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It has been all my life. where do you believe it is ?

@@stanearle2214 It hasn't been for almost the last 60 years of your life. Nothing to do with believe, I know exactly where it is, and so do you. If you live in Upminster then the answer is in who you pay council tax to, if you don't live there but you own a business there then the answer is in who you pay business rates or whatever it is to. Like I said, you already know exactly where Upminster is, and you already know it ain't Essex.

@@DataDon-rl1mb I will look into it. funny thing is I have been putting Upminster Essex on all my government forms etc all my adult life. I am 66 so for probably over 50 years. Our gym is in Havering and i have always believed that Havering was in Essex. Come lift some weights anyway. First time free.

@@stanearle2214 Thanks for your offer 🏋️‍♂️

God became flesh ultimately to become the atoning sacrifice for all our sins. Jesus came to die for your sins and mine. This was his major purpose because our sins take us to hell eternal punishment. sin had to be paid for so Jesus paid our debt of sin fully in his death. as he had no sin he physically rose from the dead on the third day and met with his disciples and over 500 people all at once before he ascended back to heaven. We are commanded to repent, and to believe on Jesus for salvation. repent, ask Jesus to forgive all your sins, give your life to him and you get to know God. Most people have misunderstood but now you understand.

@@stanearle2214 there was no other option for this man other than dying so naturally to save his reputation you had to say he dies for sinners ha ha ifhe was god there was no need to save him he could have saved himself tell this story to a child not to other persons and don't trap innocent poor hindus with these stories and money in india

@@sureshv9114 You need to read the new testament and mix what you read with faith because you have little knowledge of who Jesus is and why he came to save us. You have listened to my message inspired by God and seem to think its just my opinion. If you read the holy bible new testament which is about 3 quarters of the way through the bible then you will see that what i have said is not just my opinion but the word of God as found written in Gods word the Holy bible. It would be good if you read Genesis chapter 1 chapter 2 and chapter 3 fist to see that before mans sin there was no death and that sin brought death into the world. I was not born again of the Spirit for the first nearly 32 years of my life and during that time i did not know God as I was separated from God by my sin even through God had risen me from the dead at 18 after a tragic motorcycle accident. I still needed to repent and call on Jesus to forgive me and surrender my life to him for me to be saved and reconciled to Father God. It was then my eyes were opened, and i literally saw the light. I am praying for you. I was prayed for and Jesus answered my aunties prayers and Jesus saved me. All glory to Jesus. God knows who you are, he sees you always.

@@stanearle2214 I am not abusing any religion I have read the new testament comprehensively it didnt maje any difference to me the book which made the difference was the Bhagwat Geeta which I owe much it transformed my life made me perfect I don't need any other book

@@sureshv9114 you read the bible without faith and never repented and come to know God and were never saved. Only Jesus forgives sin. Religion can not save anyone. Only Jesus the almighty can forgive and save all that come to him. Everyone have their choice to believe of reject and there eternal destination is at stake. i come in love and speak truthfully to you from God. You will remember my words.

No it’s under Essex