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@@p2rkw depends on the board and what you want to do.

@@Scliff Never tried. I don’t understand it. Like, not at all.

@@ernesto006 love it!!!

All depends on conditions and how nice of an edge I want. And on edge damage…. If it’s burred I go 200/400/600/1000. If it’s not burred, I start at the 400…. Sometimes after every ride. Sometimes after three, four days…

@ awesome, thank you for still actively answering questions on a video from quite a while ago!

@ that’ll be me until TH-cam burns down… 😅🤙

Any board review that only talks about positives is either hiding something or doesn’t understand the board… 😎

@@PPELSNER I wish there was a video dissecting those two boards in depth next to each other!! 😅✌️

@@PeterBelling-q1w yeah, that’ll do. Bindings are preference. The Genesis is not very responsive, therefore very comfortable. Can’t have it all, I guess. Ride it, feel it out, then decide. Good luck!

@@Surfratglass 🥳🙂🙏

It'll be fine. I'm almost 100% certain that all their boards have an appropriate base bevel to be ridden out of the box. Never seen a Jones without bevel once....

Ha! That is so cool to hear! Let me know what you think!!

@@tomc3873 awesome to hear!!! Thanks for your support!!

@@tomc3873 this is so cool!! Take it out into the wild!! It’s gonna get even better!! 😉😎🙏🤙

@@White1404 I’ll think about it. The Buy Me A Coffee thing that I have in place is working really well for people. Have you tried it? Are there issues with it? Would be great to know. buymeacoffee.com/justaride

@@gabrieleturelli1108 Hi!! Thank you so much for the kind words!! The Shorty and Biru would make an amazing quiver of boards!! They’re very different in how they ride, yet they both feel like a Stranda in regards to edge grip, dampening and the fast base. Don’t be afraid 😉 If you can’t find a dealer, order through my link. It will support my channel a bit and you get free shipping globally. www.strandasnowboards.com/ref/878/ 🙏🙏

@@nemaemanema3940 Shorty! It’s the better carver and the better floater. The lack of a tail and the overall lesser ‘freeride gnar’ vibe are both things that I would make up for as a rider. That said, the Descender is what I’m riding equally as much.

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I still haven't decide on which one would be my next board, so far I'm leaning towards the descender as there is not much pow riding where I'm from. Love your contend keep it up please.

@ That’s a solid argument for that board. Although it floats remarkably well for a not so heavily tapered and not so set back board.

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I know you mentioned that both boards deal well with choppy conditions, but am I wrong to think that the Descender should have the advantage in icy and freeze-thaw conditions dew to the Power Bumps?

@ yeah, but then it loses the advantage again with all the tail rocker…. That’s a tough one to say. Not sure which one would win that comp.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Also, most important, size 12 boot, euro29

@@davidsheldon1929 if you feel like you can handle the length, yes! It does ride a little shorter than its size suggests. Otherwise Biru 157, maybe?!

@@davidsheldon1929 the most important part is to go through the link in the video description to order that board! 😅 Just kidding!! But would be helpful, if you did ! 🙏 Biru is of course not as much of a pow board as the Shorty. I just suggested it because of the rest of your quiver. The 164 Shorty would be by far the longest length.

Bowlrider is quite different from the Optimistic with over twice the taper and a much longer nose. It's much more directional and will outfloat the Optimistic without trying. Therefore riding switch isn't as good as on the YES board. For a directional rider with a focus on turning the Bowlrider can be a one board quiver. Carving is outstanding, and float will blow your mind. It's freestyle that isn't its forte, due to the not so spin friendly shape (long nose) and very directional flex. Hard to tell anybody what board is best for them.... But that's what I got.

Thanks Lars! No switch or park for me. The YES board has a big nose for its size and wasn’t too friendly for spinning either. Any reason for Bowlrider over TS? I assume the tail for more groomers and side hits.

@@powsnob04 exactly!

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Just ordered a 159 Bowlrider and used your link. Can’t wait to lay down some turns!

@@powsnob04 Thank you for going through the link! Please get in touch and report back how you like the board!! Have fun!! 🙂

@@davidspear6682 depends on riding level. If you’re an advanced rider with good technique, who moves fore aft a lot through the turns, you could go 164/165. Otherwise 159.

I'm essentially your size and ride a 164 Shorty. Absolutely love it. It does feel like a lot more board than my 165 Korua Trenchdigger, but not in a bad way, it's more of a tool than a toy. The variable sidecut and flex make it a lot of fun to vary turn shapes. It made me fall in love with carving. I've subsequently bought the Korua and a freecarver 6000, but still ride it when I seriously want to carve. It makes a really good powder gun too.

I did consider the 159 Bowlrider, as it is the same width as the 164 Shorty (which is decent for size 8 boots), but the Shorty suited me better... and the titanal really is special.

@@davidspear6682 the essential part is that you use my link to order your Stranda 😉🙏 Only half kidding…, haha… Keep asking questions. Happy to help. 👍✌️

Thanks for the feedback@@TheDerekHyde How is the Shorty in bumps and tighter trees?

Thinking about the Bowlrider or TreeSurfer. Do you mind sharing what other boards you've ridden and how it compares? Thanks!

@@borilsopov8160 Cheater as a carver is a solid step up from the Bowlrider. Biru as a quick, nimble, freestyle inspired addition… Done! 🙂😅🙌

@@powsnob04 I currently have older Jones Explorer 161W and last years Nidecker Mellow 160W. The Mellow feels very slow and not holding its edges. The Jones grips well, but cheats with serrated edges. My Bowlrider 165 is above them all. As nimble as the Jones and it really is very calm. I’ve been on it for 4 days only this winter…but that persuaded me to replace my whole quiver with Strandas

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I think you confirmed what I needed to hear… The Cheater it is. Though to be fair, if I get a chance to demo Korua Bullet train I may reconsider it.

@@borilsopov8160 yeah, they are special boards. The Bullet train is an interesting board. It’s kind of a mini cheater regarding material length relative to effective edge. I found it strangely boring. It feels like a tool. The titanal under the top sheet kills all vibration but also some pop. It’s just glued to the ground, which some people love! It carves like a surgical knife, but the large radius combined with the slightly dead overall feel make that a bit of a dull experience. Although the Cheater is bigger, it turns quicker and is livelier, while also being amazingly damp with that fat ash core. Worth trying both. I prefer Cheater.

@@johnnyuturn to be bluntly honest, it’s the wrong board for you! I’m 135 lbs and I rode the 157 last year. It was one of the softer boards I’ve tried…. You’ll just blow through it, no matter what length. It won’t support your weight appropriately. Great board otherwise. Forget for a moment that I’m a Stranda ambassador…. The only short/fat volume shifted board I know that will support your weight is the 157 Stranda Biru. It’s a volume shift but the core profile is traditional with a thick centre. Waist is 275 which is better for your boot size. Radius is under 7m, which is plenty nimble and agile. This is unbiased advice. In case you like that board and buy it, and you can’t find a dealer, order from Stranda with my link (free global shipping) www.strandasnowboards.com/ref/878/ I hope this is insightful for you!!

Thanks so much for the honest feedback. Biru has been on my radar and looks like a ripper. I look forward to your bowl rider review!

It’s way too narrow for you. Anything under 270mm waist is not good for your size 12. But also a great board… 🙂

Thanks! Glad you think so! 🙂

Thanks Christian!! Very much appreciated!

Bowlrider dropping in exactly 16h and 41 minutes!! 🙂

Hi Peter! I didn't skip that. I'm comparing the boards that can be confused through superficial similarities. That is Biru/Descender and Shorty/Bowlrider.... If you're between Shorty/Descender, the decision can easily be made just reading through board description on the Stranda homepage. The boards are vastly different. Anyhow, with the two videos you can hopefully figure it out. To compare two boards you just need knowledge about them rather than a direct video comparison. Not trying to 'be rude', but where would this end? I'm basically skipping 10.000 reviews, as any board could be compared to any other board... Feel free to reach out, if you still have trouble! I'm definitely here to help.

@ Hi Lars! Love your channel, quality content, clearly and concisely communicated. My comment was intended to be humorous, but your reply struck a nerve, specifically when it comes to “descriptions”. TBH reading the “descriptions” isn’t particularly helpful, like ever (this isn’t limited to Stranda). Not to be rude (lol) but have you read the description of the Descender? “for anyone who wants a directional freeride snowboard” and “weight is kept low to allow for backcountry freestyle riding” while Shorty is “as fun on the groomers as in the backcountry”. That’s not particularly helpful if you’re trying to decide between them. I’ve already decided after a bunch of chatting on forums (the website wasn’t particularly helpful) but certainly would have have enjoyed a video, liked it, and subscribed (even if you thought it a waste of time).

@@peterjmcgowan I guess you're right. And I guess I'm assuming too much... As in: what is actually 'obvious' to someone with less experience?! I also guess that my comment makes sense, too - as in: well, why don't I compare the Descender to the Cheater, the Makrill, The Capita Aeronaut and the Jones Flagship... the list goes on. I think more in board specs and in obvious design features than in company descriptions. That's what I meant with the homeoage. The numbers state 9mm vs. 14mm taper - that's a huge difference with a clear idea in mind: less taper = more versatility / more taper: better pow performance. Then the simple fact that you have a huge kick tail on the Descender paired with that lesser taper - again: more versatility! 9m radius on Descender / 8.5m on Shorty: more speed stability with the Descender, more fun when just turning with the Shorty. So Stranda (and every other brand out there) is trying to simplify these details. But you're right, it always sounds like "god knows what that really means!". So my take on this: Descender is the more aggressive fall line charger / freerider with allmountain versatility(less taper / kick tail) for better riders (stiff board). Shorty is the fully directional Pow Board with a better turning experience on groomers than what you can have with the Descender and more float in pow. To me those things would be obvious, and that's where I need to apologize to you! Our background in overall snowboarding experience is likely quite different. I hope this helps to understand where I was coming from. And again, I really didn't mean that as a rude comment. The written word is a tricky one.

@ I think that’s a base script for a great video! Well, depending on the audience anyways….I’m sure (as you say) this is all obvious to some. But I wonder if the people who already know everything would be half as interested in your channel as the people who want to know more? In any case, I hope the comments bump up your interaction metric ;) still looking forward to learning something from the Shorty vs Bowlrider (was seriously looking at the Bowlrider after the Tree Surfer video)

@@peterjmcgowan I'm sure that with the two videos you'll be able to make an educated decision between all four boards. I'm really trying to break things down. I also said in the beginning of the videos why I picked the two and not some other pairing. So I hope that alone puts people on a path... Yeah, the time I spend replying to 100% of the comments can't be paid by TH-cam, no matter what interaction metric they come up with. I'll never reach a level of 100% satisfaction of viewer questions. People are so diverse. Brains operate so differently. My favourite is when someone watches 1 minute of a 20 min video and then fires five questions at me that are all answered in detail in the video.... So excuse my impatience, please! It's a wild world out here :-)

@@LagmasterB #flexing 😅

@ 🫶🏼 You guys getting snow in Fernie? We are getting hit in NE Washington. 49° North/Schweitzer/Red

@@LagmasterB yup!! I’m in lake Louise right now. 4 days. First turns of the season.

I got in 2 touring days. First chairlift spinning tomorrow at 49°.

@@zook600 awesome! Enjoy!!

Way too much thinking. Any binding. Literally any! Binding and boot choice is very much subjective. Stiffer = more response. Softer = more flex, movement. Sorry, there's really no answer to that question. Not trying to be mean here ✌️🙂

Watch my boot episode #1 about the right fit. It's all in there. Then get on your way to shops an try boots with my method. Forget about Euro sizes. Try to go by Mondopoint!! Good luck!!

@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel I don't know much about your channel yet but I'll make sure to watch it tonight ! Thank you very much for your help and patience !

@@cryololz nothing to thank me for!! :-) But for real, that video has everything you need. Much easier than writing it all again here 🙂 Thanks for tuning in!! This platform is helping so many people regarding so many different topics of snowboarding. I'm sure you'll get something out of it.

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Ive watched your 3 videos on boots, they're very well made and informative, thank you very much. Sadly I don't have a lot of shops near me where I can try a lot of boots. I can try Salomon and K2 but that's about it for now... I'll do my best :)

@@cryololz that’s always difficult. At least both brands make good boots. Don’t buy too low end. Cheap boots are literally garbage. And sometimes you he expensive ones are, too 😐

Great question... because that board changed three times (Jones may not have communicated that, no idea)! I had the first ones, two of them. Loved them! Won a fun night slalom event in Switzerland on one, hahaha.... Great carving performance, amazing powder performance. Then they spooned the nose.... and that's when things went 'funny'. Spooning adds stiffness and the shaper has less control over the flex in that area. Think of a sheet of metal that flexes. Now make a table spoon of it - flex gone! So that first iteration of spoon made it very stiff, at least that's what I found. To counter that they then made it a little softer in the centre and added torsional flex... Both things, torsional flex and stiff, spooned nose decrease carving performance to a degree. For pow I never felt that the spoon added much at all. The stiffer nose, however, absorbs choppy terrain less, and personally I'm not a fan of torsionally 'softer' boards. Feels less stable to me, in particular when the nose doesn't absorb and send the vibration into the soft centre..... So I owned three Hovercrafts, and I think the first one was the best. No idea about the current one. They changed it again.

You will hear those thoughts! Hang tight! ;-)

Haha, thank you so much! Well, it's a matter of how gnarly you're gonna go... If you think your riding will get you into emergency exit situations that require a tail to ride out switch (from a cliff you got stuck on.....), take the Descender. If you're not getting yourself into this sort of exposure due to overall mellower terrain and lower risk tolerance, get the Shorty. That's my personal take on the two and why I'm on a Descender.

@ Amazing! Mats also recommended the Shorty. Thanks Lars! Will use your link to make the purchase.

Never tried. Played with both at a trade show and thought there was zero difference.... SP is a good carver, but has limits in edge hold when it's firm or steep.

@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Awesome. May pick one up on sale for low angle groomers. 5'11, 170lbs, 8.5 boot, think I should go 156?

@@tinsley_alex totally!! 151 is just not enough....

@@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel Thanks Lars!

30/+9 on this board in this clip. Sometimes less for powder, sometimes more for harder carving on my big boards.

@@Surfratglass 100% true!!!

@@cokeacolazzz stoked to hear this!! Thanks for sharing!! 🤙🙂

@@hiltithedrill awesome!!! Great to know!! Thanks!!