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@@slateraudio Hi sire is there a part where you fix the signal? Do you make it flat and follow house curve?

@@slateraudio My coherence (magnitude especially in bass) is always low and i tried to edit the Mag threshold also changed and played with fft16. What are your tips for that? I calibrated my mic with digital calibrator 94db and also tried 114db. Thank you.

@@avia4281yeah , typically I’ll run it with auto eq in REW and export the eqs , then ears to upstream L+R eq to get spectral balance right Or use the eq in OpenDrc for ear work.

Inputs don’t master Its 8ch of Dirac correction and 12 channels of output So yes you’ll have more then plenty of correction You only need 2 Dirac correction channels I would do 4 2 Dirac correction on fronts and sub 2 on rears, and then use the output filters to pre-tune it and get the phase coherent first and then do two channels of direc over everything

Yes , in 2x4hd mode or 2x8 mode yes , as long as not Dirac, manual FIR blows Dirac away badly, but must use smaart to get the data , REW won’t give good results Must have dual channel fft to get good phase data

@@slateraudio thank you for your answer! I am still trying to wrap my head around this. I read somewhere that with rephase the crossovers had to be -24lr. I will watch your video again! Will opensoundmeter work as well?

⁠crossovers never HAVE to be LR, never… you are free to choose what works best for you. LR4 has good behavior, but there are others that also do

Yes I just tried it , ich leibe so sehr !!! Danke

The 1st preset was all in driver seat This customer wanted a passenger side tune , (I think he makes his wife drive on long trips) Also , the Dirac tune yet is good , isn’t anywhere near as good as a mult mic array in smaart. But still pretty good. Its phase correction works nice tho. I noticed almost no difference weather tuning in or out of the car, in some ways its better out because the body isn’t blocking reflections that otherwise needed to be in the measurements. Apples to apples , I heard no difference weather in or out of car, and that’s with a few hundred different cars I’ve done with Dirac

All pass filter

He’ll yeah

It’s the same exact version as a home avr …. It works decent in a car

It’s a 35$ batter powered fan from eBay , I removed the fan then put the mic clip on

Lol … indeed it is 😈

Yes it would be even more powerful then these. Although the OpenDrc is a room correction dsp for 2ch … This is a driver correction DSP that also handles the room aspects, this one can’t correct in FIR below about 100hz… I have a video showing the OpenDrc in my videos. The OpenDrc will net similar results as I am doing, you just have a much much harder time getting all of your channels to track phase the same. The helix is very capable. So yes , you’ll net the same type of sound.

Helix P SIX DSP ULTIMATE. Worth it. Don't contemplate.

@@Alastasius Price and models for least expensive 6 channel. Looking for hdmi version 5.1 channel like minidsp.

​@@avia4281 Why HDMI?

@@Alastasius I’m using pc 4070ti to denon avr 5.1 channel.

Not sure what u mean You can use the 8x12DL in a home with a simple 12V wall wart that can do 10A It’s actually really easy and it will be perfectly quiet

Hi what’s the cheapest pre amp with 6 channel in and out via rca or amp with sub out. Thank you sir.

It’s a customer car , it’s DL. Contact support@minidsp.com

No worries. Remember an APF needs to be a frequency dependent delay and the phase needs to be one cycle out If it’s just a quick delay an APF isn’t needed

Smaart v9

God dammit lol. I wish I didn't have to pay the better part of a grand to do live phase.

This is before any crossover filters. It’s easiest to “see phase” with no filters. Crossovers off is where system phasing should be done. Thanks. Yes I keep them as reference to help answer questions that pop up.

@@slateraudio When capturing tweeter traces, do you use pseudorandom on SMAART and just set freq start range at a higher freq but below probable xover cut offs or do you still do random pink noise but at a lower level since you do phasing with xovers off. Thanks for the video. just getting started on SMAART

Colorado , Denver metro

I have update my mic array now to 4 earthworks M23R mics

Yeah Dirac does a fine job at summing crossovers… yes it’s very good

That it’s not complete ? There nothing wrong with it , the car won in comps … It keeps the minimum phase in the crossover, it works tremendously good

It’s on rephase.org

The 8x12DL , that one is very good Don’t get the harmony The low level conversion is goofy

@@slateraudio Thanks bro. If I get the one with DL, and one day I decide to manually tune the system (without Dirac), will I be able to do that? Asking because I'm still not sure of how the whole workflow works.

@@AnasSuhaimi Yes with outputs But you’ll want to use Dirac

@@slateraudio Thanks again, man. May god bless you for your help.

@@slateraudio Bro, it's me again. I've been considering your advice, and been finding non-DSP amplifier solutions to pair it with C-DSP 8x12 DL is very challenging. 1. I need 12 or at least 10 channels amplified, so that's either 2 units of 6 channel amp, or 6+4 channels, or 4+4+2. It either gets expensive, or take a lot of space. 2. Using TPA3255 boards meant for home theater call for the use of bulky 12v to 36v DC boost converter. And the cost of 2 pieces of 6xTPA3255 boards + 2 boost converter is not cheap either. Plus it doesn't have all the noise and clipping protections. So I'm wondering what do you mean by the "low level conversion is goofy" for the Harmony one? The harmony unit only takes USB input and also SPDIF. There's no low-level input. Are you talking about the low-level output?

As many as you want, if you wanted the dsp to be a sub only dsp , we’ll there’s 12ch and 8ch of Dirac live So 8 sub locations and 12 total amplifier ch

@@slateraudio can I do 9 subs or is 8 the limit to use with Dirac live? Or should I just buy 2 of these and use them on 2 of my sub out on my AVR?

@@BIGBASSSAMA_4 You can use as many as you want, you only can use 8 Dirac ch So that’s 8 locations in the room , tech location you can hook up multiple amps and have as many subs as you can fit and fed off each ch using a pre amp This Unit does 12ch of audio , that’s 12 rca jacks into amps , and 8ch Dirac ch You can split the ch and add more , make since It’s over kill tho and I don’t recommend it but , you can

@@slateraudio u don't recommend using 8 to 9 subs u mean?

@@BIGBASSSAMA_4 I would analyze the room and see what you actually need If you just want loud , then I can’t help you This is for sound quality

Actually no it shouldn’t….. The speakers are to the sides, that’s about 30deg ish that’s mic pointing straight forward , tilting mic up adds a tiny bit more… all the way up is fine also , because in a car , it’s reverbant field is pretty intense, there’s sound coming from all directions , so it doesn’t matter where the mic is pointing and only affects about 1db in the very top octave… In a free filed Situation we know the exact source of the sound so a cal file is important to use the correct one, in a highly reflective field, a cal file of zero or 90 will work with mic pointing about any which way you want in a 180 deg x and y axis pattern…. As Long as mic isn’t pointing to the back window the polar response of the mic is of no concern as well…

It’s a full Dirac 8ch tune Dirac does TA , gains , and eq and phase correction I used 2nd order APF with crossovers off , measured all drivers Made entirety of response the driver can do with crossovers off follow same target, after measurements, turn off all pass filters and turn crossovers on The APF is q.7 AP2 centered at where the crossover will be , that makes Dirac see a crossover and correct the phase shift of the crossover, even tho the crossover isn’t applied yet

@@slateraudio can't wait to get my cdsp 8/12 in and tuned

@@slateraudio how would you rate the overall sound quality compared to let's say a helix or any others along those lines?

@@mountain.audio247 Better in most cases because Dirac can do some time alignment per frequency and remove group delay , where helix can’t But that entirely depends on the system and tuner , no replacement for proper install and placement and execution…. So a helix can be very good , this is probably miles and miles better for a novice tuner with unequal path lengths

​@slateraudio hey bro...am havingbhell getting the dirac to (hear) the impulse signal...keeps.saying too much back ground noise ..any help? Can u dona remote tune?