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It's awesome you have the kicad files available, and that PCBWay has a kicad plugin to translate it into a full, proper order with them. I've never used them before, though, so I am not sure exactly how to order what I want. Do you know if they offer something in between PCB-only and their full assembly option? I'd like to try my hand at soldering SMD, but I don't want to source all the parts. I see they have the option to make solder masks. I want "assembly, but skip the last part where you actually solder everything, and instead just dump all the boards, parts, and solder masks into a bag, and mail it to me that way, please."

I'm not sure if this is something even allowed by the Micro USB spec, but I was tricked this week into thinking I'd fried one of my Pico's. Just completely dead. I tried different USB ports, multiple computers, all three (3!) different spare Micro USB cables I could find... Turns out all three Micro USB cables I have on hand are POWER ONLY. No data connection. Literally the only devices I have that still use Micro USB are Raspberry Pi boards, and I apparently have zero micro USB data cables to spare. Micro USB ports are garbage (yeah, yeah, hot take), and it vexes me that anything is newly designed and manufactured with them. So when can I expect your Pico Pro to be available on Mouser and/or Digikey? 😂

The only thing I would have a problem with is soldering the RP2040 chip onto the board, looks fiddly to do this by hand.

Can you link the video?

Think you might sell them on crowd supply? these look like some fantastic improvements.

If it makes u feel any better. I made my pico with an AMS1117.

What's the cost delta?

por Why C++ and not C?

amen

i don't think you can just throw "wtf why i should disable interrupts while writing to flash" around that easily. first - i think people got too used to atmega chips that not only have internal flash but also have luxurious built in eeprom. second - rp2040 does not have built in flash memory (pointing that out just in case) and so it reads code via XIP from external memory chip - and you simply cannot erase/write to it while cpu fetches instructions from it. if you REALLY wanna do that (like if you wanna react real fast to interrupts), you should move your interrupt handlers code into RAM and remap vector table to tell the core that it's there now. but yeah this isnt really an intuitive and straightforward thing to do for some development platforms because they cover these levers under their hood (arduino, platformio etc.), so we are stuck with "wtf were devs of pico thinking" argument i guess. putting separate memory chip for nonvolatile storage helps, sure, but does not make your board as cheap for mass production as "wtf were they thinking" devs of pico board made it to be.

Now we need a Pro+ Variant with pin numbers

I guess one thing we are left wondering about is the power efficiency. I'm not familiar with the raspberry pi pico, but I'm guessing that it's more efficient than 3.3/5. Despite this probably irrelevent concern , great job on the design. It's really nice and improves on things that the original designers are probably embarassed to have forgotten.

Astonishing that they put Amundsen’s whole ship in a SOIC

Nice improvements, USB-C is definitely the way to go. You may also want to fix the USB VBUSDET connection, to connect to a pin that is defined for that function for the USB hard core on the chip. (it is not in the stock pick design) Though this may mean you'll need a customized BSP for the library config, if you want to properly use the functionality. The library as it is, when configured for a "pico" has some workarounds to use plain GPIO functionality to accomplish the goal. Though I can't remember if it was in the library itself, or just in the code for the examples. Either way the fix should be pretty easy. I'm looking to do the same for a board I'm designing, but still earlier in the development cycle than you.

please put the pinout mask on the top layer not bottom , put the ic on the bottom side :) :) :)

Without WiFi these are mostly not useful to me. Mostly I use these for remote device control.

i need this

hmm that Indian guy messed up and said PFM instead of PWM at 5:41

Is the data transfer happening over usb serial?

I still need to finish my own dumb pico board 🧌🧌🧌

I love these videos!

Really awesome video :) please keep posting

Hmm, I would also suggest a kinda niche but really interesting market. I know of this thing called the VoCore but it's from 2016. I think a coin sized computer could be done a lot better. If there was a board with a dual or quad core CPU, atleast 2-4gb of ram and a PCie slot like the VoCore that might actually be a really insane thing, especially because it would be a sbc in a somewhat microcontroller sized form factor.

Simply amazing 🎉

You meant to say USB-c is more fragile. Micro is better. Look micro has fragile cables and good connectors, C has fragile connectors and KINDA good cables. Micro is the easy choice there.

all this “pro” and no ENIG 😧

Well done 👍👍👍

Raspberry founda... Trading stopped improving their line for “normal” end user. Even though those were the ones that sit in companies, that later adapt these into their programs. Seems like it wasn't the smartest idea to become a sell out.

Who is using the ADC of a pico? Lol

do you know of the esp32?

Literally you said to Raspberry Pi: Skill Issues 🔥

lol you really nailed the pain points

GroundStudio Marble Pico is another "Pro" model of the Pico (I don't have the tools to see how much of an improvement it is over the og pico)

It's beyond PRO , just saying❤

I am currently designing a PCB with the RP2040, so this was quite a bit of help, thanks!

Congratulations with your hackaday article! Nice project!

I need this

Well done 👏👏 This should be the default board for the pico, maybe the Raspberry foundation will take note

a neopixel on there would be cool

You should also try to keep the mounting holes compatible with the original. This make transistion/upgrade much easier

another issue ... the pin labels are still on the bottom 🫠

I think that the usb C port on the pro pico should protrude from the pcb so that it can be panel mounted, for instance in a 3d printed case without the pcb being visible. I understand wanting to keep the same pcb dimensions though.

Doom still looks good, even with only 3 levels of brightness

Next iteration should honestly coprocess analog functions with a discrete ADC. Also a decent wireless chip. This would truly be an all-purpose pro board; a mini version, like Adafruit's QT Pi or Seeed's Xiao, would also be nice as an alternative but I also understand that we're starting to pack too many components onto one board. Honestly I just wish the Pi Foundation would release an RP2040 successor that has built-in wireless and an ADC that isn't utterly dogshit, plus more analog I/O would be nice, while still being cost competitive.

4:45 that's the ugliest Mickey I've ever seen... Wait, it's four dice

Brilliant. 👍😀

Super cool project. 👍

Type C? Shoulda used USB-B.

Cool!

You hit a market 😊 - Congratulations 🎉