footstrap is about the length of my foot- and I am not a big guy- which makes foot placement in the gybes kind of interesting. That narrow width does give that feeling of bottomless acceleration though, and I really like that. The board also really forces me to try and sail it well, it is not easy going at all!

100%- I have had a few of the Sputnik boards and none of them are 'half-measures'- fast, fast boards and really quite hair-raising once they are lit up and approaching warp speed, usually with me still trying to get my feet into the footstraps properly!

Nice- you have a very good board then. I do keep an eye out as I am always interested in boards of this era and the price is often very good. I do like the uncompromising speed and acceleration of this board- it is me that holds it back rather than the board holding me back, and that is a good feeling!

It was not too overpowered when filming but afterwards it started to get pretty crazy, mega crashes. I think you have found the right way by gluing the boom grip. What I have is 'functional' but as you can see it has twisted itself around and is not as smooth as it could be. I think the material has 'un-shrunk' with time as it is a lot looser than when I heat-gunned it on there. A good experiment though as the boom itself had very little grip left in the places where you actually need it!