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Thank you for the confirmation about the shielded bay, I had wondered about it for a long time. Sad, but that alone disqualifies the ship from my fleet, even though it finally got the point defense guns in 4.0.

Love my max. Thought about switching to Zues CL just for tractor beam. Might just be easier. Other than that. They seemed equal. Heard CL cargo loading is annoying. Wasted space. Hard to use the 120scu. Most ships seem to have trouble hitting there max scu but max so easier to load big wide and square

Freelancer max broken right now to exit thru side door

If the rear turret in the freelancers are not remote, that would be one of the biggest problems I have with the ship gone! (could not get in or out of gunner possition when cargo was loaded). Frankly, I like both ships; the Zeus Mk II are beautiful ships, fly well, and have nice interiors, and confort features. . However, I have always had a soft spot for the feelancer, and love that look they have! They feel like industrial ships, while the Zeus feel more... NOt industrial, but something else. Modern for sure, but not a workhorse like MISC's ships do. Also, the extra cargo you suggest the living qualiving quarters move to is done that way because its an airlock (i asume you could move some pparts of it, but not the beds, really). I do think they could take a lot of the Hull A (and C?) to the freelancer, maybe some aspects of the Starlancer, though that only l;ets me know they will not change cockpit, I like how Hull A's is, and the Starlancer is just a dancing stage of a cockpit, really. I like the overall ship, but Yeahy, I was hoping more of a Hull Atype of cockpit for MISC ships. Oh, well. What does it for me is these twwho ships are the best of the series (Zeus and Freelancer) for cargo hauling, and while the CL has large fuel tanks and 128 SCU vs 122 SCU for freelancer, I'd pick the Freelancer due to the size of the cargo hold, but in particular, bnecause of the rear ramp!. I hate how they restricted the size of the Zeus' ramp, where you have to squish containers carefully in, and can't get vehicles like an Ursa Medeval in there, and that is what doees it for me. I also believe the freelancer is better in combat, despite how it flies, and better solo ship. Stick vehicles for ROC mining, or an Ursa Medevac for FPS action? plus, some fulty crew with cargo play or in combat with an okay S3 turret now? plus good amount of pilot controlled weapons. I'd take the MAX any day!

Freelancer max can take Ursa

Would like to upgrade to terrapin as its a cool ship but getting rid of my c1 a ship that can do most loops to a ship that cant is not worth it as of now :D

Classic, lol

Great video! The Phoenix (and all the Connies, really) may not look like much, but they've got it where it counts. Excellent all-rounders and very easy to fly and use. The Phoenix's point defense turret is nice to have in a world full of Polaris torp slingers, too! Also comes with a Lynx limo that fits in the cargo bay. :)

Zeus, the turrets are remote so can be bladed giving the pilot the full ship , meaning you dont have to wait on other players all night if you want to jump ingame for a quick bounty!

I think its pretty obvious where the difference is. The MR has basically no strafe thrusters compared to the blue with its VTOL and is very drifty, so blue will be waaay more manuverable in space but especially planetside. I think though in space the extra armour on the Zeus and extra guns might give it the edge, but planetside or solo i think the cutlass would probably be better? both great ships tho, so why get the other in game if ur pledging for one.

the biggest overlooked feature is speed and agility! who ever has speed and agility controls the fight. they get to pick the range when to be in or out of the fight agility means they can keep crossharirs on target while out pacing the opponent at close range! who ever has the bigger armor or shields has the ability to lose slower where as the speed and agility is a win no matter how long it takes!!!! i think the cuttlass biggest flaw is the low hit points on engine and wings

Yup. About as expected.

i wonder how well the compete in game

Great video. Informative, with insightful speculation.

2:40 In my opinion they should drop the snub fighter totally. It’s a heritage from the other models, but this ship should specialize more on shuttle docking. If the snub room could be exchanged with a docking collar room for shuttles with collar capabilities (something like a pisces variant), this ship would be able to fulfill it’s role more effectively. I mean if i’m to meet a VIP in a neutral deep space location, all i can do is to ask him to EVA to the ship. And get in the ship through elevators (in zero-g). Through crew or cargo space. Which is far away from luxury. Also, if a shuttle can be connected, there would be better ways to arrange for example item exchanges, where there are some boxes inside the shuttle. Or to welcome someone in business casual clothing. They could board in group, and they wouldn’t be stuffed into a small elevator just to be welcomed one by one. Currently this ship is way too general. It has to grow some identity and specialize a bit more.

One thing to note. They have stated there will no longer be npcs to hire for your ship. The Freelancer requires 2 people to fly it. So if you want to be able to solo at all. Do not buy a Freelancer Max. It' a shame . I love the look of the ship but, I solo. So am going to have to get rid of mine. I'd prefer the Spirit over the Zeus but it costs less and you cannot trade down. I really wish they'd change that.😞

Appreciate the recap, the stream was hella early so this is nice. I would of Appreciated some b-roll from the stream related to what your talking about but this good as well.

Would be a nice ship for racer or race team. Travel in style while transporting your race ship.

Now that the Zeus is out, which do you prefer?

The Max has a cargo bay door that fits vehicles.

RSI !!!! 🫡

CIG just nerfed the crap out of any existing ships, that might have looked better, than the newly baked cookie cutter batch. Anyone believe, that these got nerfed into oblivion for any real game play reason? hahahaha! Its all about money... FOMO is not enough anymore, folks...

Great comparison video!

Hm, I wonder if the CLs tractor beam could be used defensively? ;-)

and so no storage capability? can't do cargo missions with it?

Why does no star citizen content creator mention ingame prices?! It‘s mostly cargo space and price. Where is the price? I come from Elite and I don‘t get it.

Good stuff...not a fan of the terrapin...but as you said, when actual scanning comes to the game, that may change my mind.

There is nothing to explore.

Great video, might be worth an update considering they just changed the 400i’s load out significantly

Since the release of this video, they've upgraded the MAX to have 3 shield generators.

price?

It's cool looking, but with too high cost (in real money) and inexistant game loop or real useability.

I'm kind of up in the air between the Zeus ES and the Connie Aquila

Should have compared with the C1 Spirit too

the Zeus Mr i also saied to be have good amor and once the Armor is up and running in the game it will make this ship even more be Duablittly like

I have a zeus Mk II es pledge. I did have a 400i but upgraded it as it was pointless. Very limited roles for it and the terrible FOV. I currently own a caterpillar and 600i Explorer. I think once the 600i gets it's rework it will become the ultimate ship.

Isn't it working to get the pulse out with a tractor beam multitool ?

Of all the ships I played with, the Pheonix is my favorite and I really regret melting it a few years ago... now I want it back ! There is something special about that ship (and the entire Constellation line I must say) that CIG was never able to replicate... but I can't put finger on it.

Great video! I'm a new subscriber 😊

Max. You can fit a Nursa in the Max.

400i has x2 remote turrets, meaning they can be bladed one day, thats a big plus, the ship isnt massive so you may be able to do engineering on your own so possibly could make a great solo ship.

Freelancer Max now comes with 3 shields

Zeus is better for entering. Zeus has ramp near cockpit. And ramp is better than elevator. Many vehicles aren't able to det onto the elevator.

Two very different ships. The Freelancer Dur is a better, morirect comparison to the Zeus Ezs; the Corsair or Connie Aqula are more direct 400i competitors. Though based on intent (Origin ship being a luxury tourer vz. Exploration ships) only other touring ships are E1 Spirit and 600i

You do an awesome job bro… Your attention to detail is spectacular…

The freelancer is so underrated.

I always push new players to buy the avenger titan or origin 315p. You don’t need anything else to play the game. But if you do want then I would say playing the game and buying the ship. Now the zues isnt available at the moment. Making money is easy at the moment. If you don’t enjoy fighting and you will always run then the 400i will work just like the 315p. These ships will be easy to jumps out of danger. Buying the zues at the moment will get you a C1 loaner. The zues line up looks amazing and fresh. Everything in the zues has a reason behind it. I would choose a zues line up however I also believe that the freelancer Max is a cheaper alternative. I played with a freelancer max for years. Now I’m working on my gold sniper *sigh* 😢

All I want for Christmas is pyro

in 2018 (maybe 2019) they tested personal habs. Your hab would be in a different room or floor depending on the server, but everything would remain as you left it. You could enter and exit as you saw fit. athe trend back then was collecting turtles at Area 18 and seeing if they would all still be in your hab when you logged in again.

Ship sales, no PU progress (feature delays), No pyro, no server meshing, no squadron 42. And worst of all No SANDWORM! Comeback and comment when I’m right.