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@@derekguenette6642 Well I have to part it out and sell the separate parts somehow😂

@@BigAlFishingAddiction thanks! That was a fun day

@@illtryanything1 They are great machines!

@@isickofit Thanks! It's been awesome for ice fishing already!

@@dr.froghopper6711 I've seen other posts of people doing that. It's a ton of fun carving in deep snow, so I wonder how the outriggers would affect that. Might make carving harder.

@@joebufford2972 Yup! Make it stupid simple

@@moejoe277 I'm confused, what skis? The skis from the snowmobile?

@@rottweiler9535 Ya! It's been an awesome machine!

Winter sports are the greatest! Best time of the year!

Thank you!

Thank you! It's been an awesome machine

@@GoofieNewfie69 Ya removing the bearings to remove the springs definitely could have been done. Suspension isn't useful in a track sled though. It makes it hard to turn because you're fighting against the suspension. I also needed to drop the tunnel down as far as possible to make it less top heavy and thus less tipsy. People haul 1,000 pounds with these and a 6.5hp all the time. Some even haul their shanty with them. It's got plenty of torque to do it, just depends on how you gear it. A gear ratio around 7 will definitely do the trick tho. So much more reliable than the old snowmobile. I can use it on dry ground for hauling deer/elk, and can use it for duck hunting, or yard work. I can take it on 3 inches of ice. Simple, cheap, and easy to repair. A lot of pro's over an old snowmobile.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors Well , I've only done three conversions and a I own a SnoDog and a Bolens Hus Ski 200 and my brother has a Diablo Rouge. They both have suspension. The Yamaha bravo using the Bravo motor is the best with light springs works much better than the Bolens. "People haul 1,000 pounds with these and a 6.5hp all the time." thats really cute. They don't haul, they crawl. Your 6 hp could barely haul you up the hill. And i looked around at these youtube sleds, they are only good enough for kids on the flat. The ones that are fast or hauling heavy gear at least 10 or 12 hp rebaged to look like smaller motors. My GSXR 650 has a 1100 motor in it , bike still looks like a 650 But since you have many more years experience than i in fabricating and using snow machines, you know better than I. As for reliability, those old 500's go for tens of thousands of miles . they are not as good as the Yamahas or rotax, but are reasonably tough. Only problem with conversions is you have to use heavier weights in the primary

@@GoofieNewfie69 😂😂😂 Literally nothing I said was false. If you're not sitting on a track sled, then you're fighting against it to turn. The bigger the motor, the more top heavy it is. The higher the track sled, the more tipsy it is. They'll haul a lot of weight in snow and up hills. I can use it on dry ground so it's so much more versatile than an old snowmobile for what I'm using it for. Your experience is high, but I just had to repeat myself 👀 If you want to fix up an old snowmobile and use that then go right on ahead. There are definitely a couple pros of doing that.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors Is that why a 6 hp lawn mower motor ca barley pull 350 pounds up a little hill

@@mrglasecki Haha yup! It looks pretty cool when you have a long train of sleds behind you

Thanks! It's been an awesome machine for ice fishing!

@@feekey21 Nothing bugs me more than commenting on a video and getting a reply several months later😂 Hope you enjoyed this video🎣

@@wolfbushcraft3369 Ya I love how you can take it on dry land and ice/snow! Great machine

Thanks for watching! It's been a game changer for ice fishing!

@@iimillah1414 Oops sorry, I just realized it's not in the description. redboarchain.com/collections/sprockets?page=32&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiApY-7BhBjEiwAQMrrEagXG8xAEMkcc9oM43UKbp-ti3y4CC8m35t3WpqqOZ6emGFODXlm5xoCoX0QAvD_BwE

Thanks for watching!

@@obi1kahnobee549 Thank you! I really tried making this video a One-Stop shop and as thorough as I could. It's been an awesome machine this season already!

Thanks! It's been an awesome machine! Game changer for ice fishing

@@JohnSeaward Dang, that would be such a sweet class!!! Having this machine in high school would have been a blast 😂

@shandonbradfordoutdoors it was the last year that they offered this to the advance students, me I was done 5 yrs of course in 3 yrs so I became the t.a. for the last 2 yrs and just a lil fyi the long body gives you float ability in deep powder and a short body gives you power and fast turning and close quarters turning abilities, and back then we used Boogie wheels instead of a slider system which makes for a bit of a lighter body but at the end of the day it's more about using what you have and when u have it and make it work for you and always remember there will be failures but then also alot fun and learning to be had from doing these which can be a huuuuuge blast when it comes to play time or work time lol ( living as a kid we used firewood for heat and the work part was hooking up a sled throwing a chainsaw and axe and ropes into the sleigh and going to get wood, or using the track and motor portion to pull vehicles outta the back road ditches or snow drifts lol ) adventures of a northern Canadian kid growing up in the bush lol, anyhow great job and hope you many great adventures with your builds

@@BrentYuers Thanks! It's been a great machine!

@@raydreamer7566 There's 2 reasons. It makes it easier to carve/turn, because you don't have to fight against it. Secondly it lowers your center of gravity making it less tipsy. If it's too high track sleds get tipsy and top heavy.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors Thank you for your reply and explanation.

@@raydreamer7566 No problem! Sometimes people will keep the front suspension, but I've never driven one like that yet

@@bradhansen4312 Thank you! I like the 212. It's got plenty of power, and I could just put a smaller sprocket on if I ever wanted it to go faster. I only weigh 135 pounds as well, so having the lighter set up is nice when it comes to handling it. I also tried making it light so my Corolla could haul it around😂. It totaled in the fall tho, so now I have a truck that hauls. It does everything that I need it to, so I'm happy with the 212!

The original motor is way too heavy, and would make the track sled too top heavy and tipsy. Also want something new and reliable where I don't have to worry about it.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors I never thought about that. After I watched this great video, I went to see what other people were doing, and not one used the old motor. Good job, man. I enjoyed this. I guess it would depend if you wanted speed or strickly for getting from point A to B. 2 thumbs up man.

@@AngrySpaghetti1967 Thank you! I may gear it differently in the future to add a bit more speed. It's got plenty of torque and will lose traction before power, so adding a bit more speed wouldn't hurt anything. Fun build! It's been amazing for icefishing this season already.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors I wish I had the tools and know how to do half of what you have done, I have great ice fishing here in Alberta Canada. thanks again!!

@@AngrySpaghetti1967 Does Canada have a harbor freight? The saws, grinders, and welders there are so cheap! Like $25 for a grinder. Super affordable if you get everything there.

@@seventhson9441 Haha, I agree! Some cup holders and rod holders would be awesome on it, and will be added soon! Thanks for watching🎣

Haha, I hadn't thought about that but it totally is Mad Max looking😂 I've since painted it which makes it look a little nicer. It's got plenty of power and torque, I'll lose traction before I lose anything else. It was a fun build and has been an awesome machine!

Cvt 🎉

@@mmuller2402 Works great!🎉

@@boosted_2j Ya it would rip around pretty good then😂

@@senorjp21 Thank you! I got tired of having to look at a handful of sources so wanted to make it as complete as possible. It seems like keeping or removing the suspension is a hot debate. I've read that removing it makes it easier to turn and make it less tipsy because it's lower to the ground. I have a buddy that left his suspension in and I'll have to compare the two.

@@McCullochMac6 Thanks! It's been awesome for icefishing and getting to different lakes!

@@jaredboballen68 Thanks! It's a super simple and reliable machine! The great thing about it is if the motor ever breaks down, I can get a new one at Harbor Freight for 150 bucks. That sounds like a great donor sled to use! TH-cam has been a lot of fun for me. I've met some great people through it, and it's opened up a lot of opportunities for me. Definitely a lot of work though! But it's cool saving these memories at the very least.

@@coopernickerson7470 Thank you! It's been a blast having it so far

@@PatterningNature Thank you! I made this video because I got tired of looking up all these resources on how to make one. I could never find all the information in one spot, so I tried making this video as thorough and honest as possible. I'm trying to get through pharmacy school as well so I had to keep it simple, and as cheap as possible haha. I'll have to watch some of your videos. I plan to use this track sled for coyote hunting and trapping as well.

@@shandonbradfordoutdoors When in doubt... do it yourself, eh!?!?! Best of luck in school my friend!!! I will sub to you - I cannot wait for your trapping to begin!!! My focus is hunting Wolves with my Rifle over a bait, but I just got my trappers licence so now I am going to do some snaring!

@@PatterningNature Awesome! Ya I'll definitely check it out then

@@resurrectiongarage1506 This track sled is so much more reliable than an older snowmobile! It has a brand new motor. If something were to ever happen, just buy a new motor for $150. It's also just super simple to work on and fix. If you watch the end I can even haul it around behind a Toyota Corolla on a cargo carrier. No trailer needed. I have taken it on 3 inches of ice several times already as well, it only weighs 200 pounds and has a big footprint, so I'd fall thru walking out before it would. I also hunt a lot and can use it on dry dirt to haul out a deer or an elk. I can even use it to haul all my decoys and stuff out to duck hunt in a field.

@ I see your point, it is a lot simpler than a snowmobile, and transport would be easier. My curiosity has been answered. As a mechanic I tend to forget that what comes easy to me may not come easy to others. Plus I guess it would be pretty easy to mount an ammo can and keep spare recoil, ignition coil, spark plug and even a spare carburetor on board for your machine and it would be cheap, the parts I mentioned could be had for under fifty bucks. How hard is it on the knees ?

@@resurrectiongarage1506 I was I had more mechanic knowledge that's for sure! It has an ammo can on it now with a spare chain, belt, and tools in it, but I didn't think about those other things. I'll have to start getting them! There are some pros and cons to both that's for sure though. Track sleds don't do as well in slush, and are obviously slower than snowmobiles. I don't find it hard on the knees at all, especially in powder. Some people make a seat for their sled to sit in as well while they're driving.

@ I’m an old lard ass, I better stick to snowmobiles. I used to race them 25 years ago, but that part of my life is gone now. I’ve seen devices like this in Russia but I always just figured they used them because they didn’t have the money for a snowmobile. I guess you could pull a wheeled trailer and use it in the summer too

Yea it seems weird to me as well. You take a 50hp machine that you can sit on, tear it down. Then build something similar to the first one ever built. But why? From 50mph to 11. 😂

@@BeatnTheSkunk Thanks you! It's been a great machine

@@joshanderson1019 Ya I do want to get a smaller sprocket. It's got plenty of torque, it loses traction well before losing torque so I definitely have some to trade out for speed. Thanks for watching!

@@totallossmac5079 I did yes. Did just to get rid of it quick

@@Anger-i6n Thank you, thanks for watching!

@@Converterguy Thank you! Thanks for watching

I wish I could fish them too😂

@@dlansburg2673 It's a fun, and simple build! Easy to learn. Thank you! When you build one, message me on here if you have any questions👍

@@danielhannah3535 Lots of good early ice fishing there! There's a lot more lakes locked up now tho too

@@BigAlFishingAddiction Thanks Al, It's funny looking back on these older videos