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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2020
Sports cards and sports talk for the real collector
Garbage Pail Kids? Gross! Gen X Rules! 1986 Series 5 Topps Chrome GBK Brings Back Tons Of Memories
A fun nostalgia rip! Sometimes ripping wax is just about having fun. This is certainly one of those boxes. Come check it out. #1980s #garbagepailkids #hobby
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Mystery Case Hit! Jayden Daniels? Caleb Williams? I Want To Know! 2024 Score Football
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Hit a case hit mystery redemption in 2024 Score Football. There are 6 mystery cards and 6 big QBs in the draft. Coincidence? #nfl #hobby #bighit
Is this the new junk wax era? $29 a box and I overpaid!
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Some more cheap boxes and they’re cheap for good reason. I missed hitting anything with long pack odds. Spent $60 for two boxes and came away with $3 worth of cards. The new junk wax era?
No hits in Hit Parade! Shame on you, Dave & Adams! What a rip off! Nice gesture ends predictably
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Matt, let me start by saying how much I appreciate the thoughtful gift. I really do. My hatred and vitriol is entirely directed toward the criminals who produce this product. I have nothing but sympathy for the general public who buy it. Unless you are a big name in the hobby, you have no shot at the "chasers" Dave and Adams shamelessly promote as being in the product. It's sad, but completely ...
1:146,081 Packs! Let’s Go! Boom! 2024 Topps Chrome Monster!
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Pulled a super rare card for $4! Nuts! #hobby #mlb #lucky
Caleb Williams /50! Loaded box of 2023 Goodwin Champions! Oddball wax always seems to pay off
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Ripping a box of 2023 Goodwin Champions I bought last weekend at the Fanatic’s show. Insanely good box for $90. #nfl #hobby #money
Crazy Hot Box! Two Golds And A Black! 2021/22 Topps Finest UEFA Champions League
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Got lucky with a cheap soccer rip. A black /25 and two golds /50! Crazy. #championsleague #hobby #sportscards
PSA Reveal! Big $ Cards. Raw vs Graded. Gold Jokic Auto, Griffey PMG, and More. Did I win or lose?
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Second half of the PSA reveal from a few weeks ago. More big cards. Some good grades, some bad. #hobby #sportscards #mlbb Check out my eBay store: www.ebay.com/str/bdpsportscards?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=szc7_j5mr_6&sssrc=3418065&ssuid=szc7_j5mr_6&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Goooaaaallll!! We hit a banger! Christian Pulisic Gold Auto! 2022 Select Premier League Soccer
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Ripping 2022 Select Soccer! Had luck in the past with soccer boxes and this didn't disappoint. #soccer #hobby #premierleague
PSA Reveal! Lots of $ on the line. Stroud Checkerboard, Elly Rainbow, and more. Did I make money?
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First PSA submission in a long time. Come check out how I did. Is it worth grading your cards with PSA? #hobby #sportscards #mlbb #nfl
Pokemon! Pokemon! Pokemon! Lots of cool stuff and I think pulled a rare Japanese Full Art Charizard!
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A buddy of mine sent my son Jack a box full of Pokemon cards, packs, boxes, and slabs. We opened everything, mispronounced a lot of names, and had a lot of fun. #pokemon #charizard #rare #hobby
Lawrence Butler and Zack Gelof Rookie Autos in box of Topps Series 2! Oakland As box
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Lawrence Butler and Zack Gelof Rookie Autos in box of Topps Series 2! Oakland As box
Little Big League! Great cheap rip for kids. Max Fried /25 and a bunch of other fun stuff.
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Little Big League! Great cheap rip for kids. Max Fried /25 and a bunch of other fun stuff.
2023 Select FOTL Rookie Purple /5! Is it Victor Wembanyama? It’d be nice to hit the lottery.
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2023 Select FOTL Rookie Purple /5! Is it Victor Wembanyama? It’d be nice to hit the lottery.
Wembanyama hunt is on! 2023 Select Basketball with Jackson. How many Wemby’s did we find?
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Wembanyama hunt is on! 2023 Select Basketball with Jackson. How many Wemby’s did we find?
Finally found the cards I've been looking for! Tua Rookie PSA 10, 2012 Prizm Rookie QB, and Bam RPA!
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Finally found the cards I've been looking for! Tua Rookie PSA 10, 2012 Prizm Rookie QB, and Bam RPA!
We’re still going. Topps Elly De La Cruz Rainbow, Tribute Rookie Auto, and more...Mail Day Part 6
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We’re still going. Topps Elly De La Cruz Rainbow, Tribute Rookie Auto, and more...Mail Day Part 6
Darth Vader Manga! Topps Chrome Star Wars
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Darth Vader Manga! Topps Chrome Star Wars
Mail Day Part 5? HOF Select Patch Auto /5, Inception Rookie Autos, and a lot more revealed
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Mail Day Part 5? HOF Select Patch Auto /5, Inception Rookie Autos, and a lot more revealed
Mail Day Part 3! Big cards still to come. 1/1, PSA slabs, RPAs, and lots more revealed
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Mail Day Part 3! Big cards still to come. 1/1, PSA slabs, RPAs, and lots more revealed
Mail Day Part 2! Picked up right where we left off. What came out next? Salas 1st auto /99 and more
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Mail Day Part 2! Picked up right where we left off. What came out next? Salas 1st auto /99 and more
Epic mail day! Spent thousands of dollars on Whatnot! Did I actually make money? Rip and reveal PSA
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Epic mail day! Spent thousands of dollars on Whatnot! Did I actually make money? Rip and reveal PSA
Wemby Hunt! Yes it’s a Panini product, but I didn’t buy it. I swear! 2023-24 Prizm Basketball
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Wemby Hunt! Yes it’s a Panini product, but I didn’t buy it. I swear! 2023-24 Prizm Basketball
Hunting for Jordan, Kobe, Iverson, and more! Fun closet find. Late 90s Upper Deck Basketball Packs.
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Hunting for Jordan, Kobe, Iverson, and more! Fun closet find. Late 90s Upper Deck Basketball Packs.
High ceiling!! 2023 Prizm NFL Sparkle Pack…Was it worth swapping an old redemption for this?
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High ceiling!! 2023 Prizm NFL Sparkle Pack…Was it worth swapping an old redemption for this?
CJ Stroud Checkerboard!!! Absolute Monster! 2023 Prizm Football
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CJ Stroud Checkerboard!!! Absolute Monster! 2023 Prizm Football
It’s Magic! Vampires, Spells, and Darkness. I need your help on this one. Did I pull anything good?
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It’s Magic! Vampires, Spells, and Darkness. I need your help on this one. Did I pull anything good?
Uncorrected Error!?! The worst! What the hell is going on at Panini? Still can't find the auto
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Uncorrected Error!?! The worst! What the hell is going on at Panini? Still can't find the auto
Where's the autograph? Ripped UFC Pink Laser packs and pulled an auto with no auto. C'mon Panini!
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Where's the autograph? Ripped UFC Pink Laser packs and pulled an auto with no auto. C'mon Panini!
I GOT ROBBED BY PANINI! WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER! STORY TIME
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I GOT ROBBED BY PANINI! WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER! STORY TIME
Fun rip bud 👍 Goodluck in the next one!
Thanks!
Who can forget these ridiculous characters?!
Yup. Pretty memorable.
This is cool!
Thanks! I’ve checked your channel out. Really cool stuff, too!
@@bdpsportscards109 aw thanks
Cabbage patch kids, cool 😎
Very funny!
Good stuff bud 👍 fun rip. Thanks for sharing. New sub 👊 Have a good weekend!
Thanks for checking it out. Appreciate the support!
happy for you🥰
Thank you!
Hey, I just received the full 92-93 Fleer Ultra II, 35 sets are sealed and one set is open, do u think I can sell it?? TIA
In my experience, you can sell anything. Only question is what someone’s willing to pay. Sports cards from that era, save a few notable exceptions, don’t have any real value. In perfect condition, the Shaq rookie and the Jordans can fetch a pretty penny, but outside of that…Good luck!
The Rice is 126 I believe for breaking Jim Brown's td record. I pulled one at a card show 30 years ago!! 🎉🎉 Great video!
Very cool! This is why I love ripping older wax. It brings back so many good memories.
Nice rip thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
Caleb Williams has no cards in the set my guy.
Even better. That works for me. Thought I saw his name in the checklist but happy to hear I’m wrong. Not a big fan.
I did a little research and it looks like that’s one of the reasons Panini introduced this mystery rookie set. Williams signed his deal too late to be included in the earlier football sets so Panini can make and distribute his cards along with 5 other prominent rookies of their choice at the end of the season. Still not a Caleb Williams fan but that’s the scoop. If you look, they did the same thing with Puka last year in a few sets once he had his breakout. Apparently, it was spurred on by Brock Purdy’s success as a 7th rounder and Panini not having any cards of his in the majority of their 2022 product. They didn’t want to miss out on that kind of $ ever again.
You did great, Jackie!
Are the prices of this product a secret?
If memory serves, I picked the box up for around $275. Can probably find it for a little over $300, now.
I pulled a autograph pitcher but he was a nobody from a blaster box. 😂😂😂
That’s the worst! Get lucky enough to hit an auto out of a blaster, and it’s worthless. I’ve been there.
Man I was about to buy a couple of these boxes cause I noticed they were so cheap. Think I might hold off after watching this lol.
Probably wise. Any time I go into a product like this, it’s solely for entertainment purposes. If I hit something of value it’s a bonus, but as the market continues to soften, it gets harder and harder. Thanks for tuning in!
That trout is nice
Yeah. Poor guy. Hopefully he can stay healthy and play a full season next year.
How come breakers always start the video when the pack is already open?
Breakers often do it because they’ve set the pack to look like they’ve hit something big in order to get clicks. You’re watching a short of the actual opening that’s just about that card being pulled. If you’d like to see the entire box ripped, start to finish, check out the full video on my channel. Also please consider subscribing if you haven’t already. Appreciate you tuning in.
Those bastards
That’s what I’m saying! Drives me crazy. Damn the man!
I haven't, because of this knowledge... I WON'T enjoy one 😂
Makes sense
Hey buddy, wanted to inquire about the Orange Victor Scott
Hey. Yeah. What did you have in mind?
I can send the pictures on eBay, but would you be open to a SGC 10 2014 Bowman Blue Wave Mookie + a 2023 Bowman WBC Bobby Witt Orange Ref /25?
That might work. Yeah. Send some pics. Thanks.
@@bdpsportscards109I sent em over big dawg
Nice cards. Where are you, geographically?
$110 on eBay
$125 raw. Hard grades. In a 10 it’s more. But for ROI…$4 for $100+ card; I’ll take it.
@@bdpsportscards109 hell yeah great return. For how rare those are they don’t sell very high. I see Jason Dominguez at $200
@@bdpsportscards109 oh wait that’s for the base card not the #/5. That card is huge I just realized it was numbered lol
@beliedat2457 yeah. They should be more. Dominguez at $200 is a good buy. Think he’s going to be the real deal.
I think that williams is a good card
I think you’re right.
I agree
@FunnyFamilySkitsDJB Thanks for tuning in!
Is there an award for being your 50th subscriber?? love the video gna pick up couple boxes for the series 2
Ha. Nothing for 50. Sorry. Appreciate you tuning in, though. Ripping wax from those years brings back so many great memories. I love doing it. Let me know how it goes.
Love that dark cap Matty with the partial double name. Gorgeous Cobb as well!
Thanks! Appreciate you checking out the channel.
Woah! This card is so cool!
Thanks! Appreciate you tuning in.
This is so slayyy
Thanks!!!
Nooo not him!
Might have to get used to it
Thats a cool haaland
Thanks!
Slab values are 100% based on demand and has nothing to do with supply. I have a cj stroud teal gem 10 with a pop of 5 that I cant give away. Downtowns have pop of 75 and sell for $5/6000 😂
Downtowns are super hot because every breaker in the known universe is artificially pumping them up. Yes. Demand drives pricing, in any market, but supply usually has a lot to do with that metric, as well. Supply and demand are inextricably linked, but not an exact science
@@bdpsportscards109 the teal have an actual print run of 35 😂 way more rare. Hell orange scope are printed twice as much as the teal. No idea why the teal get no love. Ultimate short print card of optic. It’s the rarest pull from megas
@@bdpsportscards109 I offered it for $1000 on eBay and couldn’t sell it lol. Pop of 5 print run of 35. Makes no sense to me. I’d rather have pulled his downtown lol
@beliedat2457 It’s a strange phenomenon, but happens every year. Certain sets/inserts don’t get the love they deserve. You’re right. It should be more valued and sought after. Hard to explain.
Yup. Crazy to say but…
Love the checkerboard….always enjoy your videos
Thanks, Betty!!!
That is a MONSTER brotha! That your pull?
Yup. Topps Chrome has been pretty good to me
The conspiracy theories got annoying
Sorry you didn’t enjoy it. For the record, they’re not theories. I may not be one of the big players in the collecting world but I know a lot of them well. Some are friends. They’ve confirmed how PSA operate and that the process is anything but unbiased.
That was a solid box
Yeah. No complaints. I’ve had good luck with Select soccer over the years. I’ve been trying to avoid Panini products of late but this box was marked way down and I couldn’t resist. Glad I picked it up. Thanks for tuning in.
I like your commentary when you open stuff, just watched the 93 fleer opening too. Good perspective and some good thoughts on players, helps me (new to the older stuff, but have been picking up collections to sell - get acquainted) Even this box, I don't really like baseball much but learning about some players through this is cool!
Thank you! Glad you like the content. Appreciate the positive feedback.
Cracking a PSA 8 slab to resell raw to someone and not disclosing that seems beyond sleazy...
It’s not about keeping something a secret. This PSA grader gave the card an 8, the next might give it a 9 or a 10 or a 2 (I’ve seen it) What’s the difference between selling the card raw before or after it’s been in a slab? It happens every day in our hobby. Many of the raw cards up for sale or auction have gotten grades collectors were unhappy with/didn’t agree with, which were then cracked and listed. I’m sure I’ve purchased many cards that had been in slabs, previously. I always follow eBay’s rules and am fully transparent anytime I’m asked a question. I get where you’re coming from but grades on cards are opinions, not facts. We’ve all cracked and resubmitted subpar grades and gotten 10s in the past. It happens all the time. That Stroud may very well be a 10. Remember, PSA hired hundreds (if not thousands) of new graders a few years ago. Some are good, some are not. They barely trained them before sending them into action. Grading cards was never an exact science; now it’s a complete crap shoot.
500 Subs, Congratulations! I was name 182... 😪 Congratulations to the winner !
Thanks, brother! Sorry you didn’t win.
I just pulled a CJ Stroud Optic teal velocity from a mega box. I’ve been selling raw cards on eBay for 5 years now. I’ve never messed with a graded card in my life. I looked it over and cleaned it up. It’s headed to PSA next week. None have been graded yet and I’m pretty sure the print run is super low for the teal. Like /25 or /35
Also could you explain what an up charge is? Thanks!
I believe they’re /35 but I’m not certain. Panini messes with the colors of the velocity from sport to sport and it’s hard to keep them straight. I deal almost exclusively in raw cards these days when it comes to modern but there are times, like with your Stroud, that getting cards graded still makes sense.
@beliedat2457 Sure. What PSA does is ask you to select a value when submitting for “insurance” purposes, so if the card gets lost in transit or damaged during the grading process (happens but rarely) you’ve already set the replacement value. There’s no arguing. So, what most collectors do is submit at the lowest grading level and wait to see what PSA does. PSA charges a grading fee based on the value of the card, not solely the service they provide. Essentially, they take a percentage of your cards value in order to grade it. For instance, if you get a $5000 card graded, PSA charges you more than if you get a $500 card graded. Yes, before you ask, they are the only grading company that behaves this way. It is a very shady business practice but it’s baked into the cake because SGC and Beckett simply don’t have the market share to challenge PSA or force them to change their ways. In my sub, I sent all the cards in with an assumed valuation under $300. A lot of those cards raw or in a PSA slab exceed that value but I’m never going to do PSA’s dirty work for them and agree to pay more than I have to, up front, to grade the cards. You can usually get away with it if your cards are sub 1K but once they cross that threshold or if PSA needs an infusion of capital, they’ll hit you with an up charge. So, I paid $14 to grade that CJ Stroud Checkerboard. As soon as the grading team assigned it a 10, they flagged it and I was sent an email. The email informed me that the card required a grading fee of $74, not $14, and I needed to approve the change before they could proceed. That’s an up charge. Grading cards can get expensive if you’re grading big cards and they get good grades. I once got a $450 up charge to grade a Mahomes rookie auto that I submitted in the 2nd tier. It got a 10 and they hit me with the up charge. It’s unscrupulous but brilliant, if you think about it. They give no extra service, simply charge more money. But, in the end, you’re happy to get that email because it means the value of the card you submitted just went up significantly. I know this was a long answer. Hope that explains it.
@@bdpsportscards109perfectly! And thanks for taking the time to respond.
@beliedat2457 Anytime
I did pull last year a yellow Justin Crawford auto #/75 from target.
Out of a what kind of box? That’s a nice pull! Especially out of anything retail. Congrats!
They are nice cards anyway. Wish I would pull a checkerboard let alone a downtown.
Appreciate it. The 2nd half of that sub has some fun stuff in it as well. Thanks for watching!
Did you have trouble finding optic nfl 2023 in your area
@johndepoley3724 Yeah. That stuff has been really hot. Downtown value has exploded recently.
I've got a lot of great rookie cards and sp rookie cards of strouds wembys Richardson's and so on. I collect them. I don't get em graded. I collect. You can't go by just their rookie season you gotta wait till they have a long career to value their cards. You sell a year after their rookie season over hype you lose in the long run.
I hear ya. Collecting cards is different for everyone. I grade modern cards often times to sell them and capitalize on the hot new rookie or player of that moment. I’m a vintage collector at heart. Thats what I hold onto. That’s my passion.
Calm down with the conspiracy theories. The Rice has a back bottom white corner you can see with the naked eye.
It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s reality. I’m not saying the Rice should’ve gotten a 10. It’s not a 10. An 8 is a fair grade for that card. What I’m saying is that you and I have no chance of ever getting a 10 on a card like that. Even if it were perfect, it would take an act of God to make that happen. If you don’t think PSA artificially controls the pop counts of older wax, you’re kidding yourself. They’ll throw some bones to the segment of the hobby that have a financial stake in PSA and they’ll do it sparingly to boost sales when they need an infusion of capital, but if you think graders have autonomy and that the quality of the card is the primary factor in the grade it receives, then you’re not paying attention. That’s not a conspiracy theory, that’s the game as it’s set up. How many 86 Jordan’s have gotten 10s in the last 4 years? You think that’s because all the packs of 86 Fleer opened in that time were inferior to the ones opened in the 40 years that proceeded it or do you think PSA made a business decision when card values exploded and competition increased to keep the pop count on that iconic card low to keep the value high? There are a thousand examples like that across the hobby.
@@bdpsportscards109 Checkerboard Stroud was very lucky to Gem. So you win some and lose some. Grading is subjective. I only send cards that will gem and they still mint some but at 70% Gem rate I can’t complain.
@Teabagonyou At 70%, you’re doing very well! You have a good eye.
Came to say the same thing lol. Stroud should be a 9 with that corner too
@@StrongCards88 well off centered as well. I will take wins on my biggest cards even if some smaller ones don’t Gem.
The upcharge on new cards gets me upset 😡 I understand insurance and whatever but process they do to valuable card is same as they do to $1 card
I agree. It can be infuriating and it’s a shakedown, for sure, but part of the game if you grade with PSA. The PSA slab still adds so much value, when compared to SGC or BGS, that everyone just swallows it. Doesn’t make it right, but as long as the hobby treats their product that way, they can keep doing it.
How do you enter the jersey giveaway?
Follow the link below: Autographed NFL Jersey Giveaway! PSA/Beckett Certified. Free to enter! Subscribe and Win! th-cam.com/video/lMy32y-Gg-k/w-d-xo.html
Saw a break on whatnot last night first time on the app and dudes were paying 450 to 900 bucks for repack cards some dude paid 2000 bucks for like 5 teams and hit nothing tons of gimmicks going on i didn't even know what i was watching.
Whatnot is crazy platform. Virtually no regulation or oversight and it used to be worse! There are deals to be found on the app but you have to be very discriminating and wary of any breaks with repacks. I’ve had success hanging around and getting into things in smaller rooms with less activity. I’ll also try and be on the app at off times on less popular days. A Wednesday morning around 10am, for instance. Not much going on but some cheap breaks with potential. As for the kind of repack breaks you’re describing…they are a nightmare. The repacks are always loaded with cards no where near the value the spots sell for and those streams prey on problem gamblers and folks with money to burn. They can be entertaining, at times, but more often than not it gets sad watching people buy spot after spot and struggle to stop.
@bdpsportscards109 yeah that's what I was thinking I doubt I will participate unless like you Said I find a low cost high value break, i dont like breaks tho learnedmy lesson few years ago. Thanks
Great pull the charizard ❤❤
Thanks! We both kind of thought so but I don’t know Pokémon well enough to be certain of anything. Looked it up after we finished filming and found out what it was.
Kidssss!
Yup. Great product for kids to rip.
Wow you really didnt see that second auto, did you?!
Completely missed it
That Card is a Beauty <3
Barry was "not allowed" to score in side the 5 because he was not a short yardage back. Any back not trusted by coaches in some situations is not the goat. Regarding your claim that Smith did not break tackles by linemen or linebackers. You are just mistaken. Consider the second half of the second Superbowl. Bruce Smith and Daryl Talley both had him dead to rights in the backfield in that drive. Smith still turned that game around when the Cowboys fed him the ball in like 7 out of eight plays. Cowboys were either tied or losing until that drive. Yes, there were times he ran through big holes, that is true if just about every back, including Sanders. In that Superbowl drive Talley plugged the hole and Smith blew by him in the same hole and pick up positive yards. Buffalo defended it perfectly in terms of positions. The hole was plugged. But Smith still went through it. This is speculation, but speculation based on years of loving to watch Smith and Sanders, but I do not think Sanders runs that play the same way. I think Sanders bounces it out of the hole and either has a big run or gets dropped in the backfield. That is the strength and weakness of Sanders. He will gamble to go for more and sometimes it does not pay off. In a game when your currency is downs, that can put your team in bad situations. You keep mentioning Jim Brown. Jim Brown played behind 3 Hall of Fame lineman, two more than Smith and yet you did not once mention how great Jim Brown's line was. It seems that there is a little bias here.
Yes. Jim Brown ran behind hall of fame lineman, but Brown had as much a hand in them being hall of famers as they did. Jim Brown was a much better football player than Emmitt Smith and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who’d take Smith over Brown in their backfield. As to your point about Emmitt breaking tackles and making plays in that Super Bowl or in the regular season…yes Emmitt was a very good running back. A great running back. In the history of Football, there’s an argument that he’s a top 10 back of all time. I don’t subscribe to that argument and he’s lower for me, but I’m not saying he was an average player. He was great. What he wasn’t was close to the greater of all time. He should not be in that conversation and far too often, is. He’s Chris Carter, not Jerry Rice. That’s not bad, but if Carter had been a Cowboy and won 3 super bowls as the #1 receiver (which he would’ve been) Cowboy’s fans would be talking about him in the same conversation with Rice, Fitzgerald, Moss, but those of us who saw those guys play know he wasn’t that. That’s what I’m saying about Emmitt. He played a really long time. He was durable and that’s not nothing, but he’s only looked at the way he is because of the top line stats and that’s not how you judge a ball player, in any sport.
As you mention Rice, why is he not disqualified in his accomplishments and labeled a stat stacker because of his longevity or because he played with two hall of fame quarterbacks and a very successful Niners organization. You throw out Rice's name like it is a given, and I agree with you, but Rice is subject to the same criticism as Smith and yet you throw his name out as if it is a given that he is great but not Smith. Rice played for 21 seasons with two hall of fame quarterbacks 3 Superbowl wins several playoff births, 4 conference finals. Why is Smiths accomplishments diminished by longevity, team success, and team talent, while Rice is just assumed Goat?
@@bdpsportscards109regarding Chris Carter analogy: Smith did not just play for super bowl winning teams. He was THE major factor in the success of those team. That original line with Aikman and Irving went 1-15 before Smith came. The cowboys with their line, Aikman, Irving, Novichek, were 1-6 without Smith. Their line, Aikman, Irving, Novichek were struggling to stay in the one Superbowl until they fed the Rock to Smith. The only lineman with any pomp before playing with Smith was Larry Allen, and Smith had two Superbowls and three rushing titles before Allen came. There are few multiseason succesfull teams who relied so heavily for their success on one running back.
Forgive me. But I disagree with several of your points. First, Curtis Martin had less catch percentage and less catches than Smith. Smith's receptions puts him at like 152ish all-time receptions, a stat dominated by receivers. His catch percentage, I believe is over 80 percent. Second, ypc is situational. It does not consider downs, distance, goal lines, competition, or importance of the game. Smith's ypc is affected by longevity and short yardage situations. If you remove all his runs inside the five yard line, his ypc goes up. Compare to Sanders. His ypc is barely affected. Barry was taken out of a lot of short yardage situations. 3rd, when you say Smith played behind a dominant offensive line, I have to ask which line? He played for 15 seasons on two teams. There are several different lines in that time. He had three rushing titles before Larry Allen came into the NFL behind one or two undrafted free agents with years of play and no accomplishments, even having the worst record in NFL history 1-15. Smith's numbers in his last few season on losing Cowboy teams were as good as Elliot's first four seasons and Elliot outperformed his peers in those years. The talent loaded Cowboys were 1-6 without Smith in the lineup. While Deteoit was 4-3 without Sanders and Sanders' two backups put up 100 yard games. I believe Smith is underrated. Goat? Debatable. But still underrated.
Appreciate the response. Allow me to address your points one by one. My issue with Smith as a receiver isn’t that he doesn’t match up favorably with wide receivers, it’s that he’s 13th all time in receptions among running backs (soon to be 15th as Kamara and McCaffrey are less than 10 catches away from passing him), despite playing way more games than almost everyone else on the list. He’s behind the likes of Matt Forte and Ronnie Harmon. Furthermore, a catch percentage over 80% is not an accomplishment when the great majority of the targets are within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage, which his were. In fact, anything less would indicate a receiver with a hands of stone. His YPC average isn’t a product of goal line carries. I’ll let you look up how many carries in his career happened inside the 5 yard line and what percentage of his total carries they represent. I’ll give you hint, it’s a very small number. Barry was taken out of the game in short yardage situations but that didn’t boost his YPC, it simply resulted in Barry having fewer touchdowns. I addressed the longevity/compiler argument by looking at Emmitt’s YPC by season as well as his career. In his prime, at his best, in his best seasons he could barely hold a candle to most of the backs I listed, certainly the ones at the top of all time list like Sanders and Brown. I won’t even have the line argument. To suggest that the Cowboys line of the dynasty years in the early 90s, behind which he gained most of his yards and scored the bulk of his touchdowns, wasn’t one of the three greatest offensive lines in professional football history is just silly. Yes, he won one SB without Larry Allen. Look at who else was already on that team leading up to 1994. Look, I’m not saying Emmitt wasn’t a great running back. He was. But to suggest he’s in the discussion for best of all time, as many Cowboy fans and someone like yourself seem to be suggesting, is crazy. The numbers don’t back it up and anyone who watched him play knows he simply wasn’t that guy.
@@bdpsportscards109I agree with much of what you responded. I do think 80+ percentage means something. I think it is indicative of the kind of back Smith was. Dropped passes, loss of yards carries are losses of downs. Losses of downs puts the team in a difficult situation. Losing downs puts decreases your teams chance of success. Gaining a few yards consistently is better FOR THE TEAM than inconsistent boom runs. The claim that you make that Brown made his line can be said with demonstrable evidence of Emmitt Smith and his line. That is what Nate Newton claimed if Smith. For his first three rushing titles, he had two undrafted guys with no all pros. One lineman was cut from the redskins. again, with the length of his career, there were a lot of different lineman. He just happened to be behind the beat line for 15 years. I do not buy it. Many of Smith's original line where in the league for years and never went to a probowl or all pro until Smith. This is demonstrable. Additionally, if Smith's line made him great rather than the other way around then why did Smith so out perform his backups while Sanders backups outperformed him. "Anyone can run behind that line" is demonstrably false, we saw that scenario. We saw the scenario of others running Behind Barry's line. It is demonstrably. I did do the work looking at ypc removing goal line runs from both Smith and Sanders, my conclusions are demonstrable in that. Smith's was still like 2 tenths behind Sanders, but that does not include other in game short yardage situations. The play by play stats back then are not as thorough as they are now. There are great scat/open field backs like Sanders. According to Sanders, he tried to run like a rabbit. Sometimes you need that. Sometimes you need a bus like Bettis. Smith is neither as illusive as Sanders nor as powerful as Bettis, but he was a really nice blend of the two styles that made him an every down, every situation back. Another point about Smith is his post season production. Regarding durability and performance, he had the equivalent of an all pro season in post season performance. He generally performed better in big games. That testifies to a players greatness. The claim that many of his stats were in situations that did not matter is not entirely true. The giants game at the end of the 93 season was a big game, and Smith played big regardless of what extent one believes he was hurt. The Superbowl I mentioned, the cowboys rarely have the ball to him in the first half and it looked like the bills were going to win just as they did in the regular season when Smith was out. But the second half of that game was different from the first half and the earlier game in one way - not the line, not Aikman, not Irvin - Emmitt Smith. That is greatness. For me greatness is not about the best in this one dimension or that dimension. Greatness is not blowing up yards in a climate control dome in a week division. Greatness is being one of the best all round backs, good in the most situations, who plays big in big games. That is Smith. There are others as well. I know this is unpopular opinion, and I glued in whenever Sanders' played, but I do not think Sanders is all that great. A couple of years I even had him on my fantasy league. His running style was difficult to block for, Lomas Brown testifies to this. Dancing backs are hard to block for, you have to hold blocks longer and anticipate changes in the direction of the play. I believe, as fun as he was to watch, Sanders style was a liability for the success of his team. The success of his team and his backups while he was out demonstrates this conclusions. He also underperformed in the playoffs. I may be mistaken but I think there was a year when the Lions beat the Cowboys in regular season game and playoffs, clearly being the better team, yet Sanders underperformed in that playoff game. If I wanted a highlight reel, I would pick Sanders any day. However, If I wanted to build a winning NFL team, I would take even Bettis before Sanders. Please don't hate me. I love Sanders, but i want someone who spends the currency of downs and consistently has something to show for it. I want a back the line can be encouraged to know that when they put on the block he will fall forward. Sorry for the long rant on probably what seems like craziness. I get it.
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