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@@joeyowen1740 that’s actually great feedback. I’ve been testing and wondering how long the propane would last. Good to know it won’t need to be replaced for awhile.

@@michaelm7980 What’s stopping you? There are all different levels. I saw a kid shot a PRS match with a stock hunting rifle. He did pretty good and had fun.

@@R1j0hn I get what you’re saying-on paper, a 1-10x30mm sounds like it would offer better light transmission. But I wonder if March sticks with 24mm because their glass and coatings are so good that they don’t need the extra objective size. A bigger lens would add weight and change mounting height, so maybe they’re prioritizing compactness without sacrificing performance. Have you compared a March 1-10x24 against a larger-objective LPVO to see if there’s a noticeable difference?

@@johnsmith-ub7vr okay good. So long as it’s okay and helps people.

Did I say it wrong or spell it wrong somewhere haha?

@@Blackplagueprecision Sounded like you were saying reticule to me.

@ I got you haha. Appreciate the feedback. Speaking clearly and annunciating is on the top of my list of things to work on this year. Did you like the video otherwise?

@@HLDefender hahah why stop there. Just do a 1-200 and call it done. the 80x is pretty crazy actually. Have you been behind one?

A 1:10 zoom ratio is insane. Most scopes currently are 1:4 or 1:5. This is could be groundbreaking. And incredibly hard to do without giving up something else like light transmission or color distortion

@ it’s hard to compare to anything since there aren’t any other scopes that go to 80x . Although it does get slightly darker it’s still really clear. I’d like to compare it’s 40x to some other 40x scopes on the market and do that apples for apples.

I am currently doing testing in this scope so I haven’t released the video of everything it comes with but yes. It comes with sunshade, front and rear caps, parallax lever, and magnification lever. It’s fully kitted out and ready to go. Would it not having a sunshade be a deal breaker?

@Blackplagueprecision all my scopes have sunshades I do not see why it shouldn't be a standard feature on scopes

@ Ya that’s fair. I buy March and Kahles and both come with Sun shades. That must mostly be standard practice now I’d imagine. Have you bought any that didn’t?

@@danarnek binos would be sweet! But the tracking scope is pretty dang impressive!

@@Pew_Professional Little guy was pretty impressive. Sorta wish I had a need for it! Have you used it?

@@MSRWorkshop haha you found the video. What are you going to use it for?

Everything from 19y indoor benches to 100y outdoor benches air gun shooting. Small precision shooting that uses a lot of magnification

@@adamunsell8553 oh I’d really like to talk to you more about that. I’ve actually heard of people using it for this case but I haven’t actually seen it myself.

@@MSRWorkshop I’m certainly not the end all be all on this topic but I researched it a lot, used mine, and talked to the March team and I love it. Check out the two new videos I put out on it. I haven’t shot it at 50 but I have 100 and it’s really bright. Even at 1000 I think it comes through pretty good. It’s hard to film since filming makes it look darker.

@@mikeberger6664 I do remember something being said about having the line thickness reduced but I can not remember which model that was mentioned on. But great feedback. What were you using the scope for?

@@GldenRetriever Great question, that the same one I had. I am working on getting ahold of someone from the company to check in on this. When I do I’ll reply.

S&B has a fiber dot with a ffp reticle but they do not have two reticles in the scope it’s a dot. These scopes actually have two actual etched reticles.

@ Appricated the insight! Thanks for letting us know!

MK Machining makes them. They are pretty amazing. I’ll have a longer video coming out on them soon but they are fully printed, not dyed and they can do any design or color you want. Check them out.

@@marcanthony854 sounds like someone has the inside track on what’s going on haha! All exciting stuff. Can’t wait to see some content come out on the new stuff. I’m going to be on the search at shot show for the vise!

@@marcanthony854 100% agree. That are putting out high quality stuff at great prices and they are great to work with! I’ve used this vise 100x more than I did my previous one now that I can trust my stuff is safe.

@@IRONANDAMMO1988 100% agree that would be a solid addition/ feature. I can’t I have much of a need for it but if it do I might haha. What would you need it to rotate for?

@@Blackplagueprecision The boys at arrow products are making a swivel base. Just wait it’s coming out.

@@Blackplagueprecision The swivel base is coming out. Trust me the boys at arrow are Going to make one

Send it back to the manufacturer

Haha, I mean, that certainly seems cheaper at face value! But let’s break it down. For the tools: • A vise: $30 (cheap) to $60 (mid-tier) • A drill: $50 (basic) to $100 (mid-tier) • A 1/16” drill bit: $5 • A flame torch: $20 (cheap) to $50 (mid-tier) • A propane tank: $10 to $15 • Leather gloves: $15 to $30 • Black tape: $5 That puts you in the $135 (bare minimum) to $265 range, just for the tools and materials. Add in the time spent manually annealing each piece, and you’re getting close to or even exceeding the $300 price of a 2-in-1 annealing system. Sure, if you already own most of this stuff, it does bring the price down. But there’s a reason why 99% of shooters who are willing to reload don’t reload like this anymore. It’s just not efficient, consistent, or worth the hassle when modern tools are available. Butttt, I do think this could make for a fun video-something like “The Cheapest Annealing and Case Prep Center in 2025.” What do you think?

Haha, I mean ya, I own the AMP and Henderson too. I mentioned in my article this would not replace my competition setup but would be my backup and fun range day setup. It's just way quicker. Unless I want to buy the AMP Mate and Dillon case feeder for like another $1000. Which I will probably buy this year too haha. Overall, I think this is a solid product for the majority of reloaders, and the price, man. The price is right!

@Blackplagueprecision dude, get the AmpMate. Pain to set up the first time. Then it is totally worth it. I dump in the Dillon, turn it all on and go wash dishes or do something else around the house, come back and the batch is done. This is the way!!

Hi, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts! You make some valid points-different disciplines have different requirements, and there’s definitely an acceptable range of accuracy that works perfectly well for most situations. For me, though, I shoot with the F-Class and benchrest folks, where extreme accuracy and precision are the name of the game. In those circles, any little edge can make a difference, and we’re always chasing perfection. That said, I totally agree with you-there are so many other things to spend your money on before buying something like this, especially if you're just getting started or don’t take competition super seriously. I’d definitely categorize this as a tool for those who are trying to cut every edge they can. I’ll admit, we competitors might be a bit crazy-spending thousands of dollars just for the chance to win a few bucks and say, "I'm number one!" But in competition, it's never a bad idea to eliminate potential failure points. If something does go wrong, it's one less variable to troubleshoot. Thanks again for the feedback, and happy shooting!

​@@Blackplagueprecision Not trying to initiate a pizzing match lol But my Dad was Shooting NRA Single stack and Palma nationals back in the 60's So was one of my uncles that shot IS. 2 Vietnam vet uncles and a WWII veteran Grandfather. My Dad was a machinist before he started a career in LE and retired as the armorer for our local SD. He had me out there sizing brass in 1979 and I was walking around competitions when I was in diapers lol I understand the shooting sports. I've had gun this and gun that as a daily topic of conversation for 45 years.... And I'm not afraid to spend money on things that work. I gave 1,500 for a stripped lower receiver about 2 weeks ago and like you have several optics in the 4k+ range. It's not about the cost. It's about paying that much for something that's not really doing anything. If that leveling jig was 25 dollars, I'd still be saying it's not helping you. With that said... What is it you think this jig is actually doing for you? You're aligning your reticle and leveling device to a third plane that is irrelevant. The only 2 things that matter is that when your reticle is aligned with gravity, your level indicator, be it electronic or bubble is aligned with the reticle. The base doesn't matter. The second you pull that off and put it on a rifle you're changing the mounting. Now you have to level the rifle? It's not needed.... It wouldn't matter if your rifle had a slight cant, as long as your indicator is aligned with the reticle. You will shift the rifle on the X axis until your indicator shows level and that insures your reticle is level. The actual rifle may be canted... You can do the exact same thing by just putting your rifle in a vice and giving it a rudimentary level as a base to align the more important reticle and leveling device. When you remove your optic and level from that device and move it to a rifle, will it still be perfectly aligned with gravity? Probably not, you have to shift the rifle in the field/on the bench until your indicator shows level/plumb. So the jig you have there isn't really doing anything. You could have done the exact same thing on the rifle... WITHOUT having to unbolt your optic mount and re torque it on the actual rifle.. Which could change the relationship between the actual optic and the indication from the stress of unmounting and mounting. One other thing that is my opinion, yours may differ... but your set up in introducing added fail points that could cause issues over time. Your level indicator is the most important aspect here. You cant eyeball pump/level through the reticle. You have it mounted with 5 connection points. The receiver to rail, rail to mount, bottom of mount to top ring of mount, top ring to surfboard, and surfboard to the actual level indicator. That's 5 places that could work loose or shift over time, or with changing environmental conditions. You could cut that down to 3 connections by mounting the indicator directly to the tube. Not sure if you've ever used a g-force calculator, but depending on your caliber and the rifle weight, that optic and all mounting hardware are introduced to more g-force than a fighter pilot every time you pull the trigger. I'm a big proponent of using the best mounts and mounting hardware possible and elimination any potential fail points when possible. Just my opinion though. I was always taught to keep things simple and stick with things that are consistent and things that work. But back to your leveling jig.... Do you actually think you can align the reticle to the level any better on it than you can on the actual rifle? You're doing the exact same thing on both. Only on the rifle you are done. With the jig you still have to unmount the jig and move the calibrated assemble over to the rifle... Which could change things. I see no advantage that it gives, but I do see the possibility of creating a problem where normal alignment, that F-class guys have been doing for years doesn't.

@@chrisrosenthal1210 First off, thank you for sharing such a well-thought-out perspective! It’s clear you’ve put decades of experience into understanding the science, mechanics, and practical aspects of shooting sports. I have a lot of respect for the depth of your knowledge, especially coming from a family with such a rich history in the sport and industry. Your points about simplifying processes and minimizing fail points resonate deeply with anyone striving for reliable, consistent results. You make an excellent case for traditional methods of scope leveling, and I completely agree with much of what you’re saying. Aligning the reticle to gravity and ensuring the level indicator matches the reticle is absolutely the critical aspect. At the end of the day, what matters is repeatable performance on the rifle, not just on a setup jig. Your argument about the potential for introducing misalignment during the transition from a jig to the rifle is spot-on and is something that’s always worth considering when evaluating tools like this. Now, here’s where I’d offer a slightly different perspective.

@@chrisrosenthal1210 For shooters who are very comfortable with traditional methods, you’re absolutely right-using a jig or mount with micro-adjustments may feel redundant or even unnecessary. However, for others, tools like these can offer real advantages, particularly in these areas: Micro-Precision Adjustments: One of the biggest benefits of systems like the Arrow Precision Scope Leveling Mount is their ability to make incredibly fine adjustments to the reticle and level. This is particularly useful for shooters chasing extreme long-range (ELR) accuracy or those who are meticulous about their setup. For them, even a fraction of a degree off can translate into measurable misses downrange. The precision these tools provide is hard to replicate by hand or even with a vice setup. Consistency and Repeatability: While you’re absolutely correct that the mounting process on the rifle can introduce changes, a system like this minimizes human error during the initial setup. It’s not necessarily about creating a “perfect” system (because, as you pointed out, you’ll still need to confirm alignment on the rifle); rather, it’s about making that process faster and easier for those who may not have years of experience or access to professional tools. Field Applications and Newer Shooters: For those without access to a proper vice or for newer shooters who may struggle with eyeballing plumb through the reticle, these tools can be a game-changer. They offer a clear and structured process that reduces the likelihood of user error, especially for someone learning the finer points of optic setup. For experienced shooters like yourself, it might feel like overkill-but for others, it can simplify what can be an intimidating process. Minimizing Stress During Mounting: One of the issues you raised-removing and re-torquing the optic-can indeed introduce stress or minor shifts in alignment. That’s a valid concern. However, a micro-adjustable system allows users to make corrections in smaller, more controlled increments. Fail Points: You bring up an excellent point about reducing the number of fail points. Fewer connections always mean fewer opportunities for something to go wrong. That said, not all systems introduce unnecessary fail points. A quality leveling system often integrates directly into the optic or base in a way that minimizes extra hardware. It’s definitely something worth evaluating for each system individually, and I appreciate you pointing it out.

@@chrisrosenthal1210 Ultimately, I think we’re aligned in our goals: achieving reliable, repeatable, and precise results while keeping the process as simple as possible. Tools like these aren’t designed to replace traditional methods but to enhance or refine the process for those who want or need that extra edge. For some shooters, especially newer ones, these systems may feel like a “shortcut” that simplifies setup. For others, like you, traditional methods backed by years of experience might remain the gold standard-and that’s absolutely valid. Your feedback is incredibly valuable because it pushes the conversation forward and helps others think critically about their tools and methods. I appreciate your deep understanding of the mechanics and your passion for reliability-it’s a perspective that many of us can learn from. Thanks again for sharing your insights! I’d love to hear more about your experiences and methods for setting up optics directly on the rifle. Your input could be a fantastic addition to this conversation and help a lot of folks refine their own processes.

Glad you liked it! Thanks for the watch!

Both products are outstanding. Highly recommend. I need to do a review on the Henderson. Love it but I plan to try out some other systems this year too. What systems are you using now? Thanks for stopping by!

@ I’m using a power drill connected to an RCBS trimmer and RCBS prep station. . I was thinking of getting the Hornady’s copy of the Henderson. lol 😂 I’ll be at the Shot Show in couple weeks so I’ll swing by Hornady’s booth. Will you be at Shot?

@@Mkkboi I wrote an article on the New Hornady Trimmer. Check it out and let me know what you think. Ya I'll be at Shot. Lets Connect. Shoot me an email and we will find some time to meet up.

100% agree. The price is right, it is built amazingly, they look cool... I saw there is going to be a limited run on OG Green! All in all a really great product. I am excited to have it as my friends and family annealer!

Haha appreciated. That was a quick practice day. I think were were in an hour in just a few hours. But I plan to film a lot more there as it's my home range.

Just working on content that is finally coming out haha.

Oh I’ve never heard of practice score! I’m going to check that out. Thank you.

I’d highly recommend it. I did look at the vise you had and I’m sure I was just being paranoid but with the heavy build I was just worried I would have the support I need. I couldn’t be happier with this set up. We spend a lot of money on these rigs and optics. Can’t afford to not have the best tools for them, right? Appreciate you man! Thanks for the comment and making awesome videos!

@Blackplagueprecision I had the same concern. It is quite sturdy. More than I expected. Real test coming when I need to change my barrel. Not sure it will lock in tight enough to torque my action back to the new barrel. I will find out in a few months when I shoot mine out. This would certainly be better for that purpose. Great ideas they incorporated into this vise. I enjoy making videos. Thank you for checking mine out! I will have my own KYL rack coming in next week. I may do my own version of Cortina's Blackjack challenge and have some viewers out to try it themselves. Just need the rain to stop so I can build that part of my range. Targets will get here Tuesday, so set up next weekend! Have a great rest of your weekend, dude!

@ you need to record that SHORT of the first pull on the barrel change to see what happens. I had a bench snap one time! Oh ya I’m super excited to see some content around that! Looks fun! Wish I had some land to shoot on out here. Suburb life haha

@Blackplagueprecision Dang! I hope that doesn't happen, lol. I may go to my friend's place to have some supervision my first time 🤣 But, either way I go at it, I will be filming for a video! Gonna get all the life I can out if my current barrel first, of course.

This vise is so solid, works amazing, and looks great. I was considering the Orange Vise for a long time. Glad this one came out at a good price point.

@@Blackplagueprecision I have 2, love them. Great company as well to del with.

No, 600.00 plus, but worth every penny

@@marcanthony854 agree! Have you seen the video I put out on the vise?

Check out the new article I wrote to answer this question. Mastering the AR-10 for Long-Range Competition: 10 Models and PRS Gas Gun Division Insights

@@raptor660rrr9 If you have anything you want to see that isn’t on there, shoot an email over and I’ll get it up! It’s going to take a while to build content up but with the help of the community it can be a much needed resource!

@@jacobclark1266 that’s awesome your shop gets them but it’s sorta is. Country is a big place. They aren’t in a single shop around me. And I’m just talking about the chassis itself let along full builds.

@@markcizmadia2246 Honestly so sick! It’s awesome to hear this is an option for people now, 100x upgrade in my opinion. What do you think?

Absolutely a great idea, I paid much less then putting it together myself as well.

@@markcizmadia2246 Heck ya!

@@justjeepinitreal haha truth😂. I run a Bat. What do you like?

@@Blackplagueprecision Terminus Actions - Zeus

@@justjeepinitreal ahhh pretty penny… pretty much the same price point as the BAT

Man I love it. Many people don't understand why I am so excited in this video haha. I would rather they be sold in the ACC system. When I talk to people about getting an off the rack rifle first thing I tell them is they should throw it in an ACC so this solves a lot of issues!

@@Blackplagueprecision it’s been, I believe, in part to the PRS Production division. Trying to make off the rack rifles more competitive

@@voltage8919 Correct haha. The point was that these rifle chassis aren’t just on any rifle. I didn’t think they were retail stocked all. I know speciality shops have them to buy separately but it was surprising to see it being sold on a full system.

@@austinbarkley747 I didn’t even pay attention to what was in it. I was just surprised to see it being sold in the MDT chassis system. I wonder if someone sold it to them and they were reselling it or if they purposefully upgraded it.

That’s exactly what it is, I’ve seen them for sale at Bass pro

As a west coast guy I'd love to defend us but I hear some great things about the east coast shooters. My boy Two Tenths Left has been updating me on the east coast PRS and Rimfire scene.

I train at Coleman’s creek and live in Summerville SC. Clinton house is my 2nd spot but central is where I’m moving for next years pro series. Not enough match time out here. Central has matches every weekend

I watch 2-10ths left a lot cause we’re both lefty’s

@@Triggertarzan That is awesome. There are even less Fclass and Bench Rest Matches out here in California haha. But PRS and Rim have really grown and there are pro matches near me now. Pretty cool! Hope the shooting goes well!

Thank you. I know I can be a bit long winded haha but I like to provide as much info as I can. I know when I was getting started I sorta wished people would explain stuff more.

Ya I tested it out! I put a range day video up where I tested the XLP and the magnifiers while doing a tuner test. I haven’t released my final thought video but I would highly recommend! It is 10x better than my last level. I am going to shoot it at 1000 in a week. That’s what I was waiting for, for the final video. Buy it and don’t look back!

Perfect. Thanks.