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My dad remembers seeing the old GEs as a kid (U30s, U33s, and so on) and he called the "lug-lugs" because of their distinctive exhaust note. At the time he didn't know what they were other than they sounded vastly different than the first gen EMD units he saw more frequently.

I can imagine, Rapido makes wonderful models.

The early uboats did, but all the half notches did was speed the engine up while keeping the previous notch's power. Rebuilds eliminated half-notches.

Short lines

@RDC2003 I know that a want the name so I can model it

@@pieseasmyseas finger lakes railway

@@pieseasmyseas Lehigh Railway. Now under RJ Corman.

The Lehigh and Owego & Hartford

all GE's sound better than EMD's in Notch 8

The chug is too iconic, I prefer GE over EMD any day.

GEs sound better than EMD

Try a non turbocharged Alco RS-11. There's some raw power for you!

Engine size was too big,for a truck.

@@Joe-d7m6k I meant GE making an appropriate sized engine of course, like a 6-15 liter engine sizes, not this exact engine.

Think someone had all of the ones the Southern ran back in the day.

Somewhere with wooded hills and small mountains. Eastern US, someplace like Pittsburgh, Pa, but could be a lot of places with hills east of the Mississippi.

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Bradford County Pa

@@mstng100mph ty

whats so wrong about it anyway

Me

he means did you fall off the roof?!

@@TomPauls007 who knows if it fell off?

Maybe, but it's hard to beat the roar of an EMD 2-stroke.

@@andywomack3414 Agreed. I hope to someday hear a proper 567 in person, or even a non-turbo 645.... love me a roots blower under load.

@@Kudlaty771 I practically grew up and worked among those early generation EMD's.

@@Kudlaty771 Australia still has a few 567s running and lots of 645s in operation.

@@BPJJohn looks like i'll have to make my way to Aus. ;)

Exactly what my thoughts are. Mind you that America is far too car centric unlike India that utilizes passenger rail , which I admire greatly. I was born and raised in America, but I absolutely hate car centric society....its deadly and unsustainable. I worked as a deckhand on river towboats on the Ohio river, and EMD engines were the very best and mind you 3 of the v20-710 engines can push 100,000 tons of weight up the river pushing barges with direct drive on the propellers. These engines can last 100 years or more with proper maintenance. Unfortunately, we live in a disposable economy and culture.

Most of the SD45's that were manufactured were rebuilt into SD45R's or SD40M-2's because the 20-645-E7's were not successful.The motor flexing of the blocks and it's length was too much stress on the frames and they kept breaking crankshafts aside from issues involving internal vibration.Less than a handful survived preservation and most of them got rebuilt with the 16-645E3's just like the SD40-2's.Even when the SD45-2's were debuted,they still had issues,and nearly all were rebuilt as SD45U's. Conrail was the only railroad that purchased the SD80MAC's,then obviously Norfolk Southern got them on the roster after the merge,while CSX did purchase a dozen of them. The SD80MAC's used 20-710 G3B-EC's and have been the only successful locomotives with a twenty cylinder engine,at that,with 5,000 HP. The entire ordeal of the SD80MAC's was to keep EMD in competition with GE after they released the AC6000CW's. The AC6000CW's didn't have great longevity because of the fact that they didn't have sequential turbochargers and never redesigned the crankshafts,thanks to Deutz MWM,which caused them to have mandatory mainteance every three months to replace turbochargers that were having oil leaks or worn seals. The problems had no solutions and CSX along with Union Pacific made the decision to rebuild them.CSX derated their CW60AC's and designated them as CW44-6's while retaining the original 7HDL-16's. Union Pacific completely rebuilt them into C44ACM's having newer 7FDL-16's. CSX has sold most of theirs to Progress Rail but Union Pacific still has a certain amount of them in service. Norfolk Southern sold all but six SD80MAC's to Progress Rail where most were torched and scrapped.The last six of them are owned by Canadian Pacific to be used as parts donors for their SD9043MAC's and SD70ACU's,including ones they purchased from Union Pacific. This also includes the fact that Norfolk Southern sold most of their SD70ACU's.

@@torquetrain8963 I agree wid u ! Americans mainly know how to waste Beautiful Resources. They need to realise the value of things first.

@@Slim_Slid NS and CP still run the 90MACs, but under their rebuild designation the SD70ACu. Both bought 90MACs then rebuilt them, one change NS made was removing the original Siemens electronics (Siemens also made the AC traction motors for 70,80, and 90MACs) and replacing them with newer and more reliable electronics made by Mitsubishi. This goes along with other engineering changes such as the newer cab design from the SD70ACe.

@@churt6754 Thanks for saying something that I obviously already know.

I'd be more worried about the flex in the crank and cam than the fuel consumption as that's what ultimately killed the 20c ALCo engines