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That’d be peak for sure

In the extended version of this clip there might be some blushing mentioned😂

Lol

No dude it’s actually insane, I’m completely at a loss😭

I hope you slept well!

@@kookthekid8338 i did ! btw you should delete this vid lmao

@ I stand by every point in it, so I won’t be doing that🙂 not everybody is gonna like where the story is heading, and I don’t, but I’m glad if you do!

@@kookthekid8338 nah dude, you're just yapping about false ideas and points you made up :)

@ if you want to paint what I said in an untrue light because you disagree that’s on you! I don’t understand this need to just say the points don’t exist when they clearly do, maybe because you can’t argue against them? I’m not really sure. But I really hope you have a good day! No hard feelings for not understanding the video🙂 and I hope you continue to enjoy and support Warframe! Whether I like the direction they’re taking or not, I want the game to continue to do well so we can all continue to enjoy it

He might already be friendly with Wally in all honesty! And Wally using him to influence the Grineer could be an interesting story line for sure!

It’s not, I stand by everything I say in this video, and after playing all the way through the update I think it aged even better

@kookthekid8338 if by better you mean like milk then I totally agree.

@@JedahDemon If you liked the story in the update, that's perfectly fine, but not everybody has to like it, I don't have positive feelings towards this update, but it's perfectly fine if you liked it yourself.

@kookthekid8338 some of the info you show isn't even accurate though. Like when you talk about Dark Sector the footage you show (and the info you provide outside of the initial synopsis) aren't even from Dark Sector, it's from an unreleased game that turned into Warframe. If you watch the full video for the footage you provided that game takes place in space on a ship that looks identical to the Zariman, Dark Sector takes place on Earth. So not only is the video rage bait, but it's not then accurate rage bait.

This is a comment responding to someone completely different, but, it applies to the same point you're bringing up. The footage was concept art FOR DARK SECTOR. The comment was slightly rude because they used some very inappropriate language with me, so don't think that's directed at you, however, your point is equally as bad. You said the content was from the original dark sector showcase, and I used it as evidence of dark sector inspiring 1999 and being similar. I mean, do I need to explain why you're wrong here? You aren't even countering my point, something that was made for Dark Sector, and has a Dark sector label on it, looks incredibly similar to 1999 and its themes. If this trailer wasn't labeled Dark Sector, was made for Dark Sector, in the theme of Dark Sector, and made to showcase Dark Sector, you'd have a point. Unfortunately for you, it does do all of those things. I didn't get a single thing wrong here, you're just blatantly wrong and are trying to claim concept work for Dark Sector isn't related to Dark Sector somehow?

I disagree!😂

@@kookthekid8338 too bad, its heresy

@@oktena no you

@@kookthekid8338 false, you

He coulda dodged that tank tho

@kookthekid8338 He could've, but momma was calling him for dinner. He was gonna have to go.

that's fair

Definitely not a lie, I stand by everything I said in this video, and after playing all the way through the update I agree with it even more. The story is really weak, and going in a bad direction, in my personal opinion.

Oh I was joking…

I got baited lmao, W bait

Noooooo signupking🙇🏼‍♂️🥲

I appreciate this comment, and while I do disagree with a lot of it, I appreciate the sentiment and what you're bringing up. I obviously like my own video, and you don't, not really much to argue with there lmao, however, when it comes to mimicking I just have to say there's zero chance I did, even unintentionally, and it's because how this video was crafted. This video wasn't meant to be a negative video at all, but just a video talking about 1999 lore and theory crafting what might be happening and how we got there, and while researching it I became extremely disheartened, because I legitimately didn't like the way the game was going. This led to me becoming more and more negative in a lore and theory script, which led to me just making a video about my grievances. Maybe the reason you feel like the tone or pacing is off is because parts of the script from what was meant to be a lore video are still intact, but I personally thought and still think it added to the emotions present in the video, and helped better get my point across. Because this didn't start out as a video meant to bash DE, but slowly turned into it because of my real feelings about the update. I actually have a title and parts of a thumbnail made for the original lore video, before I changed what I wanted this video to be. I pride myself on making good accurate lore videos, and would never want my own negative emotions to feed into them and make them biased or insulting in any way possible, which is why I plan to cover the lore of this game as I normally do. When it comes to being like Dark Sector, I want to make it clear, that I didn't mean it would be the same story beat by story beat. While I know I did say copy and pasted in script, I think that's a pretty clear exaggeration that was meant to be funny, especially how I said it. While this video was meant to be my real feelings, which it is and I still agree with my points, it is also meant to be entertaining. When it comes to being like Dark Sector, I meant more the vibes, location, enemy designs, and so on, which I still believe are incredibly similar in 1999. To hammer home this point of them being similar even more so, Ford herself literally states that 1999 was inspired by and wouldn't exist without Dark Sector, and that it was uniquely Warframe. This to me, sounds like an update added to Warframe that completely tried to recreate the theme of Dark Sector inside Warframe, and I still think that's exactly what they did. You can disagree with that, but I mean the lead dev herself even said so. I really love Warframe, and will play this update, and the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and I'll more than likely continue making content on the game for years to come! However, just because I love Warframe, I don't have to like every single thing they do, and that's what I stated here in this video. I hope that you continue enjoying your warframe grind, and cheers!

@kookthekid8338 fair enough. Maybe I was a little too aggressive with the "objectively bad" part especially cause it's so subjective. I like the gameplay better than the lore so I shouldn't be the one arguing in its favor. I personally enjoyed the path the story is taking (dark sector inspiration or not). It's unfortunately impossible to avoid convoluted plots when you have "paradoxes" and "dreams" and multiple dimensions and realities involved. Anyway sorry if I came out as aggressive. I did watch the entire video and it had good points, your comment gave me more insight on what might have happened. I'll be sure to check other lore videos as it's something I'm not extremely familiar with. Have a good one man!

@@wellincolin no you’re fine, I don’t think you were aggressive at all! You’re allowed to dislike the video lmao, and having people say they dislike the tone or pacing is feedback I can look into even if I don’t always agree with it! I of course would encourage you to check out my lore videos lmao😂 this is actually the first like written negative video I’ve ever made about the story in Warframe, so pretty much all the lore videos are just nerding out over things I like. But thanks for your comment, and I hope you continue enjoying the game! While I still really don’t like the story of the update, even less so now to be completely honest, I do like some of the designs, and the game seemed to remember it was rated M with some of the things that happen late in the mission, which I do appreciate! And of course, the update played smooth and the gameplay was good as always.

Thank you for this comment! I love this sort of discourse on these videos and seeing everybody's opinions on my update, and the content in Warframe, comments like yours are literally the reason I made a TH-cam channel. For your first point I agree with mostly, I think I have a harder stance on it being disconnected, but other than that I agree for the most part. For your second point, while I do agree to a certain extent for him to have a change of heart, the change of heart I'd expect would honestly make him more aggressive. I mean after being locked up for centuries, the first thing he does is try to kill the Tenno. That would be the time for him to change and reflect in my opinion, but he didn't, and since then, the Tenno really haven't done anything for him that would cause a change in mind in a way that makes sense in my personal opinion. I think that the romance system is bad because I just truly don't believe it fits in Warframe, same with the boy band, but obviously people can have different takes on this. Tencent is a pretty terrible company, probably one of the worst in the gaming industry in all honesty, so I really expect them to do anything they want, including forcing certain games to be made, or not to be made, depending on what they think is best. I think they would approve something like soul frame, because of the success of Warframe, and name recognition will help soul frame get popular, so it makes a lot of sense to let it be made in my opinion, even by a more strict parent company. When it comes to releasing this right before the update was released, that was pure bad timing. Obviously, I think a lot of people thought I was trying to rage bait right before the update came out. But I had the thumbnail, script, title, and most the video figured out and done several days ago before the game rewards announcement. I understand that releasing this literally hours before the update came out is bad optics, and I really think it would of been much better received if it was a week or so before, but I mean I never expected them to announce the update came out the next day. I'm actually planning to stream the game live here soon, right after I finish my finals for some classes. Thank you so much for your comment!

In response to Hunhow going for the throat on the Tenno once he was awoken, I think that was more of the fact that he was (as I understand it from the Natah quest) asleep for all those centuries and more than likely thought it was still the Old War similar to how Loid did. Once he was awoken he did attempt to reach out in a few different ways to extend his power, most notably in Second Dream and Octavia's Anthem. I do think he had every intention to kill the Tenno up until the time of the New War. We don't know how long Narmer/Ballas was in control of the Origin system for and he more than likely had time to ruminate on what he was really fighting for. Then once the Drifter arrived just trying to get help to save Lotus because she chose the Tenno herself, he had that push to flip that leaf. I can agree that the Romance System is very odd to add to a game like Warframe while the boy band could be 50/50 (still hoping for the Khal and Clem shawzin duet). But in defense of it, while being an odd choice, isn't just a surface level thing so they did put effort into it for those who want to get into it. I agree that Tencent is not a great company but they don't really step in until things are falling apart. I think giving Soulframe a pass isn't right only because the only people who will really know about it right now are for the most part Warframe players. Yes it has been covered by other creators but the majority of their play testers currently are Warframe players and Soulframe is a completely different feeling comparatively so it is still a risk. While Dark Sector was not well received on launch it did get at least decent reviews and sales for the times. Still I don't think DE would want to do a Dark Sector 2 but are willing to look at it with fondness for what it means for the company. Makes sense to have everything already done basically a few days before hand but the timing for release is still very humorous. I think more of cautious optimism would have been seen a little clearer than more theatrics for emphasis would have come off better but that's just me!

I agree with a lot of this in all honesty, however, a few things have been mentioned. There is a corpus orb spider fight now, and they added that in 2019. There's still no good faction quest really for steel or arbiters, the tower is still pretty unimportant, I'm not sure if anyone really like duiviri and the Zariman really and they're both still kinda messy in my opinion. They explain away the infested as different strains that do different things, and I don't believe they've addressed the helminth. But yeah, I didn't talk about the sentients nearly as much as I should of, but, my feelings are nearly the exact same that you've written out here!

@@kookthekid8338 I'm not talking about the two orb spider fights that are in the game right now, with the one that adapts to damage that's a pain to fight, and the one that rewards Hildryn blueprints and it's actually a pretty good boss fight. There was a third orb spider submerged in a lake somewhere towards the edge of the map, which had been hinted at for a long time to be a future boss fight. Last I played in 2020 (my mistake for saying 6 years, I stopped playing shortly after heart of deimos came out) that orb spider was still dormant. I vaguely remember there being a fourth orb spider as well, but I might be wrong about that. I still like to keep track of Warframe lore, though! I think it's a nice universe with some really cool ideas and some good quests on occasion. I liked some of the gameplay elements too, such as the mechanics of some weapons (I remember having a lot of fun with glaives and Dual Toxocyst in particular), although the gradual discouragement from a stealth-ish game style to nuke-everything through the ability sets of latest warframes and squad dynamics in general did not sit well with me. I would've liked more abilities like Ash's Teleport or Limbo's time control as opposed to abilities that clear an entire room of enemies with one click. Overall, the devs just gradually stopped adding options for stealth gameplay and, although I still love the worldbuilding, the questlines gradually lost their quality (only New War can hold a candle to Second Dream and War Within, and solely on the gameplay front - not so much on the story front. Not to mention Chains of Harrow, which was simply phenomenal but unfortunately one of a kind). I'll always think fondly of the good times I had with this game because they were truly expertly done, but overall it's just not for me anymore :(

The issue my video makes with this isn’t about the threat itself, but how it’s executed and where it’s executed. I don’t like how the setting resembles a different game more than Warframe. With this type of reasoning, we could put the man in the wall inside fnaf and it’d make sense, and I think that’s really stupid. I don’t hate the man in the wall or going after him, I hate how it’s executed which I make clear in the video. Secondly, saying petty faction conflict is insane, when the entirety of the Warframe universe takes place in the origin system, except the Tua system. Implying that it’s petty conflict, and not the destruction of everything known in the universe is just nonsensical and incorrect. The Tenno were revived because the Grineer were fully conquering the entire system, and genociding every non Grineer. That’s petty?? I just have to disagree with you there, but I respect your opinion if you don’t think that’s a big deal, or a threat to the entire Warframe universe.

I do know what inspired means lmao. The point is it’s incredibly similar, are you disagreeing with that? I’m kind of confused. I don’t think it’s literally dark sector, just heavily inspired with a warframe twist like the dev lead herself said

Hey I’m glad that’s what you’re into! Have fun with it!🙂

I don’t think you understood the main issue this video is talking about, which is completely okay, so I’ll explain it here for you. My issue with 1999, which I think I lay out very explicitly in the second part of my video regarding the dark sector. Is that it inherently does not feel like Warframe. The culture, setting and everything doesn’t fit within the universe. They’re excuse for this, is that it’s a different dimension where the man in the wall may be stopped, but I personally think that’s lazy writing, because that would allow you to say the man in the wall is in five nights at Freddy’s and that’s where we have to go next. I want 1999 to connect to the origin system and the void in more ways than just, Wally is here. A better example of connecting something is the Plains of eidolon. The sentient corpses present make sense regarding pre-created lore to the update, the Grineer presence makes sense, and it’s communicated to us before we enter the plains there are instances of groups holding out against the Grineer. When it comes to 1999 no pre established lore fits in correctly to make it make sense, besides just the very most recent updates with entrati. When I mention what we could of gotten, I’m talking about why moving the story away from the origin universe is such a large problem. There’s so many unanswered questions, and instead of being in a position to answer them, where just in a completely different universe that’s more inspired by a different game than warframe itself according to the developers themselves.

I wholeheartedly disagree, and I’d love to see your take why you think this way?

I’m glad Warframe is still getting new players after all this time, and I do hope you enjoy the update, regardless of my opinions on it!

@@kookthekid8338 So do I, but it's probably gonna be a while, since I need to finish Duviri first and that prime resurgence event is tickeling my monkey brain...

Yeah I agree with this, I was just being funny there with throwing things at dark sector since it did underperform, however, the dark sector hate in relevance to how they’re claiming 1999 wouldn’t even exist without it, is kind of concerning to me, which is why I did talk about it so much

@@kookthekid8338 i'd say they call back to dark sector for a LOT of Warframe's later, and original, development and not just 1999 specifically.

I absolutely agree with that, but you also have to acknowledge how much more they do that in 1999, to the point they’re saying that 1999 wouldn’t exist if they didn’t look back and get inspired by dark sector. They said 1999 was dark sector inspired but uniquely warframe. So because of what we’re seeing, and because what DE has said, I think it’s a fair take to say they’re taking way more from dark sector than maybe since Warframe was created.

I hope so!

I appreciate your comment, but I think you missed the point of my video by looking at your first paragraph. I understand the Man in the Wall is the big bad, he is one of the biggest issues and villains in the game right now, I’m questioning the decision to make you got into the past in a different dimension, somewhere that doesn’t look like it belongs in Warframe, and the inclusion of a dating sim, while ignoring the original system you’ve created. Why wouldn’t we confront Wally in the void we know, or bring back tower keys or something. Why is going back to some random destination in 1999 the answer?? Point being, DE could tell us that Wally was in a Chucky Cheese and that we need to defend ourselves from horror animatronics to defeat him, and you’re argument could still defend that, which I don’t think is a good thing. For all three of your other points, about hunhow, the elder Queen and Parvos, I don’t understand them? You’re saying they’re not important because nothings happening with them right now, and I mean yeah, that’s my problem? Things won’t happen in the game unless DE codes them in and gives solutions, so I’m confused by why you’re saying nothing is developing in those stories. And I mean some are going on 7 years without being updated, which is more than half the time Warframe has existed. You said the queens haven’t found a body, I agree, how have they not? Grineer have killed and captured Tenno before. Hunhow lost everything, but he also thought he already lost everything when initially fighting the Tenno with stalker. Sure he could off himself, but I think it’d make more sense for him to try to make it back home or something. The Parvos take over seems pretty pressing to me, because I mean it’s actively happening I think, or suppose to be. I believe frohd Bek has dialogue yelling to eject part of his ship, which could mean he lived or not. Regardless of the outcome, I think it’s weird that we haven’t seen the most powerful corpus in the game, or at least who was the most powerful corpus in the game. In all I respect your opinion, and I’m happy you’re enjoy the update. Obviously I’m in the minority, and since I do like Warframe, I’m happy it seems to be doing well, even if it isn’t something I particularly like! However, I think saying my dislike is misguided is just incorrect, when I feel like I laid out my issues with the story pretty well.

@@kookthekid8338 Hey wanting to shoot you back a comment to apologize. My original comment was anger pointed back at anger and I really shouldn't do that. I want to say sorry for the original comment. Honestly I don't know what to really say since this has recently came out, so we're all kinda in new territory with stuff that still going on, that hasn't been concluded which is leaving us with baggage. They want to currently probably focus on the Tenno vs Wally but also develop us as a character? I don't really know what all to say. Sorry for leaving a angry comment on your vid.

@@cooldudeninja0219 No apology needed at all. When disagreeing with someone it's absolutely normal to get a little bit emotional, like how I was in this video, and even a little bit in my response to you! No hard feelings at all, and I appreciate your comment and insight on your thoughts regarding the new update!

Yeah this is by far more worst dislike to like ration! However, I’m really happy by the conversations it’s generating in my comments here, and besides for one or two comments everyone has had respectful takes, which is impressive! I don’t like the story the update is heading in, and I think it’s goofy, and I personally think I did a great job explaining my gripes in this video, I stand by it completely. This video was meant to release sometime before the update actually dropped, however DE jumpscared me by announcing the update was coming today, so I had to push out the video hours before the update. No one knew it was dropping today, at least I didn’t, which led to my video dropping when it did.

Why am I not the brightest? I’d love to hear your explanation!

I respect your opinion, but I disagree, I obviously do care about the lore, and disagree with your take that I shouldn’t be able to comment on my thoughts on the story direction because I’m not the one making the game. I’m a fan, and someone who enjoys the game a lot, so the idea that I shouldn’t be allowed to talk about what I disagree with or like about the game because I’m not directing it is really strange. If I was somehow forcing DE to change their story with this video, you’d have a point, but I can’t, I’m just explaining why I don’t like the direction they’re going in, but obviously DE can make the game however they want, I don’t own it. People have public opinions over things they can’t control and don’t own everyday, I mean almost 99% of the internet is that. Anyway, as I said in the video, DE always delivers with gameplay and that was never a concern! Glad you’re enjoying the update

Lmao I’m glad I brought you joy! And while I was yapping, everyone single video anyone makes could be classified as yapping. I stand by my points and don’t like where the story is heading though!

I don’t even know what to think about that lmao😭 that’s such an insane thing to include to me, though I think the dating sim is even more out of place personally

@kookthekid8338 everyone wants to leave their own lil shitty imprint so bad they destroy a neat thing instead of improving it.

This video is not attention baiting in the sense I presented something I don’t agree with, because I stand by every single take in this video 100%. However, this is TH-cam, and the point of every single video everyone posts is to get attention, so in essence I guess you’re right?

@kookthekid8338 so everythingi you Just Said IS irrelevant i get IT

W custom character enjoyer

I think I make defensible and reasonable points! You can absolutely disagree, but I believe saying it’s rage bait is just wrong

Honestly I think this was a great comment, and I agree with a lot of what you said. When it comes to your final bit about putting it out before engaging with 1999, it’s because this video was made awhile ago, and was going to be released this same exact away, just days before the update actually came out so there wouldn’t be confusion. Unfortunately for me, DE pulled the, this update drops tomorrow, which made me hurry up and finish the video editing and release this video before the update came out, because this video was made to talk about the direction of the story, and why I really don’t like it, regardless of how fun 1999 might be to play.

@@kookthekid8338 Yeah, it really just a cluster of bad timing and charged feelings. The charge that 1999 is a spiritual successor to Dark Sector as the main component of your video is sound, I think. I'm sure we'll see parallels to Technocyte (beyond Cyte-09's name), enferon, alongside the already present Soviet Block-inspired setting, and more all point to Dark Sector. And I don't think it's interesting. I'll probably long in after the weekend and some patches smooth things out to see for firsthand. If you really want to get red-string conspiratorial about it, the Dark Sector game was free late in November. It's all connected!

I am! I guess I have a unique opinion and stance on the Warframe story!

Actually guys, this dude is super wrong, and you should watch through the video three times. 😂

It is lore wise, it just has incredibly heavy dark sector influence!

@@kookthekid8338 Sorry I meant to say Dark Sector and not 1999. Just connect them both instead of pussyfooting around it.

@@TheStrayHALOMAN Ohh okay I got you now lmao!

the indifference has been a major part of the story since it's introduction. the sentients and the new war aftermath can wait, dealing with albrecht's plan is far more important right now considering how it's changing our reality as we speak. cant really deal with the sentients when techrot has began to emerge into the present timeline, something happening only because of albrecht's time fuckery

It’s felt pretty unnatural to me as well which is part of the reason I ended up making this video

I hope so!

I wholeheartedly disagree this is rage bait, and if you watch the video I think you’ll find defensible points, even if you don’t agree with them. However, giving something you think is just rage bait a 4/10 is pretty good, so thanks I think lmao🙂

I’m not invested in the story because I think hunhow wanting to go back to get reinforcements, or at the very least complete some sort of action, one that could help his son even, is something that should be done? You think him just offing himself is the right answer to that story? I mean it could be if done right, I don’t know if I like it personally because suicide has touched everyone and I’m not sure how that’d go over with the audience, but it could be written in a way to make sense.

@@kookthekid8338 literally not what i was saying? hunhow was waiting for the new war to end he was fully contempt with never leaving if the war didn't end. hunhow also has no reason to try and help erra since he is ALREADY DEAD removing the archon shard will only stop pazuul temporarily as soon as he gets another shard he can revive himself