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Scott Taylor (TayloredSteam)
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2012
OIL BURNER HEATING TECHNICAL CHANNEL
I would like to share my 30 plus years experience in the heating and air-conditioning trade.
These videos are intended as "help training videos" for the advanced heating technician .
I assume you know basic knowledge of electricity, hydronics, oil burner and combustion properties, and basic knowledge of heating controls.
If you want to learn technical information on oil heating and controls, this channel is for you.
I would like to share my 30 plus years experience in the heating and air-conditioning trade.
These videos are intended as "help training videos" for the advanced heating technician .
I assume you know basic knowledge of electricity, hydronics, oil burner and combustion properties, and basic knowledge of heating controls.
If you want to learn technical information on oil heating and controls, this channel is for you.
Anode rod change out. This is why you change these things.
Replacing an anode rod in a water heater.
Look how bad it is in just 3 years with city water.
Look how bad it is in just 3 years with city water.
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Replacing a Gas Vent Damper & Burner Service
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Replacement of a Field gas vent damper GVD-6 that was not opening and in turn not letting the burner fire resulting in a no heat call. While I was there I cleaned and inspected the burners and ignition system.
Help! We Keep Loosing Our Hot Water
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Oil Fired Water Heater Keeps Shutting Down. New customer and first time there. I have to start with the basics and move on from there.
Smoke Testing a Furnace Heat Exchanger & Co Testing
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The company she called said it was unsafe and turned off her furnace in the middle of winter leaving her with no heat and tried to sell her a new Furness. Then she called me for a second opinion. Watch as I check the heat exchanger using a Co detector and smoke candles, and then get the thing running like new.
Gas burner will not turn off even with no thermostat wires connected!
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Burner keeps running with no wires attached! I Replace expansion tank, trouble shoot electrical problem, rebuild water feeder and do burner cleaning.
No Heat all winter until they called me
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No heat in a commercial construction company office. New customer , got them up and running in no time.
Repairing water leaks on a tankless coil piping
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Complete removal and repair of leaking water piping on a Burnham V8 tankless coil.
Taco 571 Zone Valve Explained
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How the Taco 571 Zone Valve Explained & How to Wire
Oil Vent Damper Wiring & Overview
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Fields Controls OVD oil vent damper How does it work and how to wire one
Low Water, No Pilot, No Heat
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New customer just purchased house. He had no heat on the second floor. Burner was running yesterday but no pilot today. Customer turned off electrical and gas then called me.
Steam Boiler Controls Maintenance and Replacement
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Installation of a Hydrolevel VXT24 water feeder on a steam boiler. Removal and cleaning of Hydrolevel 400 low water cutoff. Cleaning of boiler and check for correct operation.
Full Service on a Trianco Boiler with a Riello Burner
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Full service on a Trianco oil boiler with a Riello burner. Change nozzle, clean fuel strainer, replace fuel filter, vacuum boiler and adjust burner.
Burner Starting and Stopping on shutdown..
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Replacing primary control and cleaning out the circulator on a steam boiler.
How To test a cad cell and the primary control on an oil burner.
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How To test a cad cell and the primary control on an oil burner.
Question. Could the plunger end up stuck open?
I have an oil pump that leaks. Is this normal for a pump only a couple of years old? I can't see where the leak comes from, there's only a drop per day or so.
Thx for the video - it was perfectly explained.
Thanks
So where I’m lost is if you have a 40va transformer feeding thermostat and R 24 v to terminal 1 and terminal 2 is common. 3 is apart of TT but that diagram looks like TT and the 40 VA transformer cross. I thought that would be like crossing two transformers then?
Those wires are after the load so it doesn’t effect the voltage. Its similar to connecting all the white wires (common wires) together in your house wiring together. USA 120 volt AC.
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Buena noche soy de Guatemala qué puedo hacer tengo una bomba suntec E4NCK 10698 p Me trabaja 3 minutos con aceite pesado luego se apaga por que la llama es inestable y e regulado la precion de la bomba lla Prue en 100 psi y en 50 psi. Y no mejora la función. Que puedo hacer el quemador es un ecoflam 50. L temperatura del precalentamiento la trabajo a 100;!°C. Que puedo hcer
I popped in to see if I could manually open the valve to test if it were bad. You end the video with "I hope this helped." it did. Super informative and I learned a lot. Love the expanding wax liner drive. That is slick.
New sub here. Great video! I knew it needed to be changed, but always thought it would be a PIA to get out. Are the rods specific to the heater or are they universal per size?
Most are universal but not all. Check the specks for your unit.
Thank you !
You should have left the cold water on while flushing. At least for a few minutes. And I didn't see you shut power off. Lousy video dude.
Well thanks for your comment but if you would’ve paid a little more attention you would’ve seen the switch on the wall in the off position. Unfortunately when editing it the two second shot of me flipping the switch off was edited out. This is part of a series of training videos I do for licensed technicians not necessarily homeowners. I’m assuming that a licensed technician would know how to turn off the power to the heater so I don’t spend much time explaining things like that. Also if you would’ve noticed at the end of the video just before I walked outside you saw me open up the cold water valve by pressing the button on the control. That opens the electrical valve to let the water start flowing. Also if you listen you can hear the water start flowing. Thank you for your concern, and your right make sure everything is turned off.
I've flushed mine several times in its 12 years of service but didn't know about the anode rod till recently. It may be too late but I'm changing it anyways.
I don’t know if I missed it but definitely important to shut electric off so you don’t burn out elements especially in you drain too much good video 👍🏻
Yes that was edited out by mistake
Good video sir.
Thank you
So is 3 years the recommended replacement schedule for these then? Is it the same for natural gas units?
I recommend checking the rod after one year in use. It most likely will not need to be replaced but it will give you a better idea of how long you have until it will need replacing. It makes no difference of what kind of heater you may have oil,gas, or electric because it is the water that acts on the rod to dissolve it. The factors would be how bad is your water and how much fresh water is introduced into the tank. I have seen an 1 1/4” rod totally dissolved in one year on well water. This rod in the video was in contact with treated city water for 3 years. Not all water heaters have them but most do. Water heaters with a 10 year warranty most likely will have two rods.
Been my experience Scott's suggestion checking new tank anode at one year is spot on. Rate of anode depletion depends on local water chemistry, how many holidays (pinholes) in tank's glass lining, etc. I've seen tanks where anode rod didn't last three years, and would suggest going with impressed current (aka powered) anode in such cases, rather than the traditional sacrificial anode rods. House I'm in now, I check every three years, but have been on same rod for 9 years now and spare rod just gathers dust so far. Would also suggest removing anode rod with impact wrench; it's just much easier/faster and no worries about tank moving while applying torque. Whether removed by impact wrench or by hand like Scott did, only drain enough water so water doesn't leak out when anode is removed. You'll want most of the water left in tank for the inertia stability the weight of almost full tank will provide.
Thank you so much! I switched out an oil boiler with a propane combi. After the switch over one of the zone was barely heating. After watching your video I figured the valve head was twisted a bit and seated it properly. Now I have heat in all zones. Great Video! Thank you again!!!
Don't you mean glycerin filled gauges
Nice video and troubleshooting! I'm hoping you can help with an issue. I have an old but well maintained Hallmark oil fired furnace that's going into lockout or tripping. Sometimes it runs a couple days other times it will only last a few hours before tripping. I have replaced the oil filter that had some sludge on it, then replaced the screen/strainer in the Suntech A2VA-7116...it was very clean but replaced anyway. It is a single line, above ground gravity system...it doesn't have a solenoid for oil shutoff. I also replaced the cad, the nozzle, and electrodes (set up properly as well as Z setting). I installed an oil pressure gauge in the gauge port. I checked the limit switch that was extremely clean and seems to be working as it should. The pressure reads 140psi. The motor turns freely but doesn't free spin so I think coupler is good. I have been unable to get it to do it while watching it go through its cycle. When I press the reset it fires right up with no puff back & flame looks great. I checked the ignition transformer and it throwing an arc at least an inch...very strong looking. I have noticed that it seems to do it when temps low but it doesn't seem to be any water in the oil that would be freezing. Do you have any suggestions? The chamber looks very clean and I replaced those parts because they were due to be changed & because of the lockout issue. I'm kinda at a loss. Thanks in advance for any help.
Thank you for your response to my video. As far as your situation goes it could be a number of things but I will have you check the most common that I have found would cause a problem. First you must understand that an intermittent problem can be very difficult to diagnose. You really need to catch it in the act to be certain of the situation or possible problem. How old is the system? Being a Hallmark I’m assuming at least 20 years old since they have not manufactured those furnaces in 15 years or so. I am also assuming this is a replacement furnace not the original but probably the oil tank is the original. Am I correct? disconnect the oil line at the burner and put it into a container then open up the oil tank valve. See if you have flow through the oil line. I’m thinking possibly the oil line or oil tank is plugged with sludge. That would explain while it’s colder or at night when it runs longer that’s when the problem arises because you’re trying to pull more oil. also the ignition transformer is it a steel transformer or a electronic igniter? The old transformers had a tendency to spark OK when they work but then would not spark at all intermittently. If you have a steel transformer on your burner I would replace it to a new igniter. One of the possible cause would be too much air to the burner. You really need to use test gauges to set it up properly. If you do not have access to that, adjust the burner to the manufactures specs in the instruction manual based upon the nozzle size.
@scotttaylor3049 thank you so much for replying back. HVAC can be challenging. I was an industrial electronical/mechanical tech for almost 30yrs, even so, I run into things I don't understand or never worked on. Never been afraid to ask for advice though...lol. What you mentioned does make total sense. It has the huge steel brick transformer and its a 2001 model that was put in 2007. It's my dad's and he really kept it up from the looks of things. I will do as you suggested...maybe flush the line out and if it still acts up will order a new igniter. I know he installed a smart thermostat but hates it. I told him to go back to his programmable Honeywell that has the "auto" function. I don't think that would have anything to do with it but anything is possible. I installed a Cor smart thermostat and after a week I went back to my honeywell. As far as test equipment for a furnace, I don't have anything. I did see the settings listed in manual for air/fuel mixture at 140psi with .75gph nozzle. Again, I appreciate it and will let ya know if this works....I know how intermittent problems can be or were in the industrial field!!..lol. thanks
@scotttaylor3049 Hi again. I did as you suggested and opened the line where it connects to nozzle gun, then opened valve at tank...I had a very good & actually fast gravity flow....almost over flowed my container before my help could turn the valve off...lol. It was in the 30's as well. I basically setup shop at the furnace and finally caught it tripping out. The furnace called for heat and I heard a click after the thermostat delay for start-up but the motor did not start and had a slight hum and I didn't hear the igniter either. Motor & igniter are tied to same secondary wire. I tried again and it started up but later it did the same thing with no motor or igniter start...I had test leads connected to honeywell controller secondary and was only getting like 9vac instead of 120v, quickly switched to primary and I did have the correct input voltage. Later it did the same thing and I tapped the controller with a screwdriver handle and it started up instead of tripping. It seems to be the controller (Honeywell R8184 G) or at least looks like it to me?? I think it has gotten worse too. Let me know what you think. If you think its the controller as well , is there a controller that you recommend that may help if we have issues with the furnace in the future. Like a controller with at least LED indicating lights or a display. Thanks in advance.
@@dgmenace73 😄👍 Congratulations I believe you have found your problem. The internal relays on those old controls wear out overtime. The hinge mechanism will wear and cause the contacts to not pull in properly. I would replace it with the same control if you can find it it will be much easier to install. Some of the new controllers have displays but that is really not necessary and can be difficult to wire if you’re not sure how to do it. I believe if you replace that controller you will be fine.
@scotttaylor3049 thanks...Yeah, I got one on order now. Its crazy how things like a furnace seem to go out at the worst times. I can honestly say that when we installed that Hallmark oil furnace back in 2007, I was a little weary of it but it has proved me wrong. It may be where it was maintained but to be oil fired, and to be 17yrs old, it has done very well. He said it costs him aprx $65-$100/m (depending on oil prices) for 8m a year to heat his house. A budget plan with his oil company. I just found out that he purchased it from a college where it was used for training purposes so it wasn't exactly new when it was installed. I read about the new controllers and asked him if he wanted me to just run a new power wire to keep it powered on he said he was ok with that but when I mentioned programming it, he decided to go back with what he was used to....lol. I do believe this was the issue. I really appreciate your responses & help. Have a good one!
Excellent description what I have been noticing with a valve head I’m working on, same exact model. The actuator lever is very difficult to move even with 24 V at the valve. I had to kind of force it into the manual position to get heat. I will be replacing the valve head, I’m under the impression when the valve is energized, and the actuator drives the piston, the lever should move freely indicating the valve is fully opened. Unless I’m mistaken?
The lever should move freely when the valve is open. If it doesn’t move freely then the valve body is sticking or the lever itself has an issue.
This was a great video with the A2VA-7116 pump. I am somewhat new to troubleshooting these pumps. I am a little confused about the vacuum and testing a pump. On the A2VA-7116 single line set, 3/8" with no electronic solenoid. With a gauge connected, 3450 rpm. With a dual pressure/vacuum gauge connected I read 135psi with a .75gph nozzle and the thermostat reaches temp, shuts pump off....will the gauge go to zero or hold a vacuum? I am just confused if that 10psi you mentioned means that it has to have 10psi of vacuum to basically open the valve then once the pumps shuts off and there is no vacuum, the internal valve closes to prevent free flow? Hopefully this makes sense. I took the cover off before I ever watched this and just a little oil leaked out then stopped. I do know that inside the tube where the nozzle screws in, there seems to be a check valve, I can hear it when I invert to burner tube. Thanks in after for any further information.
The pressure and vacuum will drop to zero when the burner turns off. The fuel cut off valve which allows the fuel to flow to the nozzle line opens and closes on centrifugal force. The pump needs to get up to speed to open. When testing the cut off valve, the pressure should not drop lower than 10 psi. With the burner running. Please watch my video to explain how to test the cut off valve. Example: If your pump is set to 135 psi. Then when testing the fuel cut off it shouldn’t drop no more than 10 psi. to 125 psi. with the burner running.
@scotttaylor3049 it may have an issue then. It does have one of those insufficient check valves inside the oil tube at nozzle adapter....no electronic solenoid which you probably already know. With the gauge in the gauge port the pressure doesn't drop when running and when it shuts off, that gauge reads zero. Then jumps up to the 125 at startup. I will try to locate the video about checking the shut-off. Thanks
You are literally just reading whats on the screen. Smh
this is such a weird comment, criticizing a video that youre not obligated to watch. someone took the time out of their day to inform and help others who may be in need. you literally offered nothing of value.
I thought they were supposed to run at 100 psi?
Years ago US burners did run at 100 psi. and everything was based on that. Around 20 years ago or so manufacturers started increasing the pressure to 120. This helped atomize the oil better especially cold fuel. This led to 140 and 150 psi. The finer the oil for combustion, (atomization) the better it ignites and cleaner it burns.
can one replace A2VA-7116 with delay valve with a clean cut pump PF20322
Yes
thank you@@scotttaylor3049
good video! thank you !
Made my own manifold gauges in about 15 minutes. good thing you got it for free. The price is ridiculous.💰💰💰💰💰👀
This is the first of your videos I found. Very thorough and useful information. Well-presented also. I have one regret. Upon looking at your video collection, I see there isn’t a lot of stuff there. I’d love to see you, teach the entire operation/maintenance/troubleshooting of an oil burner like this. Thank you for the effort.
Best explanation ever😊
Difference model
Than, you for "Date code" location. Afraid to look at mine. Might be from the 1800's.
THANK YOU> You are the BEST describer of things. LOVE this video.
Is there no need to clean the spot out of the bottom portion? How would you access that? I have a trianco boiler with a Beckett unit, with no access panels. Only from the top like in your video. Thanks
The only access to the combustion chamber is by removing the burner. This seldom needs to be done because of the extreme heat in the chamber. You may always have some debris in there. The flame should burn in suspension and not impinge on anything. If that is the case, let it go, it will be fine. If the chamber does need to be vacuumed out, let it cool down and be very carful not to damage the soft fiber chamber.
To run the motor for purging the pump, leave the control box off and jump 5 and 6. Assuming they're wired the same way as here in Ireland.
If the power head isn’t fully flush to the base, in other words the pins aren’t fully in will it not work?? Was not getting heat on second floor and noticed the he power head has a gap between the head and base. Pin wasn’t fully in the hole so took off and put on fully. Now have heat, could it have been that simple?
Possibly, the powerhead has a plunger that pushes into the valve body to open the valve. If the head is not anchored, it will just push the head away instead of opening the valve. If you have heat, that was obviously the problem sometimes though the heads, will loosen and unhook themselves, I know that sounds strange, but it does happen. if it happens again, you will have to replace the powerhead.
Is there pressure when you take the oil burner gauge off your oil
Thanks for the question. Technically yes but since you cannot compress oil one drop coming out will drop the pressure to zero. Since there’s nothing behind the oil to push it out like compressed air or gas it will not spray out at you.
@@scotttaylor3049 thank you
Thank you for the information.
IF THE LEVER MOVES FREELY NO RESISTANCE???
Normally if the lever moves freely then the thermostat is calling and the zone valve is open. You can test this by putting a voltmeter on terminal one and two and you should read 24 V. Or turn down your thermostat and after a few minutes check to see if the lever only goes about halfway and then you feel resistance, then you know the valve is closed. It is possible the zone valve body is stuck open. it would be extremely rare but it could happen.
@@scotttaylor3049 valve body stuck in the open position sprayed some w40 hit with hammer and started working thank you
If you open the valve manually by pushing it to the left against the resistance . Can you then turn it off my moving it back to the right?
@@Fireneedsair yes as long as the thermostat is not calling
if pressure drops when off, other than nozzle drip, does it affect the pump? in other words, can it still be used? i ask because my pump slowly lose pressure when off but fires up as it should when it comes on. i also have not seen any negative side affects from drip, it runs clean. i might buy another pump just to have on hand, but i wont change it unless its needed.
How are you reading the pressure drop? Where are you connecting you gauge?
@@scotttaylor3049 connect gauge in place of gun. also shouldnt pressure drop help eliminate nozzle drip? i can see it relieving pressure threw the nozzle but if its going back threw the pump i would think drip wouldnt be an issue. nozzle drip is not of concern anyway, i just want to know if pressure drop is a sign the pump is dying or will it be ok? as mentioned pressure comes right back as it should when turned on.
This is the best explanation of how these burners/pumps work I have found to date. 7/23/23
This is a great video, but I still am puzzled by the topic you are covering at about 10:25 My question is, if the OSV needs a slight suction from the pump to permit flow, then why is there not such a / (another) device immediately at the tank outlet, so that any rupture of the pipe beyond the tank is protected by this upstream OSV, thereby stopping the tank contents from emptying onto the ground? I realize that the OSV near the boiler is there to detect heat and shut off the flow when needs be, but is there any reason why something similar couldn't be right up close to the tank. EDIT - (I have in the last few minutes found this comment referring to where an engineer should install an OSV, besides just as you have explained) "he should install a second OSV on the same oil supply line at the outlet from the oil tank, particularly if the oil tank outlet piping exits at the tank bottom, and ahead of the oil filter" Do you see any downside to doing this, and if not, I wonder why it isn't common practice, or even mandatory?
Thanks for your comment. I’m in Connecticut and Connecticut State Code requires a thermal safety valve at the burner and at the oil tank but it only works on temperature if there’s a fire it will melt and shut the oil off. Connecticut code for many years now requires a vinyl coated oil line in case it does leak that way it will not leak into the ground. I’ve never seen one just rupture since it’s not under any pressure but overtime some do corrode through even though it is copper. it is still extremely rare. The majority of oil tanks in Connecticut are in the basement.
www.supplyhouse.com/Suntec-PRV-38-3-8-Oil-Safety-Valve-9944000-p This is what you are looking for
@@scotttaylor3049 Brilliant. Thanks
Do vacuum test on just water heater line?😊
Hope there isn't Teflon on firen Matic At pump did you say compression fitting hope not
So is the circulated water 220 degrees ?
Not quite just under boiling. Because you’re circulating cold water return through a coil it’s not in there long enough to reach its boiling point. It runs approximately 195 to 200. Because it’s under 20 pounds pressure that also raises the boiling temperature. Water boils at 212° at sea level since it’s under approximately 20 pounds pressure that Raises the boiling point to approximately 228°F.
I've seen many nozzles bad from the manufacturer or go bad quickly due to defects, I would have changed the nozzle just to rule it out. But I bet it is that 2 pipe system pulling too much oil. They run at like 25 gallons per hour on two pipe. I'd either convert it over to a tiger loop, or use a relay to put hot water on priority and cut the boiler off during a call for hot water. Great video!
The filter was loose and I found out it had been serviced the week prior. I don’t believe they got all the air out of the lines and with the filter being loose it just sucked air. Not being a two pipe it would not prime and go into lock out. They had no problem with the boiler because it is a two pipe and would prime. If it happens again, I will just add a return line to the water heater. It’s an older couple with not much money and that will work just fine. Your correct about the nozzles. I have had bad nozzles out of the box but this was definitely a air problem so I was pretty confident. Time will tell. Thanks for watching and your comment.
@@scotttaylor3049 I've found with those filter, there is a fine line between them still sucking in air (even if they don't leak) and the bolt on the bottom breaking loose. I prefer the bigger b4 filters
My furnace is reading 999999ohms and it has 10 error codes all about cad cell. I check the cad and the igniter. I jump the Tt and now it won’t turn on even if I reset it did I make it worse ?
Hi sorry to hear that. Do you get a flame?
I knew a 60 degree wasn't right as soon as you pulled it out. I have seen some techs use 60s instead instead of 45s on L heads. But beckett are generally 80s or 70s sometimes.
Yes, this was a F head, definitely an 80. What gets me is they scratched out the nozzle size on the rating label and wrote in there own! Thanks for watching 😀
38 years and never replaced electrodes?? I did oil from 1973 until 2006. I’ll have to admit, we didn’t have any of these burners with one piece electrodes, but on Lennox, Becket, Ray, Wayne, etc. I always replaced electrodes every service It’s just not worth having a delayed ignition . It’s nice to see an old timer who does a complete oil service. I used to get Wayne tune up kits, and replace everything, nozzle, buss bars, pump couplers, filters, strainers, etc. I charged 4 hours, and did two a day. Was using the old Bacharach combustion testing equipment back then, with the manual smoke pump and hour glass CO2 testers.
That is true on the burners you mentioned but I was referring to Riello burners when I said that. They run on DC voltage and just never seem to wear. Thanks for listening and commenting. I got into the trade in 1985.
About 5 years ago the igniter in my Lennox furnace failed. I drove a few blocks away to a parts supplier and bought a new one for about $40 and installed it myself. Worked great until last month. Found out the place closed down and it was really cold and a weekend so I had to call my local HVAC guys. Got charged almost $400 to replace the igniter, but they did clean the furnace and checked everything out. I'll be buying a spare igniter, just in case this happens again.
Thanks for sharing. Good job, sir.
Get yourself a Milwaukee pump...😁
Everything else I have is Milwaukee when this thing dies I probably will. I just don’t use it very often and this one works great. 🙂
@Scott Taylor .... ya those are strong. You seem to be doing well. Keep up the good work my friend...
@@Dji.lookfromabove Thanks Chris good to hear from you
First time watching good tutorial
Thank you and keep watching, don’t forget to subscribe👍
Thanks for the videos
Thank you, I want to check out your channel as well.