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Where in Scripture do you get these conclusions?

@@VanillaGorilla1977 You arrive at those conclusions by the use of logic. They are also supported by the scriptures : John 17:24-25 " ...for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. Righteous Father, although the world has not known You, yet I have known You; " The whole passage is IN THE PAST. In it we can see a "WORLD vs. JESUS" CONFRONTATION : in this confrontation Jesus succeeded in knowing the Father, whilst the world FAILED instead. But WHY did the world fail ? The easy answer is in the same passage : the Father is "BEFORE the foundation of the world". Since the Father is BEFORE, He is antecedent and therefore cannot be known by the world: in other words Father and world did not exist at the same time. This means that Jesus WINS this confrontation: on the contrary He is ABLE to know the Father. Why? Of course because Jesus is OLDER than the world and was thus able to know the Father. The meaning of all that is extremely important : the almighty GOD only existed in that remote past, this is why "No one has ever seen God" (John 1:18)! Thus,the almighty God is NOT AVAILABLE now, indeed the only way to "somehow" see the Father is to SEE JESUS (see the answer to Philip).

@@claudiozanella256 this is confirmation bias. I'm asking you to give me supporting Scripture for your claims. You have these theories and have picked Scripture that has words that you are taking out of context to support your theories ignoring the rest of Scripture. Context is always needed to show truth.

@@VanillaGorilla1977 The context is that the almighty God CANNOT be here now because He would know even his own future and this would destroy his freedom, this is why He is in the past. The trinity doctrine is an absurd theory, no triune God, no trinity exists: 1. The almighty God CANNOT BE HERE among us for a logical reason: He would know the future and this would destroy his freedom. This is why He is in the PAST ("The world has not known you"). Christianity is a "workaround" that allows God to be here among us in the transformed form of a non-omnipotent God: Jesus, the God who doesn't know the future. 2. if the Father has NOT been generated and the Son has been generated, they surely are not co-equal. 3. it is even offensive to talk about the "substance" of God, God is not made up by a "substance". 4. therefore it's nonsense to state that Father and Son are made by a SAME substance 5. even if they were made by a same substance, they still are two different Persons as long as they have two DIFFERENT MINDS. 6. it's absurd having TWO different almighty persons in the universe, if one wants the moon white painted, what will the other one do in this regard, can He change that color? Only one omnipotent person is logically allowed 7. it's absurd to state that an "omnipotent Lord who gives life" exists, a "forgotten Lord" totally UNKNOWN in the scriptures 8. it's ridiculous to state that the almighty God is not sufficiently almighty and He needs the help from a God's Helper 9. it's lying to state that Jesus is almighty when the gospels state exactly the opposite.

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