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Yeah it might not have been the best of decisions to jump into UE. I guess we’ll see in the (near) future.

I got the same cpu and gpu and I don’t get stutters in WRC 😱

As long as you have something to play! 😊

I know I should but my brain probably turns off because I never remember to do that! 🤦🏼‍♂️ I really need to learn to do that

@@Finns_in_Simland I think RBR stands out from other driving games so much, that it's almost counter-intuitive in the way it handles! You kind of have to think what a car would do IRL and try to forget what you usually do in other games. :D And to make things even harder, the engine in the cars wants to stall if you don't use the clutch under heavy braking even if you go to first gear. So the game wants you to use heel-toe/clutch, it's pretty brutal but so rewarding too!

To be honest I don't pay that much attention to far away stuff. :) And I think it is just the colours that make me so excited and think the game looks better! It's such a breath of fresh air of the brownness of EA WRC. EA WRC does also have these snow banks that could very well be concrete. If I remember correct, rally Scandia is filled with these. I haven't really played it that much because I almost hate the location due to that fact. :D

I wish you all the best in your endeavours in RBR! It is a great game! Leaderboardeilla tavataan! 😎

@@Finns_in_Simland Likewise! 💪(Todellaki, mun nicki siellä on turbo_go_go 😆)

@@Finns_in_Simland I wrote a comment here but it disappeared I think (?), weird! Mutta joo, mä oon turbo_go_go RBRssä, siellä nähään! 😁

Mullaki välillä häviää vastaukset näkyvistä, mutta muutaman kerran ku päivittää ni tulee taas näkyviin. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Pistetään nimi mieleen! 😏😂

@@Finns_in_Simland Juu 😆

It's so fun to try to balance the oversteer and understeer in RBR with RWD cars, it's so easy to make the car understeer and then you just go "yeah I f'd up" and then you slide in to the ditch, but when you get everything right it feels so rewarding, love it!

In RBR it sure feels all the time that I am in control, and any mistake was due to me. In EA WRC with the RWD that is just not the case. I haven't tried RWD cars yet in DR 2.0 but maybe one day I'll muster the courage to do just that. :)

The handbrake and shifter? Just fine. No problems whatsoever.

​@Finns_in_Simland FFB on the base ? Do you have any suggestions for settings ? I'm getting back into rallying and have already discounted the idea of WRC for now, and I already have DR2. ... I have an R5 but soon getting an R12.

I’m using Fanatec CS DD base (12Nm) and that is set to maximum and in-game I’ve dropped the FFB to 80%. Otherwise I’m using default settings in DR2 because I’ve played it so little so far.

Unfortunately I haven’t tried that so can’t compare the two of them 😂

Making the colours pop out more would do wonders. I don’t mind graphics that much overall since the driving feels so good and the force feedback is great

Thanks! 😅

And the force feedback!

@@Finns_in_Simland yeah true

Yep you are 100% right about that. These cars were handful in real life. I should start to drive these like they used to do in real life. 100% respect to those drivers who drove those monsters!

@@Finns_in_Simland Well, this is the right spirit 👍😁. Good luck for your endeavour!

I’ll keep this in mind!

It’s all so brown in WRC by comparison 😭

2.0 looks great on PC with the mod which removes the daytime fog, I don't see any pop-in at all except for maybe Poland. 2.0 roads are so detailed compared to WRC.

I agree, wrc often looks either dull and dark, or bright and washed out

I’d really like to see more camber in the roads in WRC

I think WRC has more challenging courses which is why they have made the cars easier to control.

😂 I try to keep it clean for the videos. Although sometimes it is very, very difficult. 😂

Yeah probably what I tried to communicate! I try my best with my very limited vocabulary. :D It is so hard to try to form sentences that make sense when it's not your first language while also trying to focus on the driving as well. :D Excuses, excuses, I know :D

@@Finns_in_Simland oh I wasn't complaining, your English is fine by me and your driving is better than mine too

Bar ain’t that high since I’ve heard that is unplayable in WRC

@@Finns_in_Simland It's a bit of a mess to say the least lol.

If nothing else the rally games are a lot of fun!

Fair enough!

I agree, I think people prefer the graphics on Dirt Rally 2 due to being much more colourful. I think EA deserve more credit for how much content they included in this game compared to Dirt Rally 2. It has as many stages as Dirt rally 2 has after all the DLC and much longer stages. They also didn't just recycle stages like other games do.

It might very well be that. The colours are so much more vibrant in DR2.0 which makes EA WRC look so dull in comparison

I agree on pretty much everything you say. Except that I can't really compare that much to DR2.0 since I have very limited hours in it. :) Like you said the sense of speed is a bit too much in DR2.0 compared to EA WRC. It feels too fast. And then we have RBR in which it feels too slow. :D EA WRC hits the sweet spot pretty much in my opinion. I do like how tarmac feels in RBR, and not so much in EA WRC. Granted it is an improvement over DR2.0 but I do wish rally sims would improve in this regard. I don't like to drive the tarmac rallies that much in EA WRC just because of how it feels. I was just yesterday comparing the FFB between DR2.0 and EA WRC and the difference is huge. I hadn't really paid that much attention to it in my videos so far but when I started to pay attention to it, well, it's hard to not pay attention to it anymore. :D I love the longer stages in EA WRC. Especially the Chile stages. I guess I need to try to tune the RWD cars to see if I can get a start to enjoy them. Currently, I pretty much hate them and try to never drive them. With the default setup they spin way too easily and most of the time it feels next to impossible to catch the rear before it's too late. In RBR I'm at least able to drive them unlike in EA WRC. :) There's too many too big cuts to be taken in many stages and I do not like that at all. I don't really do time trials anymore (unless driving with friends), and most of my time is spent on clubs these days. :)

@@Finns_in_Simland 1. For RWD cars you need to tune them for heavy understeer in EA WRC to drive fast and needs a lot of throttle management but driving them is fantastic. 2. I actually despise the FFB of RBR... I feel completely disconnected from the road... I cannot feel at all where the edge of grip is or when I am going over it and the understeer is so intense that I have to swing my wheel like a maniac to even make the car slide which is not how it should be... whenever you see a tight corner on RBR you almost have to break down to zero cause the car won't turn if you're carrying any kind of speed... it's horrible... of course all the RBR fanboys will say "skill issue" but my skills are fine... I know how to drive a rally car, the car in RBR just won't let me goddamn drive it. Doing a scandi flick in RBR is a pain in the ass cause the car is dead and won't swing in most cases unless I severely overdo it... which means I have very little control and precision in my driving which sucks and is NOT realistic (no matter what fanboys tell you) 3. I agree about the huge cuts in EA WRC and the devs are aware which is why in the new rallies (poland/latvia) they made the limits very strict and you can't cut almost anywhere. But there are a lot of rallies where cheating and corner cutting is pretty much the name of the game... but in clubs there are a ton of cheaters too... people who run world record times on every stage somehow which is bullshit... nobody's that good without cheating...

@@sportschool3537 Many other people play RBR and don't have the issues you have, I wonder why that is? Probably just because they can't drive as good as you or something.

@@usefulidiot21 RBR FFB is ancient... so the whole FFB of RBR is based on the weight transfer to turn the car BUT RBR doesn't have any tyre FFB model... you don't feel the tire friction when you brake, you don't feel the tyre friction when you turn and you don't feel the wheels spinning and biting into the ground when you try to accelerate, you only feel the weight of the car... and also when you "slip" in RBR then the tyres are completely gone and you feel like you're sliding on ice with no friction at all and turning the wheel does nothing... the car is essentially dead... RBR is hailed as a sim but it's a video game... meaning that you don't learn based on feeling the car but based on memorizing the input on the wheel by trial and error... my issue with RBR and it's ridiculous stans is that RBR is less of a sim than any other rally game because of the absolute lack of potent FFB and real tyre physics and because it's a video game that it's trying to be realistic through a placebo effect... meaning that visually it looks really realistic but in terms of how the car handles in your hands it's extremely inconsistent because of the lack of tyre physics... in RBR you're literally on ice without any feeling from your tyres to your wheel other than the artificial bumps on the road being sent to the wheel... and yes RBR is the hardest rally game out there but any moron that tells you hard=realistic, just tell them to shut up, cause that argument is pure bullshit... Finally, RBR is way too slow compared to a real life rally... due to it's nature you are made to drive waaaaay too slow compared to a real rally car... because RBR has a good idea of how rally should be driven but doesn't have the tools to make it real... so people end up driving overly safe in it and without being aggressive at all because it's inconsistent and if you push you'll always end up in the dumpster because there is zero notice from the FFB when you're about to lose grip... RBR is extremely overrated... great for it's time, but severely lacking for today's standards... IF this game had proper FFB we can talk again but it doesn't...

@@sportschool3537 I get it, you don't like RBR because you want something more accessible that's less realistic and that's fine. Everyone can like and play what they want, that's the beauty of having all of these games to choose from. I didn't start out playing RBR, but over time I got to the point where I realized that it's what I like now. I actually find it easier to drive than DR 2.0 or the WRC games because it's more like driving in real life, whereas in those other games, I had to figure out the tricks and get used to the artificially high limit of grip every time I played after a bit of time off. But RBR isn't for everybody.

Omg what 😂 Me going flat out in Kenya would not end well 😂

I really like the hybrids!

The rocks weren’t ideal for sure since I don’t know how to get through ‘em without damaging the car. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Otherwise the stage was great in my opinion. 😊

@@Finns_in_Simland Reminded me a lot of v-rally (less those silly rocks), one of the first racing games I played. Very similar style and colour palette

I have to disagree, it’s realistic to the Safari Rally, at stages of Safari you have to crawl over terrain and go around slowly, you also need a proper Safari set up, there’s a reason the cars look so different at Safari and there’s so many retirements

Going through these comments it certainly feels like people prefer DR2 over WRC. 😅 in my opinion WRC feels better (force feedback) and the handling/physics are better and longer stages are nice to have so I prefer WRC over DR2.0. But who knows, maybe my mind will change when I play more DR2 🤷🏼‍♂️

They definitely do. 😊

I agree that the more games the better. It’s always better to have multiple options and not be stuck with a game one might not like that much but it’s the only one. 😊

I usually make my own livery so that’s nice to know since I hadn’t paid attention to that. 😅

It’s such a great stage!

@@Finns_in_Simland yeah :)

I’m so confused. Quite many are saying that dr2 has better audio than EA WRC but I’ve always felt that it’s the vice versa and with a large margin as well. 😅

@@Finns_in_Simland thats fine, everyone has different opinions. maybe im wrong. but i prefer dirt rally 2.0 audio. it feels more raw and real to me. hearing all the gravel hitting the undercarriage, the engine reving, chassis squeaking etc. irl that audio is probably muffled given they wear some sort of headphone and mic system to talk to each other/ hear the co driver/ pacenotes. still. a stripped down rally car with weight reduction is going to be very noisy with no acoustic dampening. especially on the surfaces it drives on. maybe ea wrc is more realistic audio given the muffled/ dampened sound of a helmet/ headphnes but i cant help but prefer the more raw baddass sound of dirt rally. but its subjective, so i dont blame you for thinking differently to me.

They are? Have they changed the names then since I’ve seen only a few with same names and even them have been all different lengths

The only one is Monte-Carlo and they have changed so much the assets that it looks completely different and way better.

@@twisted239 I asked if they had, the side by side clip looked very similar and if you remember clearly the DLCs for Dirt 2.0 were tracks directly lifted from Dirt 1.0

@@Lisa-Azra_Broad Stages in EA WRC are all created by scanning real life roads and real life rally stages from all around the world via satellite, stages in Dirt Rally 2.0 are creations of the devs and are not real life locations. So none of the stages of EA WRC are imports from DR2.0 at all

@@sportschool3537 thank you for that information, that answers my question

Need to give them a try since I do not like at all how the RWD cars feel in EA WRC

The rwd cars have terrible default setups. The physics model is actually quite similar. Is seems like the default setups are tuned for use with driver aids. It's the same deal with the force feedback. WRC is really good with the correct settings.

I have not since I don’t have any. 😅

Check your audio configurations, it's possible you have surround audio activated. Happens to me on PC. Surround 5.1 or something similar. You should set it to stereo instead, I don't even have a home theater in my home or something like that but, somehow, my system set it to surround sometimes lol

you can lower all other sound effects to make co driver easier to hear. there are multiple sliders for different audio effects.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

Also WRC has so much more stages

WRC may handle slightly better but the roads feel way more dead in comparison. Using the road camber is crucial in 2.0, it's not so apparent in WRC. Everything about 2.0 is more visceral... speed, sound, bumps/jumps. WRC feels quite relaxed in comparison, like a sunday drive. You get punctures very easily in 2.0, you can't make any mistakes. WRC is VERY forgiving. I really hope WRC25 is a new game and they rework it to be more like 2.0, or make it more hardcore and improve the roads especially, they're too flat.

I definitely prefer EA WRC when it comes to audio 🥶

I’m still not too familiar with either game yet but the best sounds I’ve ever heard in racing games come from these two titles for sure.

Yeah it is better 😊

Because it's much easier, yes. Cars have F1 levels of grip even on gravel.

@@Pupixario Just not true at all

Yeah the Swedish stages are really smooth in EA WRC. That snow must be rock solid 😅

Has anyone tested if your running order affects the road surface in WRC?

IIRC it does affect in clubs and/or championships against AI

Could be. Although this particular sign is probably just bugged since one can drive through other similar signs. 🤔

😂

There’s some snow banks in WRC but comparing to dirt rally there might as well not be any 😅 Such a big difference

:)

Fortunately not quite 😅

I’ve yet to try tarmac properly in DR2.0. Need to give it a go one of these days.

first dirt rally feels bit weird on tarmac too. Like the tires regain grip very fast so its hard to find correct gas and wheel position for drifts.

Yes i love both games but avoided tarmac on dr2.0 now i can actually drive on it in wrc

WTF, first dirt rally has best tarmac physics of all EA rally game, clearly you havent slided car in real life, you can perfectly feel where your car looses grip, whereas in DR2 or WRC you cant. But gravel handling in wrc is the most detailed and realistic. What im trying to say is, in asetto corsa, beamng, dirt rally 1, you can drive on the limit of the tyres, because you can feel it. In dirt rally 2.0 or ea wrc, if you go to the corner too fast you fly out of the corner because you can fell shit. Maybe its because i have poor steering wheel(TMX) and you have fanatec, but i dont think wrc tarmac is good at all... everytime i try it, after asseto or beamng i get pissed at what shit i spent 60€ or idk how much 😂

On tarmac try drive like on circuit race style. Its easier in DR2 to control ur car. And last set up your wheel n ride height with low.

At this point I would settle to having the colours of dirt rally. WRC looks so dull in comparison. 😢

It most certainly is! I’m so excited for the upcoming DLC! 🤩