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Zion Evangelical-Lutheran Church of Detroit (ZionDetroit)
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2015
Zion Evangelical-Lutheran Church in Detroit, Michigan is a parish in the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church and a member of the Evangelical-Lutheran Church. She is affiliated with the English District of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.
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"Protestanten"...Nicht zu glauben, wie groß die Verwirrung in der katholischen Kirche durch die konziliare Liturgiezerstörung geworden ist...
This was 5 years ago...what's going on with it now ?
Bring peace to all watching and all who made this service possible. Thank You for the choir members, God be with them :)
Thank You for this service, and these people
The Mass is supposed to be about Word and Sacrament. It was thus extremely disappointing when the sound got cut when the pastor began to speak.
beautiful divine service, wish there were any churches this reverent in my city
Our loved Lutheran brothers n sisters we are all of Christ not Luther or Catholic
"Mary"..."ever-virgin"... really? Thought you were true Lutherans? Let's keep Orthodox Lutheran Worship truly Orthodox
Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary; same with Calvin.
I am familiar with the Anglo Catholic branch of the Episcopal/Anglican church but was not aware of the Lutheran version of “High Church”. In any case, beautiful service.
I’ll pray for you, protestant heretics
Beautiful Mass. I recently made a video on Lutheranism on my channel and featured this parish if you want to take a look.
For whatever reason this was on my home page “recommended for me” today.... in 2024! Shout out to those Lutheran High Westland singers! 😊
This is similar to a Solemn High Mass in the Episcopal Church. I see that they borrowed the English gradual for the propers.
I miss the traditional vestments i haven't seen much of them in yrs ,even in our Lutheran Church.. our church hasn't even rang the church bells in 20 yrs ..i know they work but we have a vary small membership...i still go to my childhood church .when i go back up north. For a visit.from Florida
These hymn can be found in TLH no 264 preserve They Word, O Savior. LSB 658.
I love to see this tradition Thanks be to he True Redeemer.
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What is the man doing with the incens?
I am a life long LCMS, never knew a pastor called a Father
Hi Karen Good afternoon. I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌺🌺🌺
same here. I am Catholic, but i know many Lutherans. I have Lutheran friends, including some LCMS Pastors. Grew up in a Lutheran neighborhood. All Lutherans I have ever known use the title Pastor the way we use the title Father.
We refer to our pastor as 'Pastor' however his occupation is Priest.
This type of high mass , would in my mind drew many faithful back to the church.. Lutheran Church here? I never seen type in the ELCA in my church but i believe it would benefit our church in declining membership...this is a wounderful service ..
I left the ELCA . They should not even call themselves Lutheran!
@@willoooooooob9 I left ELCA as well. Nothing Lutheran or Christian about them.
This is a confessional LCMS church.
I want branch of this here in Tanzania. I hope also this one doesn't Ordain women to be Bishop and pesters!
In Tanzania there is KKAM
no! They don't ordain women as that is prohibited in the writings of St Paul. Women function well in other vocations but the churches where they are ordained, are dying.
I thought some of the Anglo Catholic liturgies I've attended could outcatholic the RC Church but wow! I've never seen women wearing the mantilla at any of them even. And the amount of the liturgy that is chanted. Just wow!
This is what Lutheranism is all about. (Currently choking up up 😅 at 5:44) Blessed be the Lord Almighty, who is truly present in the mass, purified by the gospel. Not a tradition of man. This is why I kneel before the altar. Not because im trying to be more Roman Catholic, but because He promises us in his word that He is present. Also the clergy wearing traditional vestments, not because we are trying to be more Roman Catholic, but because we should not unnecessarily change things of the office of the clergy (as the laity) just to be less catholic as possible. We also hold to the vestments because it is told that the saints in heaven are clothed in white robes and worship the Lord with liturgy. "Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord God, Almighty, heaven and earth are full of Your glory" I pray for a revival of the fullness of gospel and church history in Christianity.
It was a reformation. Not a replacement.
Yes just to "reform" the Roman Catholic religion
@@Gospel_Street_Preacheryes there was no other church but the orthodox and Roman Catholic Church at that time unless you consider the Moravian Church which technically was still Roman catholic
Thank you for chanting the preface. A Lutheran pastor, now deceased, used to chant the preface. I told some Catholic friends about the preface being chanted. I recognized the chant when I visited a Croatian Catholic Church. I also heard it chanted in Latin when I visited an SSPX congregation. Those 2 Visits took place 30 years ago. In recent times I visited a congregation, which celebrates the Tridentine Mass, or Extraordinary Latin Mass, with the approval of the Vatican. And I’ve heard the same chant. I wish the chanting of the preface was more 1:10:31 common in the Lutheran church. I had to do a search to find your service in which the preface was chanted.
Too bad the ordinations of this are invalid, as well as the "communion".
Ah yes, here comes the one who knows God’s Will & Grace.
@@joshuawashington758Telling you guys you’re right doesn’t help either as it keeps you that way. If you want people to change, you point out what they’re doing wrong and correct them.
True. Borrowing the Catholic ritual, gutting the theology and orders does not get you the same thing.
@@stevenstuart4194 This liturgy seems more catholic than what you guys have going on nowadays. We do not need heterodox theology to have a beautiful, reverent worship service.
The ordinations are valid as far as Scripture goes. We Lutherans don't care about your opinion, we have valid sacraments even if Rome may not recognize that.
What hymns are being sung in the video? They're quite beautiful but I couldn't find them by looking up the words I was able to hear.
The first hymn is I Will Arise and Go to Jesus, late 18th century. It's from the wonderful Sacred Harp collection s of 200 years ago. The last is a sh6mn etting of Samuel Barber's famous Adagio.
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This is so informative , and very helpful to one who has come lately to the Lutheran faith .
Where's the sound for the sermon ?
Truly Catholic and truly Orthodox.
What a shame to see the lutheran church going back to Catholic! This is what Luther got us away from! You don’t need all that parading down the aisle!
Luther did no such thing
This is exactly how Luther would have celebrated the mass!
This is way closer to how Luther would've celebrated the Eucharist. His Formula Missae almost identical to the Latin Mass in Structure, Visual form and Solemnity. Of course Lutheranism has liturgically expanded in expression and form as time when on, but if we're talking about how Lutherans would've had it back then in his time... Then this is very close. My fellow Protestants, y'all literally don't need to let your anti-papism cause you to be revisionist about your liturgical histories.
A better statement would be what a shame the Lutheran/protestantism became so anti-catholic. Christ and his church is, has always been and should still be catholic. Luther attempted to reformed, not replace. This video is the greatest example of the mass as described in the confessions. Luther would approve, especially if a bishop was present, like this. I pray that you please meditate on the gospel and really dig deep into theology. Test everything by the Spirit. Look to reformed, methodist, baptist, Roman Catholic, Lutheran etc. Read the early church fathers. I pray you find which theology is the most true and attains the fullness of the gospel for yourself.
What are you saying? I assume then your Lutheranism was developed here in America by immigrants who had no pastors and unfortunately took up the customers of the predominant "reformed protestants" of this country and lost their Lutheran faith and practice.
Catholic but not roman.😁😁
No is protestant (Lutherian).
Wow, this is more catholic than even some of the Roman Catholic parishes! Wish more Lutheran parishes had traditional liturgy like this!
Its catholic but not roman.
@@chelseajohnson5575 thank you, someone has to say it
@@that39warguy6 your welcome.
This is celebrated in Lutheran liturgical tradition. Much was lost in the immigration to America in the 18th and 19th centuries where the Lutheran immigrants were without ordained clergy to lead them and in attempting to "blend in" to their new country, adopted many of the predominant "reformed protestant traditions", unfortunately losing their Lutheran liturgical traditions and Lutheran liturgical practices. Lutherans, unlike others, never abandoned the Mass at the Reformation.
It's not Catholic - the theology of the Eucharist was removed in the 16th century. It's just the husk of the Tridentine Mass without the Theology of the Mass.
Beautiful .
This is the most blasphemous display of “pretend” that I have ever witnessed! This is something that is beyond explanation. A ELCA Lutheran Church playing a vernacular, watered-down version of the Roman Catholic Tridentine Mass. Aping all things Catholic, and eliminating the theology and the authentic ability for transubstantiation!, This is not ecumenical, it is disgraceful. I just skimmed through this masquerade, to actually see what was going on. My thought throughout was “who are they trying to kid?” May God have mercy on their souls! Any responses to this will be ignored with do defense. That would be an actual endorsement as if this thing had any merit! This does, however, beg the question: do they have a faux-Catholic Mass for the dead? That would call into play a book of the Old Testament that Luther, et all, threw out! But they obviously have no respect for technicalities!
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Well... Three things. 1. This is an LCMS Parish not an ELCA. most Lutherans in general outside the ELCA would still call themselves "Evangelical Lutherans" (Many also call themselves "Evangelical Catholics") as it is literally downstream from their roots in Germany (except the most of the Nordic Lutherans. Their situation is a lil unique). 2. This is way closer to how Luther would've celebrated the Eucharist. His Formula Missae incrediblely close to the Latin Mass in visual form and solemnity as it's quite literally the kind of worship he grew up with. Of course Lutheranism has liturgically expanded in expression and form as time when on, but if we're talking about how Lutherans would've had it back then in his time... Then this is more close. The current Divine Service used by the Lutherans make this kind of high solemn liturgical expression completely acceptable. This is isn't an "Imitation" of TLM. To say otherwise is ahistorical. They're not trying to be ecumenical by embracing that same liturgical form. 3. Lutherans already believe in the physical presence of Christ in the Eucharist in the form of Sacramental Union. Dunno why you think it's some kind of capitulation to transubstantiation when they already have a Eucharistic theology of their own. If you think their theology's wrong that's one thing, but just because you're not aware of High Protestant Liturgical history doesn't mean we're trying to copy Rome or get on Rome's "good side". (Also you can literally look up Luther's bible, the Deuterocanonical books & the Prayer of Manasseh are still in there) The least you do is treat our Lutheran siblings in Christ with more respect and charity before you start rushing to accuse them of something as grave and severe as blasphemy 😅
Article XXIV of the Lutheran Augusburg Confession // Of the Mass: "Falsely are our churches accused of abolishing the Mass; for the Mass is retained among us, and celebrated with the highest reverence. Nearly all the usual ceremonies are also preserved, save that the parts sung in Latin are interspersed here and there with German hymns, which have been added to teach the people. For ceremonies are needed to this end alone that the unlearned be taught [what they need to know of Christ]. And not only has Paul commanded to use in the church a language understood by the people 1 Cor. 14:2-9, but it has also been so ordained by man’s law."
THIS would be my church if I lived nearby . Father Braden is a saintly Father .
very true even me I need it here in Tanzania
Young people !! Inexpressively beautiful , like the saints in heaven .
Whence Father Peterson came ? I love the fact that some of the women are wearing head coverings . I follow this practice and find that scripture and church tradition support it .
Such a beautiful church, so sad there arent more people attending.
Holy cow, they even use the same chants as in the High Catholic Mass! I didn’t know there were high services in the Lutheran church
Now you know 😂 but know the Lutheran religion is just as false as Roman Catholicism. Same false sacramental salvation
@@Gospel_Street_Preacher Nope. The Baptist churches are actually promoting false doctrine. Lutherans and Catholics follow the Bible.
ELCA ?
LCMS
Haha no, far be it!
Absolutely not ELCA.
ELCA is not liturgical bro LCMS is more liturgical and traditional than you. LCMS and WELS pure of Lutherans and ELCA no. ELCA is LGBT's Church😂😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭
Why are you blocking &ava and TH-cam from captioning? I turned &ava, a standalone desktop captioning app (software), to run the transcript. Nothing happens. Similar experience on Trinity Sunday clip when I start to view for first time yesterday. I run system check and I was fine when other presentation broadcast their voice, permitting captioning mode to run. Now, when I go to LCMS TH-camrs like Revs. WolfMueller, Cooper, Fisk, The Higher Things, LCMS, as well several other theological sites, it works fine. Unblock yours, please.
Breath Roy Axel Rose, breath….
I do not believe if this is lutheran...
It very much is. Fr. Mark Braden is ordained in the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, and Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church in Detroit is of the highest calibre of conservative, Confessional, Historical, and Liturgical Lutheranism. But indeed, it is a rare breed as many have succumbed to either theological liberalism and/or the influences of American Evangelicalism. Lord have mercy!
It is. Just as some Lutheran areas made it to the 1800's before abandoning the Latin ordinary of the Liturgy, some congregations today have services nearly identical to Catholic services, which was one of the goals from the beginning.
@@intensity33 Amen. Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church - Detroit is a member congregation of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod's English District. Her pastor, Fr. Braden, is my seminary classmate. English District's current bishop, Rev. Dr. Jamison Hardy, graduated from Concordia Theological Seminary - Fort Wayne a few years before Braden and I did. What is recorded here in this service is closer to what Martin Luther would have recognized than what passes as "Lutheran" in this country.
Believe ;) the truth shall set you free...
Why not? They are retaining the Mass as the Augsburg Confession says.
It’s nice to see the Eucharistic prayer within a confessional Lutheran mass
Yes
Amen +++
Yo creo en la Iglesia Católica Apostólica y Romana.
Los del vídeo solo son inmitadores
@@demeter120 o sea, son los verdaderos catolicos. Estar de acuerdo con el papa, obispo de roma, no se hace catolico. Defender la fe de los apostoles, junto con tradiciones puras y basadas en la misma fe, eso sí es verdaderamente catolico.
@@pjwg Estoy de acuerdo con usted. Las opiniones de un Papa y de un obispo tienen que ir acorde con los evangelios y la tradición. En cambio sí el papa y los obispos tienen opiniones que contradicen los evangelios y la tradición apostólica entonces es un falso religioso.
What district is president hall of
I hope they reach out to visitors with Christ's love . The last video there was a young couple in the pews at the end of service and no one was welcoming them .
I am sorry that that happened. Christians don't always practice what they say they do.
Everyone at Zion is greeted upon entering the building by the usher(s) and greeted upon leaving the nave by the entire procession. It's practically impossible to leave the building without shaking hands with 5 people on a normal Sunday (or in this case-- 12 people). The proper rubric for entering the nave is to "kneel in prayer" (IE silently) and the proper rubric for leaving the nave is to "depart in silence," which is why you won't see anybody greeting in the nave-- greeting occurs in the narthex (the room you enter when you walk in the front door of the building). These practices are printed in the ordos (bulletins) you see people holding during the service.
I hope someone reached out to that young couple in the pew ! I would have !!
Why would this traditional church go in for the LSB ?
what is LSB¿
@@mudgebauermaybe it’s Lutheran Service Book ??