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The Meandrous Engineer
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2022
Projects, product reviews, and learning ways to be a better maker
Engineering, 3D printing, woodworking, machining, DIY, remodeling, art, aesthetics, robotics, sci fi.....am I missing anything? As a previous artist and now an engineer, I have a unique perspective on a lot of these things.
Engineering, 3D printing, woodworking, machining, DIY, remodeling, art, aesthetics, robotics, sci fi.....am I missing anything? As a previous artist and now an engineer, I have a unique perspective on a lot of these things.
Small Woodworking Shop Tour: Big Ideas on a Budget
It will probably be a lifelong endeavor, but I've been accumulating shop furniture and tools for most of my life. Some tools are inherited, some furniture should have been junk. You can make something for yourself if you're willing to see with some vision and keep an eye out for opportunities. You don't have to buy the best stuff or make things from scratch to have a great setup that works for making what's important to you.
It would be nice to have perfect workshop right away, but as Adam Savage says @tested a shop is a process. I look at it as an evolution towards better and better versions of a place to work. A workshop can mean different things to different people as well. I myself want it to be a place for creativity and inspiration. Others may want it to be the most efficient and functional space they can have.
Here's my shop tour for 2024. Hopefully it is useful, interesting, or inspirational to some.
Links from topics in the video:
The TRUTH About Power Tools - th-cam.com/video/s5an1wP_-Ws/w-d-xo.html
Best Chop Saw Ever? Full Length Makita LC1230 Review - th-cam.com/video/5ykibZqFAI4/w-d-xo.html
My Story So Far: From Sculpture and Machining to Engineering - th-cam.com/video/jNzufNbdD24/w-d-xo.html
It would be nice to have perfect workshop right away, but as Adam Savage says @tested a shop is a process. I look at it as an evolution towards better and better versions of a place to work. A workshop can mean different things to different people as well. I myself want it to be a place for creativity and inspiration. Others may want it to be the most efficient and functional space they can have.
Here's my shop tour for 2024. Hopefully it is useful, interesting, or inspirational to some.
Links from topics in the video:
The TRUTH About Power Tools - th-cam.com/video/s5an1wP_-Ws/w-d-xo.html
Best Chop Saw Ever? Full Length Makita LC1230 Review - th-cam.com/video/5ykibZqFAI4/w-d-xo.html
My Story So Far: From Sculpture and Machining to Engineering - th-cam.com/video/jNzufNbdD24/w-d-xo.html
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I like how much you love and value your shop, you got a subscriber!
I appreciate that! I didn’t really think about it coming across but I’m glad it did.
Great video. The non-working stuff looks pretty cool too. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Its 0.586 Theres 23 divisions and each division is 0.025 mm Therefore, 23×0.025 = 0.575 Now the coinciding vernier is 11 multiplying it with the least count of micrometre i.e 0.01 gives 0.11 Add this with the mains scale reading, 0.11+0.575 = 0.586
Id bet money your mitutoyo are fake.
I cant imagine how much work goes into creating a 3D model like that. Nice work!
It's more of a mental therapy and meditation once you get into it, but still exciting to think about building once it's done. Thank you!
Awesome video man
Appreciate it!
Awesome video man
Thank you! I appreciate it.
CNC operator here : DON'T buy Mitutoyo Digital calipers new or secondhand. There's lots of fakes out there, and right now it's a really bad time. Some fakes people are charging a price where it's obvious it's fake but other fakes people are charging the full retail price and it's kinda difficult and unclear to tell them apart. . . HOWEVER, I daily and absolutely love their dial calipers. Japanese made Mitutoyo dial calipers are awesome, just as awesome as the American made Starrett's. Plus I haven't seen any fakes of those yet.
Ha ha..A ‘Decimal equivalent’ chart is totally unnecessary if you stopped using antiquated nonsense like 17/64” (or 34/128”). I am not a machinist, but I sometimes build in ‘Thou’…However, metric is so much more convenient and my dial calipers purport to read 1/100 mm (under half of one thou). I can’t test that degree of accuracy…although a dial will be accurately proportioned you need to know the accuracy of the distance covered per revolution…mine says 1mm per needle revolution…IF that is correct then a 1/100 division will indeed be 1/100 mm…it can’t be anything else right. I can only test it with known gauges such as drilling bit shanks, which so far read spot on. My calipers were only 50 Quid (bucks if you like)…so not top notch, but prove more than my requirement.
If you work with calipers daily, digital is great, but they use batteries and if you use them only infrequently, well…you know what happens when batteries leak, plus of course they will be flat when you most need them and you can’t always get those button cells locally….So for the infrequent user I’d recommend dial calipers.
What a disgusting display of police ignorance.
Good info. I originally bought a Makita cordless set many years ago. Batteries finally died. But it was the same time they were switching battery styles. At the time Dewalt was less expensive. So I moved to Dewalt. I've been with Dewalt 20v for over 10 years now. All of my original batteries still work. And yes, being able to buy "tool only" tools is awesome.
I've heard the DeWalt 20v batteries are pretty great. Thanks for watching!
I got that festool tablesaw with the whole kit for $2300. I have two other table saws that work fine. For what the festool is capable of, 2300 is dirt cheap.
There is no doubt for me that they make quality stuff. Part of me is afraid that if I were able to invest in Festool that I would never want to go back. That little cordless saw that you have looks like an amazing setup. I've seen alot of woodworking channels have those and it seems about as smooth as you can get. I don't think I've ever spent $2300 on a tool but I won't say never if the opportunity ever comes up.
Thank you for your video. Following your link to the MSC Mitutoyo product, the third thumbnail down on the left side makes it appear that spare parts are available to replace your broken thumb wheel hook. You need part No. 06AEY270. I bought a Mitutoyo 505-637-66 dial caliper in 1977. I paid $65 dollars for it, which was a hunk of change for a poor college student. I used it daily until retiring a few years ago. I believe it's a better product than is available today. Currently, I'm looking to buy a metric version of the same thing, as I prefer dial calipers to digital. Batteries, and all that. But then, I still wear mechanical wrist watches. I don't find much to choose from in the way of metric dial calipers. The Starret metric caliper does 2 mm per revolution and is graduated in 2mm tick marks. I want 1 mm per revolution, and 1mm tick marks. Mitutoyo makes one, but it doesn't seem to be as nicely made as my beautiful 47 year-old one. So I may end up with digital. UGH! Maybe I'm just inept, but I can't find anybody who stocks Brown & Sharpe. Does B&S still exist?
There are definitely spare parts available for the calipers. I've tracked down that same part no and I may have a follow up video at some point for repairing them. Thank you for the info! I'm admittedly a little stuck in the past on my tooling choices. I too appreciate a mechanical watch, but I try really hard to appreciate that quartz watches are still precise and keep ticking forever as long as they have a good battery. I think that quality has diminished from the old days to mitigate costs and the mighty dollar speaks louder than any of us, so here we are. Brown and Sharp still exists but they seem to be under or part of the the name Tesa now. If you search Tesa Brown and Sharpe you'll get some results. I haven't tried any of their stuff since that name change. They used to be quite good before that though.
Skills too pay da bills 💪🏽😎
Thank you for sharing honest thoughts. Somehow I came to the same conclusions.
I hoped it would be helpful for a few people. Not surprised that you came to the same conclusions. A lot of people in industry generally feel the same way.
Search up Techtronic Industries, the own/ make Milwaukee, AEG/Rigid and Ryobi. There are a few other power tool companies like this
Man, that's interesting and not surprising at all. They can still function as somewhat separate entities within the corporation but be ruled by the same policies. Makes me want to look up other tooling companies and make a family tree graphic of all the brands.
I'm a die hard Ryobi guy. I do some of everything and I do it alot. The only tools I've broken made by them are the rotary tool because I was cutting wheel studs off of of my car, angrily, with it, and the sawzalls because I really beat the balls off of them. The same happened with my Milwaukee fuel version. My personal consensus, based on genuine experience, including using tools for the wrong application, is that Ryobi is the best. They're like pulling for an underdog and who doesn't wanna have a little bit of character? Fuck the cool guys with their fancy tools. Mine does the same thing and was probably made in the same factory by the same people with slightly different parts.
According to @lacham05, they're made by the same company as Milwaukee which is exactly right. I say if you love them, use 'em til they're dead. How long have you used Ryobi? I'm curious if I just had a bad experience with a drill or if they had an uptick in quality after 2008 or so...
Very good and necessary video... I live in Brazil so I everything is REALLY expensive... So I cannot play around... I have 2 lines... I use Dewalt for cordless tools, sharing the same batteries... And for more specific wood tools, I buy corded Bosch tools because they have very quality cheaper tools... And that's it... Nice video!
Thank you! Are things typically more expensive in Brazil or just imported power tools?
@@themeandrousengineer Everything is more expensive here... Some brands have representation here, like Dewalt, Makita, Bosch.... so they are more affordable... because of taxes... so I can buy a couple of Dewalt tools with the price of 1 Milwalkee tool...
My experience is (for a non-professional) buy a medium brand, but even more important is: decide battery or no battery. For example, battery powered palm sanders are heavy, bulky, awkward to use, tiring your grip after 15 minutes of constant use, requires cycling through least 2 batteries and maybe 3. You physically probably don't want to grip the darn thing through an hour or more of sanding. But a corded model can be run for hours without wearing your grip out. I know; I tried it.
Man, that is a great point that I forgot to add in the video. For constant use tools I always buy corded tools like with sanders, routers, grinders, and drills used as a mixer for self leveler like in the video.
Ridgid’s problem is not reliability, it’s variety
The AEG tools they are based on have reasonable variety but not as much since they were bought by milwaukees parent company, techtronic industries
I have never bought a Rigid product, but they always look pretty rugged in the store. I always just had preference for others, that was obviously purely subjective. I know a lot of people love them.
With battery adapters, as long as you invest in a 18v system you can pretty much get any tool with any battery
That's nuts that they have those. I had never heard of these and looked it up from your comment. It's pretty great that you could power other brands with a different battery but there's something in my OCD that is somewhat repelled from doing this. Is that wrong?
Another question I would say you should as yourself "How rough and tough are you on your tools?" As for my self I'm very rough an tough on my tools (as I have worked with tools that were built to last an take any kind of abuse thrown at them) I need them to be durable don't care what the brand is I just need a strong durable an long lasting (kindy falls under how long are you planning on using the tools) but this my not be a question you need to ask yourself however it worth asking yourself to make sure you won't need it to do that
Rough* tough* are you a dog?
@@JakeStreisand haha sure 🤷 I'll fix that
This is a fair question too. It could fall in the "what application" category a little, but I try to be fairly mindful when handling my tools because I hate spending money on something I've already bought. I would rather spend money on expanding my capabilities than fixing things.
I try to buy in the middle of the price range. I am not a professional so don't need the best but I also don't need the worst. I personally am moving away from battery operated tools and going back to corded, mainly because in a few years they won't make the 18 volt any more or the connection is different.
I haven’t found a reason to buy anything like Festool, but I wouldn’t turn down their sander, air filtration, or the domino. I haven’t typically bought Rigid (nothing against them) and I said my admitted bias on Ryobi. Kobalt might be fine but I usually go for lower bells and whistles of the bigger guys, especially if it’s a tool I can use forever. The batteries are the biggest pain of the whole deal but the last two generations of Makita I’ve had have lasted and done surprisingly well. Corded is forever and I see the appeal of that with my Black and Deckers from the 80’s
Once your caliper has dropped it immediately becomes wrthless as an arbitrary measuring tool so it must go either to a proper checks/repair/calibration service or in the rubbish bin straight away.
That's a fair assessment. I haven't used the Mitutoyo's that broke for anything production related since dropping them. To their credit, I think they are still quite accurate.
Have you tried loc-lines website?
Great Program!
Thank you!
I have at least 8 different digital calipers. Starrett, Mitutoyo, Tesa, and Mahr. Starrett are the worst, Mitutoyo the best. If you drop them, any of them, they need to go into the trash.
That's quite a collection. Admittedly I haven't used Starrett digitals due to my favoritism for the mechanical versions so I can't really have an opinion one way or the other.
@themeandeousengineer Why did you have to replace your Starrett dial calipers?
I didn't have to replace my personal Starrett dial calipers at all. At work I did replace the digital Mitutoyo's from the video with some Starrett 120-A's. They've been pretty good so far.
Looks like you bought fake mitutoyo,
Many people have had that same thought but I'm pretty sure they're not since I bought them from MSC
If you want a super durable and inexpensive caliper good old verniers are very tough.
Funny you mention that, I just ordered some Mitutoyo verniers from late 50's/early 60's on eBay
@@themeandrousengineer I was also thinking that to do unbiased caliper testing you could have someone make up a random stack of gauge blocks and measure those. That way the person with the calipers wouldn't know what the measurement should be yet it would be very easy to determine what the measurement should be.
Minus series gage pins are .0002 under size from marked size unless the pins are chinese junk. Minus series gage pins if a qualty brand will mearsure .0002 undersize from marked . Gage pins are measured with a Master Mic or optical comparator when certified. The caliper material is not flexing at the beams , its the gear mechanism being overstressed . 24:26
The gage pin I had could most definitely be Chinese origin so the accuracy could be questionable. I think we could both be right on the caliper part, the gear and the material could be flexing/stressed.
Great video. I really like everything from the layout, the editing, the thought behind your points, the realization and your appreciation of the work I assume he put into producing it. Most importantly, I really like to see woodworkers and other makers supporting each other. Nice video and new subscriber. :)
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback. How did you find the video by the way?
@@themeandrousengineer It popped up on my feed when I searched "brass chunky Four Eyes" trying to send the video link to Chris's video to a friend. :)
@@oilcitywoodworks Nice, I had put a link in his most recent video comments and I was curious if people had clicked it. Thanks for spreading the word.
I think working in a manufacturing environment is a good place to work. When I was in college, I spent two summers in a shingle plant. I had to learn every position on the line to cover that job while the employee went on vacation. Anyway, I'd sit for hours on end and watching the machinery work. I was trying to figure out how it all worked. There's a sensor here. Once something breaks that beam, it activates that motor and moves this arm. Anyway. That type of simple understanding helped me move out of a book into the real world. Granted I've never been an engineer other than building IT systems, but it helped me in my real world. So yes, I'd say any real-world experience will be beneficial...
I spent my career as a software developer but the issues are the same. School doesn't teach real world and students have no experience.
It’s a real shame that this is the case but it’s sad to say that this is reassuring to see. I think the universities could do a better job preparing people for the real world but I’m not sure they worry about it much.
@@themeandrousengineer I actually got better education at the community college since the teachers were usually part time and had real world experience.
There's so many brand, like nsk, shinwa, kanon, insize, mahr, somet, B&S, M&W etc etc but performance of the tools is still depends entirely on the operator, if you abused your tools, use them wrong, drop them, they will break regardless. It's seem that peoples move always from vernier caliper but i still use my 60+ years mitutoyo 12" vernier that grandfather give it to me.. it's outlast the previous owner and yes, it pass calibration tests with flying colors. One thing i know that most modern vernier caliper are not as good as the old one. It's funny to think that with all of these state-of-the-art manufacturing but their product quality are getting worse. Unlike 50s instrument, that practically handmade but somehow having much better finish and quality.
You’re right on a lot of things. It does depend on the user quite a bit and they’re not meant to be dropped even if it can point out flaws in the design. I’m not surprised in the least that older vernier’s are better than new ones. Things used to be made with pride and attentiveness. Now things are made as cheaply and as quickly as possible to maximize profit.
i use Mitutoyo manual metal callipers, almost all my mesuring tools since 1980 are Mitutoyo, and chordless tools are Makita
In truth, I’m not totally devoted to one brand or the other. There are certain models from each brand that I think are pretty good. There some exclusions to that like SPI or something similar. Although I am open to other brands of power tools, I am also a big Makita fan.
I've seen that pencil on his videos. Looks really cool. Glad you like it.
Holding it in person is believing. If you like over engineered objects this is your pencil.
@@themeandrousengineer I remember when I was in school, I used the Pentel P205 pencil. I'd go to Sam's Club at the beginning of the year and buy a set of them. Then I'd lose them throughout the year. But at that point any other writing instrument felt so weird as I had used that pencil so much. I hardly write at all now. For woodworking I typically just use a normal carpenter's pencil. I try to buy the bright colored ones so I can find them.
But I guess if I spent that much on a pencil, maybe I'd actually keep up with it.
I was on the fence, now im not. I will buy one
I hope you enjoy the purchase if you do. Thanks for watching!
I bought a Mitutoyo caliber in 1977 and they have preformed perfectly. As it happens I bought nice Starrett 120 caliber for $20.00 today. No plastic in either.
I would worry less about the older calipers, but you can still get some high quality ones from both Starrett and Mitutoyo today. You just gotta be careful which one you choose. I find myself wondering where you got some Starretts for $20? Thanks for watching!
I think the missing issue is the value judgement. You make a good point to prove this in asking ai for an answer then asking it to defend the opposite position and it will equally and convincingly do both. In between lies the value judgement which ai cannot do and if it does will inherently suffer from bias which we cannot tease out because of the black box scenario. We would have to remove bias from the data which we have been doing the opposite of for the last 40 years.
I think you’re right. It is a missing value judgment or “intuition”. Using statistics to evaluate the likelihood of a “correct” answer removes a qualitative touch that will be difficult to emulate. Biased data is definitely a problem as well. I have no idea how to add neutrality to its decision process to make the best output. It comes back to will it be autonomous or just a tool?
@@themeandrousengineer I am worried the simple attribute of "complexity" will make the average human trust it too much from prior conditioning of expectations based on sci fi entertainment. I already see people just think of it as an answer machine and placing inherent trust.
@@BonsaiBurner Same. The way it’s marketed is very important and there are definitely ethical concerns. It could easily spread disinformation because someone got it from an AI and accepted it as fact.
Im an electrical engineer and sometimes i code as a hobby, it helped me a lot making some mods for games about a year ago. I basically decompiled a ton of code and gave chatGPT about 500 lines at a time, then asked questions and it described the code super well, really useful if you don't have the source code. Also helped with different implementations when i tried to make some functions, it's incredibly good at writting code if you narrow the query properly, i never got a wrong answer in those cases and you can test it easly, wich i did of course. It also really useful asking if your code is right before deploying it, helps you find a bunch of bugs fast. The bad responses were if i asked to write an entire library (.dll files) or similar tasks with a wide scope, wich are a nightmare since you need to verify the entire code.
I'm really curious to use it for some coding. I have some Arduino projects I keep thinking about plus a CNC gantry I want to slap some servos on to make a CNC router.
Have you heard any AI music? Some of it is actually pretty good.
Prompted by your comment, I just went and tinkered around with Loudly. Some tracks were ok and others weren't that great. Where were you finding some good music? Having played guitar since I was a teenager, I'm going to have to fight some bias on this one too because it goes back to the theft of creativity. I'll be willing to give it a chance. I'm really trying to look at it as a tool instead of something out to rob the joys in life.
@@themeandrousengineer Hold on, I’ll find something here on YT.
@@themeandrousengineer The lyrics are off-colour, so don’t play around sensitive ears, but I find this one catchy! th-cam.com/video/n5r8kiW8geU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=E6uHvtgzFOVwf1qo
@@themeandrousengineer It won’t let me post a link. Try looking up Hard Archive here. I suggest the song “My Girl Drives Like Sh.t”.
@@themeandrousengineer Correction, the song is called “ You Drive Like Sh.t”
My harbor freight do it very well for $9.99 11 years ago :)
Hey, if they work for you that's great. What kind of work do you do with them?
@@themeandrousengineer metal, wood reloading
@@ilanmagen Any machining at all? Just curious if these Harbor Freight calipers give you some decent accuracy (+/- 0.001)
Thanks for the info. Very good discussion points. Personally, I'm not fearful of AI itself. I'm mostly fearful of people trusting AI too much too soon. I use OpenAI/ChatGPT for help with titles and descriptions for videos. But even then, sometimes I'm just "what the heck are you talking about?"
I second your thoughts. Trusting too much too soon is a valid concern. Ultimately I think it can be a great tool to use for multiple things but it deserves some introspection first.
I've added some tooling links in the description if anyone is interested in some tooling recommendations for squares, reamers, carbide blade saw, and calipers
Excellent. I would love to see links to some of the products you use (e.g. reamers, machinist squares, etc.) Great video.
I've added a few items in the description for tooling I use or would recommend. I hope you find it helpful and please let me know if there's something else you're curious about. Thank you for watching!
I have degrees in computers and finance but when it comes to equations or math involving symbols my brain refuses to process. Have you found a different way of learning math that might help?
I’m working on this one. I know some teachers that may have suggestions but we’ll see.
How will an engineer's job change with AI becoming so prevalent. Today it feels like AI is just a glorified search engine, but over time it will get better and better.
Working on this one first but it will be a long answer. Hope you’re ready
Brilliant video. Very helpful
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching