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This other women sounds completely vapid.

actually being "trans racial" makes exponentially more sense than being trans sexual or trans gendered.

think of how stupid this is. People are debating whether there are really males and females which is obviously the case.

Allan Bloom was a student of the late Leo Strauss

So easy to understand 35min into this conversation why the assistant teacher still in academia despite "cancelation".

This Rebecca person is a professor? Are you kidding me - trans-racialism!? What's next Trans-speciesism? She's obviously terrified of Kathleen - she can't even look at Kathleen. Kathleen - keep holding fast.

one deals with logic and facts, the other one deals with thought experiments and that vocal fry is unbearable to listen

IMHO, Jew hatred has nothing to do with Jews. Some people are genetically filled with hate (narcissists, psychopaths). They pick on people (or a group), that can’t easily defend themselves, to exercise their hate (power). It’s that simple and that complex!

The real question is why do transwomen insist on being in prisons with females rather than have their own wards with other transwomen. I've come up with exactly two answers, neither of which are valid.

Robbie, I think you spoke a bit too early on Britain not becoming authoritarian. I'm writing this in November of 2024 and Britain is putting people in prison for years for "hate speech". Ireland and Scotland have similar if not more draconian laws on the books and are enforcing them. Of course, once the Democrats eviscerate the Constitution by packing the Supreme Court, we'll join this august group of hate speech fanatics.

Feminists getting a taste of their own medicine. Their cruelty is hard to fathom. Until you realise their hubris and underlying hunger for yet more power!

Kathleen is totally awesome!

The woman on the right literally just said "Men who say they're women are women because they're feminine." How misogynistic on how she sees women, honestly.

I'm in love with Kathleen Stock, just the way she answered every single of the questions directed at her was pure gold.

I support Stock, and completely reject the evidence-free claim of sex-independent "genders" being a meaningful (or even coherent) catagory. (And of course I support equal rights for the sexes, like everyone else). But feminism isn't the solution, here; Feminism is what CREATED, and served as MODEL for the harmful, authoritrian victim-cult of "gender" ideology. Modern "gender" ideology was born and nurtured in feminist academia, on a foundation of the same feminst texts and principles as ALL factions of feminism, in pursuit of feminist goals ("smashing the patriarchy", "fighting gender oppression", "opposing/subverting traditional, patriarchal, white supremacist western r@pe culture", etc), under a primary architect (Judith Butler) who's a vehement feminist, generally respected in feminist academia. It doesn't matter that BOTH radfems, and pro-trans liberal feminists each accuse the other of "not being REAL feminist", and of "REALLY being on the side of the Patriarchy!!" What matters is, that all of "gender" ideology's worst, most foundational aspects exist BECAUSE "gender" ideology is a sub-group, of feminism (which itself, is a sub-group of the equally harmful, broader ideology of , "identity-politics", which is really what's ULTIMATELY to blame, here...) "Gender" ideology's reliance on leveraging it's own "victim" status, it's reflexive dismissal of ALL criticism, with empty ad hominems about "hateful bigotry", and "transphobia". Believers' cultish, unquestioning faith that THEY are the righteous crusaders for "equality" and "justice", while any critic CAN ONLY EVER be motivated by a cartoonish, villainous opposition to equal rights (no matter how much the critics demonstrate this false). The reflexive tendency to try to silence, censor and "deplatform" any critics, any way possible. The belief that it's justified to smear any critics, with the worst, most bad-faith accusations you think you can get away- Any critics are hateful bigots, they're "fascists" and "nahtzees", and "far right". They're racist white supremacists, who support raape and pdf filia. The pseudo-religious zealotry, and belief in their own status as righteous crusdaers for justice, which makes ALL the above seem acceptable, to the believer; These are ALL traits and tendencies that "gender" ideology borrowed from feminism. Not that women shouldn't have the right to advocate for themselves; Of course they should and do have that right. But as we see with "gender" ideology, and other variants of identity-politics, it's when advocacy over specific, valid issues, transforms into a narrative of universal "oppression" (which turns everyone else into "oppressors"), that you get this weird obsession with self-victimization, and an unquestionable, pseudo-religious zealotry, which is where things get cancerous...

So Rebecca Tuvel is afraid of the future, but doesn't see self identification as a problem. She needs to think a bit harder and make the connections. The fact that men have been allowed to be classed as women is the root of the problem. Everything else follows. When it stops and is reversed is the point we have a chance. Otherwise, it is the end.

I love Kathleen.

sorry, gonna have to bail on that vocal fry-y-y-y :(

gender is a social construct, seems like video uploader struggles with ethnocentrism

If people cannot agree to disagree there is no conversation.

Rebecca has an annoying smug voice

The irony is that the binary at the root of all this, is simple, observable and immutable. No wonder then that those who seek to upend that apple cart have to resort to clumsy and unreliable strategies that remind one of ancient and bizarre arguments such as the dancing angels & their pin.

Why are women fighting do hard for men to be in their spaces?

Support for sex change by the authorities in Europe is a purely political matter and because the policy of authority is always a matter of hegemony, we must think about how the authority that supports the transformation of boys into females or vice versa serves hegemony at a time when it appears to be support for freedom.. And because it appears to be support for freedom, the left that supports feminism found itself supporting sex change because the division between masculinity and femininity is a (cultural) issue and not a (natural) one, while the right considers that the nature of Islam is (Violence) A Muslim cannot be a transgender and convert to (peace) because Islamic violence is (natural) and not (cultural) and the right accuses the left of being anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian, but Israel supports homosexuality and transgenderism like the left and not like the right, and the right supports Israelis and so on.

I can barely listen to Tuvel - the gravel speak is abominable - never mind her ideas!

I was used as a breeding sow + punching bag for my transwoman partner for 10 years. It was BAD and I literally would not tolerate anyone telling me it was domestic abuse because I was being such a loyal cis ally. He wouldn't let me refuse intercrse bc it made him "dysphoric" I'm out and safe now, but I will be living with all the consequences of that male violence for LIFE. Gender identity ideology makes it impossible to analyze male violence When Rebecca says gender ideology has "never hurt anyone", I wish to invite her over to see my scars and home full of traumatized children

Kathleen is much more experienced in life. IMO Tht other little lady is all book knowledge and no common sense. She still needs to grow up and experience life more.

The irony of Stock’s situation is that the trans ‘debate’ (to the extent there is one among academic philosophers over the age of, say, 45, who have no experience or interest in ‘gender’ issues) is idiotically simple and mundane that it’s basically an after-thought to refute it. It’s not intellectually interesting or difficult enough for academic philosophers to waste time debunking such nonsense. It’s like trying to debunk Creationism in the 21st Century, or astrology. And yet, here we are. And the rest of Anglo-American analytic philosophy learned what happens if you speak common sense to the rainbow mafia. So they just shut up and keep their heads down. The braver ones refuse to indulge in pronouns - lots of lawsuits involving philosophy teachers. Good for them. Stock could not have imagined her life would revolve around such a stupid issue. But she’s the voice of reason we need.

how did this inarticulate, imprecise Tuvel woman get a PhD in Philosophy? "Let your freak flag fly! -JS Mill." Yikes.

I will tell you what I think makes you a woman. A girl is the person who has the least power in society. She gets told that boys can get away with anything, because “boys will be boys”. She is the type of person most targeted by predators, because she is the weakest. Accordingly, I think that a woman is someone who was once a girl.

Americans you have had one civil war. One. In the 1860s. It beggars belief that you are always so worried about another civil war breaking out at any moment.

This was very interesting. Thanks for putting it on TH-cam. ♥️

Let’s face it, it isn’t all single sex spaces that have been impacted. Trans men aren’t beating down the doors of male refuges. It’s women only spaces that are under siege.

1:23:22 Katherine Birbalsingh, Katherine Birbalsingh, Katherine Birbalsingh. Proof in the pudding

Elizabeth. You are either all in or all out for women and children. 👽 Kathleen you are quite patient having to sit near this fast food "philosopher."

I canNOT even beLIEVE my ears: “What is it about maleness that leads to violence?” Are you KIDDING ME? How is THIS women’s problem? How is it that THIS is the question being asked when we say “no” to men in women’s spaces? How is this even a THING???? I thought philosophy was about using LOGIC. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Love this! Love your channel! Show us more details of your chain cleaning contraption please 😊

Stock destroyed the other woman. The use of nonsense American language is also unhelpful. Validate, Identity etc

Using the word 'bravery' in an opening address about the ability to discuss indicates we have problems.......

The first time you used the word 'men' instead of trans women, i knew what you are, a TERF. We will push back, as you say, as long as you do not recognise trans people as who they are. You have the right to spread your misinformation about trans women, but you must expect people to react negatively to same. People know the truth and it's not the same old twisted factless lies you spread. Free speech and consequences go hand in hand.

All of these people that want men in women's spaces should then have to experience it first hand. You want men in women's prisons, then share a cell for month with one.

It’s such a pleasure to listen to you. your critics are not fond of reality.

CS Lewis got it right ✅️

This gender ideology is such a debasement of language and reality. Rebecca talked about a transwomen having a vagina. No Trans identified male has a vagina, they may have a wound in need of constant dilation but they don't have a vagina.

So sad to see Ms T's deficiencies so exposed, so easily. What is SHE on about it!! And why?

Kathleen wins hands down- women are suffering under this regime of authoritarianism based on men’s sexual privileges and the ranks of women co-opted against their own clear interests

Thank you, Heather. But, regrettably, the DEI police are not listening. What you point out is not in the university's agenda or in the best interests of thousands of incompetent students of color.

I admit I gave up after 11 minutes but I’m surprised that anyone could call this rambling self-serving talk intelligent. It may move to analysis and context at some point but shows no signs of it.

1:30:45 boo hoo cry a river 😂

1:28:56 you don’t get to redefine words according to your ideology woman. The left loves doing that