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Thank you. It was exciting for sure.

That's a great question. I went with the shortest possible (45") because my skiff is small and I fish in very shallow water. It would be too shot if my boat was a little taller out of the water and I needed it to hold me in any kind of waves or serious chop. As is I have never needed to lower it all the way. I've been recently testing a Motor Guide Xi3 with a 54" shaft and if I am standing flat on the deck of the skiff I sometimes hit the motor with my fishing pole - especially on hook sets. If I am on a platform or cooler then I clear over the top. The other consideration is how far it sticks outside of the boat when stowed - depending on the mounted angle. So when you are coming into a dock you may end up bouncing the head off the dock if it is sticking out too far.

Thank you Steve.

I’m not sold on the Move for my application. I don’t think I’ll be putting it back on the Eldora. The slight edge it has in quietness over the motor guide is not worth the extra 30 lbs of weight. So I’m going to try the Motor Guide for a while and see.

@@LynxAngler thanks, if I saw correctly Motor guide does not sync with the power pole, true?

I don't believe it does ... There are no buttons on the remote for the deployment of an anchor so i'm not sure how it could. Having those buttons on the Power Pole remote is a great feature.

@@LynxAngler thanks, hate to keep off topic here but was the Whipray you were trying out on the market?

@@mikemcgovern8719 Yes, in fact it may still be. I no longer see it for sale on their website so you would have to call and see. It was a super, super clean boat for a 2021.

Thanks Jeff. I’m still thinking about how to get the really small tiller on my skiff. Because I agree with you 100%, the smaller the better. I had access to this xi3 from a used boat at my store so I grabbed it to test.

@@LynxAngler Store?

Funny, I'm sure like me you have forgotten everything you have, or have not said, on camera that made it into a video. I always feel like I have shared so much more than I actually have because I have filmed and said so many things that I never used. I am obviously not a professional fisherman or TH-camr, I am in fact a Subaru dealer and I also own a Powersports and Marine dealership - both in Orlando. In this case the motor came in on a Bass Tracker into my Marine dealership.

@@LynxAngler Nice! Now I know who to ask next time I need boat parts, LOL! Don't own a Subaru though. I make a point of not talking much about my businesses in my videos either. About the only time I do is when I do a giveaway.

@@JeffHammerFishing I'd be happy to try and save you some $$ Jeff. The best chance to do so would be on a repower. I can get pretty good deals on outboards. I am also a Power Pole dealer and get decent discounts there. Most of the rest of the marine electronics game is super cutthroat.

Thank you. I wish I could find those all the time. That was fun!

That’s really interesting. I’ve heard there are very large drum at haulover and I’ve caught some big ones under the Smyrna bridge. I didn’t know they stopped spawning once they got too old / big.

@@LynxAngler we all get cut short in our time,... but I'll never retreat under the porch, not this ole dog! .. I believe its the draw bridge when you cross on co.4 road, it's been so long ago. I hope you try it love to see you catch one of those huge reds,

Funny enough I had the chance recently, on another boat build, to make the decision again and I still put it on the right. After almost a year of use now I am very adept at deploying and stowing using only my right hand and right foot. In some of my videos you will see me stowing the motor this way while fighting bigger fish so I don't break them off on the motor. I don't think I would have the coordination to do that with my left hand since it does involve aligning the motor with the cradle while pulling up. In addition as someone who also likes to fly fish I strip with my left hand so I like knowing the motor is on the opposite side of the bow so the fly line doesn't tangle on it. This video was shot during my first time ever using the motor and I was figuring things out. Stowing and deploying is an absolute piece of cake now, it might be the Move's best feature actually.

That's a great question Mike. The best thing about the move is that the steering is the one thing that is truly silent. However, after a little salt gets built up on the shaft it will get a little sticky or creaky when you first engage the steering. But a little light oil seems to take that away. The motor itself is the thing that is not silent. Is it better than all the others ... maybe. It is definitely better than my old MK trolling motors. But I've learned you have to take my experience with a grain of salt because the open design of the Eldora means that the whole boat is a speaker. It amplifies any sound in the water, even fish drumming resonate through the hull. When I am on CAs boat with the Move I can't hear it to save my life.

@@LynxAngler thanks appreciate the comments. I currently have a MK I pilot and am always aggravated with the electronic noise exchange with the steering.change from the remote.., I’m thinking about the Move, but debating the gains vs cost. Thanks again. Good luck out there.

A trailer would make launching easy, but adds a whole new dimension to the experience that I don't want. I normally fish in the salt out of my skiff, which has a trailer. So I want the kayak to be simple. I'm getting the simple part figured out. I just loaded it into the truck for another trip and it took only a few minutes, which is almost exactly how long it takes to hook up my boat.

Thank you Mike. That's a good observation and I have plenty of PWC trailers that would work over at my Sea Doo / Yamaha store. But I have a policy, if I am pulling a trailer and taking on all of the extra responsibilities entailed with the trailer it should be a boat, like my Eldora, back there. I want the kayak to be all about simplicity, and ease, event though the ease isn't apparent in this video, haha. I am figuring the ease part out and it's getting really good. No trailer means easy in rush hour traffic, easy to park, no extra maintenance and no flat tires (like what happened in my pompano video).

I'm glad I filmed some of the cart debacle because that was frustrating. I messed with it so long that I actually got locked in the park and had to call the police to let me out! What a day ... Anyway I was out there Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning in the Kayak. I fished from the skiff Friday and Saturday but only caught a couple of smaller fish. I plan on heading back tomorrow afternoon and probably Saturday morning.

Wow, thank you so much. It is a labor of love, but a labor nonetheless. Your kind words are all the motivation I need to keep going and improving!

Not really, it's almost 40" wide and pretty stable. There is an initial dip in the direction when you shift your weight, but it really doesn't go any further.

Thank you. There is so much you can do with these to make them just how you like.

Thank you. That is a good tip, i'll remember that next time.

I don't know if I can handle one bigger, but I'd like to try!

Thank you.

Thank you Thonny. I can't wait to show you the lagoon one day.

What 360 camera? I hired a cameraman obviously! Actually I've been playing with the insta360 X4 and the DJI Pocket 3. The Pocket 3 is not 360, it's tracking me. The image quality from the P3 is vastly superior to the insta360 camera, which is not very good. The image on the P3 almost rivals the big camera (A7S3). The tracking on the P3 can be finicky, however. So I was out on Saturday, which is rare for me, but actually it wasn't that busy. You were out on Sunday? That's a very interesting observation about the stomachs. I am obsessed with why and when they eat. Now that I know where they live and get to observe them so often, I see there is absolutely a time when they want to eat and when they don't want to eat, just like us.

@@LynxAngler Boy you sure have a lot of fun gadgets! Those are some nice cameras and like I said, you're getting some pretty cool shots with them. I have probably 20 to 25 gopros, but I tear them up, so I avoid the latest most expensive stuff. Fishing every week in the heat, cold, moisture and salt is hard on electronics so they just don't last for me. So...Saturday was June 8th, which is the day I was out. You titled this video June 7th, so I assumed you were out Friday. If you were out Saturday, then I bet we were less than a 1/4 mile apart, because I was just a little south of where I believe you were fishing. If we were out the same day in almost the same area, then you had vastly different results than I did. Although I may have caught more "fish", I would have rather had your day, LOL. I finished editing my video this morning, so it should be up before lunch.

​@@JeffHammerFishing I am a gadget fanatic, always have been. I swear I fish just so I can play with the gadgets! Because we had low tide in the morning I went south, around slippery, and had no luck. I made a small move further south around Gaines and found them in there. The trout and 2nd red were caught in the afternoon up north of JBs. I edited the video out of order to try and get my thumbnail fish in a little sooner than it naturally happened. But my morning was terrible. First fish in the video was probably 11am and I started at 6. I normally watch all of my favorite fishing TH-cam channels in my gym while I workout. So yesterday I watched you on the windy day catch a boatload of fish! I was jealous.

Typically I only fish during the week to avoid the crowds but in this video I went on Saturday. I was surprised that it wasn't very busy. It could have been the 100 degree temps keeping everyone away.

Thank you Jeff. The burning question I have (and I know you will have insight on this) is: how will this ultimately compare work-wise on a full day of fishing to the skiff? You and I have quite simplified boats, but they still have plenty of mechanical parts & trailers to maintain and things to clean. My kayaks are lucky to get a hose splashed over them as the entirety of their maintenance program. This thing is heavy to hoist into the truck bed, but once inside I am just driving a longer truck - not a truck and trailer. The electric motors on the back take a lot of the work away, but they are quite slow. I really don't know for sure, however, I strongly suspect that I am so spoiled by the skiff that I might want to kill myself doing a full day on this.

@@LynxAngler You may see in some of my videos I do some freshwater trips in a bare bones kayak. Just a paddle, life jacket, couple rods and basic lures/tools. It’s a fair amount of work, especially with any significant wind. I generally stay under 3-4 hours, and my shoulders ache a bit afterward. I’m sure with the electric motor it’ll be better but it’s going to be hard to sight fish from that low. Over the years I’ve portaged heavier John boats and canoes over land to get into tough spots, and 200 lbs will be a lot of work by yourself unless you get one of those 2 wheel beach carts to help get down to the water. But you may have good, easy access to the places you want to go.

True!

Thank you Mike.

Using the TM remote is a very good point I didn't consider. That would be more like the way I fish from my skiff when I am not polling it. I've always favored the Hobie kayaks with the idea that you can use the pedals in shallow water by adjusting your kicks. But like you said I can't do that while standing ... well you sort of can actually but it is sort of clunky to push the pedals with your hand.

It's frustrating but if it was easy I guess it wouldn't be fun.

LOL that's funny. It's even worse I lost one at the boat but he was the little one! The flounder was a surprise. I'd really like to keep some fish but I'm afraid of running afoul of the regulations and I don't really know them off hand. My cooler is also full of gear and no ice sadly. But maybe if I can get into a good trout bite I can get better prepared. Funny enough I haven't caught a trout in a while.

I'll bet it was amazing back then. I can't even imagine the number of fish and how unfamiliar they would have been to lures.

@@LynxAngler I mainly used a white spoon are finger mullet and crabs , now trout are a different story if they can get away from the dolfins

@@SteveB-hy2ci I was just thinking I haven't caught a trout in a little while. I'd like to get back into them!

@@LynxAngler I'd like to see that! Can't wait.

I don't mind the talking,talk!

Me too! I love redfish but snook are powerful and can be more exciting to catch when they jump.

Well done 👍🏼

@@flatsclasscharters Thank you CA. You might not have recognized the top water but it was my Flats Class University bait of the month. Actually Carlos lost my original one on a giant fish last week, so I bought a new one. FCU has helped me catch so many more fish!!

User-oo3tb1qu5u is a really unique name, I am assuming you are a bot. If I am correct I really wonder why a bot would comment, completely off topic, on my video. What's in it for whomever is running the bot farm?

@@LynxAngler bots rule the world...

@@njsurfrider At least you're real NJ!

@@LynxAngler I could be real, or I could be an AI who just thinks it is real. LOL, ok I am done now. That place is the ultimate puzzle for me.

@@njsurfrider Just when you think you have it figured out a major variable changes and you are back to square one. But I am learning that consistency is the key. Since getting my place over there and going so much that you start to develop their patterns. That is why guides can always put you on fish, they know.

That's a good point Mike. It's also important, maybe even more important, to know how your drag is set for those hook sets. Too loose and the rod action won't matter, too tight and you will break off big fish. I had both scenarios play out yesterday and the day before.

I do not normally catch mangrove snappers because I use too large of a lure. But I have caught a few in that exact bay when using smaller winter time lures. They were not very large though.

They are strong for sure. Since I was fishing in 2’ of water he couldn’t go down - just away.

I fish in the Canaveral National Seashore National Park, but not really at the cape itself. Cape Canaveral is a long way south of where I am normally at. I fish in the islands to the East of a town called Oak Hill. If you wanted to fish right at the cape you would either be offshore, inside the port, or in the Banana River. All three can be great fishing spots.

Yes, I've had the smaller ones from a trip years ago to clearwater - very good. I'm never in a position to keep anything on the boat - my Yeti is a storage locker! But from the beach I will definitely keep some drum. You have awesome hearing and are correct. As always I messed with things one too many times and messed it up. As someone with a lot more experience will I ever stop making these dumb mistakes?

@@LynxAngler 🤣No, probably not. Sometimes I get so sick of rewatching my own edits multiple times trying to catch all the problems, but it does get easier eventually.

Hi Pam. We launched at the Monkey Bar in Homosassa River and ran down south to the Chasowitzka River in the gulf. We fish around the outer islands there. CA lives and guides out of there so he knows his way around the countless rivers and tributaries over there. I have been to Chokoloskee yet but ti is on my list!

Thank you. It's one way to guarantee you will not be the star of your own video. 🙂

Thank you. They help you see the fish and I would say I like them over all. I sometimes use my Yeti on the Eldora when I want that little extra vision. My Marquesa has one that I could share but I don’t have the screw down hole on the Eldora and I can’t add one without redoing the aqua traction decking.

Thank you CA. It's always a pleasure to fish with you. Can't wait for Louisiana!

Thank you.

That's a video I've been trying to make for some time but my feelings keep changing. I've been so frustrated at times that I've seriously looked at everything else, even tillers. But after comparing everything else I think it is the best for what we do. It's the shallowest by virtue of its smaller skeg and prop. I measured them all and it's at least 1/2" shorter. The deploy and store mechanism works very well, even one handed. I love having the anchor buttons on the same remote. I love all the power, again from a motor unit that is smaller and more slender than the other brushless motors. It's not silent, but as far as I know it is the quietest. It is much, much quieter than either of my MinnKotas (Powerdrive and Ulterra). The only thing that might be able to go more shallow would be a tiller, but then I lose the course lock, and I think that would be a big loss. So it's not perfect, and I'm not sure it's worth the money, but it is an essential part of the boat if you are a solo angler. That's why I get frustrated - it's critical to my success - so I'm need it and expect a lot. I'll make the video soon.

Mike, I wanted to update my answer a little. I spent Wednesday with Flat's Class CA Richardson on his HB Professional with an identical Move PV - much more beat up than mine - and was impossible to hear. I was freaking out all day. We both think it is because the Eldora is so open in the bow and has light weight construction that it reverberates a lot more than a normal boat would. The Pro is a more substantial boat than the Eldora, and even on speeds 9 it seemed totally silent. Underwater I am sure it wasn't, but the way my boat amplifies the vibration I think it is a bigger problem for me.

@@LynxAngler makes sense, but would an MK on yours HB make the same amount of noise?

@@mikemcgovern8719 I think it would noisier unless it was one of the new brushless Minn Kotas. I used to run a MK Power Drive on the Eldroa and it was loud. For fun I put the MK Ulterra from my Marquesa on the Eldora and it was much louder on that boat than what I was used to, which makes sense to me now. The Marquesa is a much bigger, more substantial boat with all sealed hatches up front. But in the end it really all depends on the fish. Fish looking to eat don't care too much about noise, fish that aren't looking for food are easy to spook and very hard to catch. So like most things I get a bit carried away with these things.🙂

@@LynxAngler so true, when they’re ready they are ready, they don’t spook as easily and they’ll eat just about anything. God luck out there.

Thank you.

Thank you for the b-day wishes Mike. I hope I am still fishing when I need all 4 fish!!

Thank you Jeff. It felt like there really was a little birthday magic, but I think the fishing is finally starting to heat up!

That's a good question. If I remember it's not a Power Pole brand stake, I think I was in a rush and picked up whatever they had at bass pro. I'll have to measure it but I don't think it could be any shorter. There are times where it barely touches the bottom or misses it altogether. Maybe 48 or 54 inches? I'll measure it.

Hey Kyle I measured it and I am surprised to see it is 62" to the bottom of the plastic handle (maybe 72" overall). It is not a Power Pole spike, so I do not know who makes it.

@@LynxAngler Thanks for the reply. My 8' spike just sticks up so high that I want to cut it down. I just don't want to regret it if I cut it too short. Might just buy another shorter spike when I'm way up skinny.

I've only been the one time but I know CA frequents that river fairly often. You should check his channel at Flats Class TH-cam and even his school Flats Class University. He just completed a course on how to find fish consistently that I thought was really good.