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Battery Basics: Types of Li-ion Batteries
The battery basics series is dedicated to more fundamental battery topics. This episode explains what different formats of lithium ion cells exist. The video also covers the different types of chemistry that are commonly used. And finally, one common naming convention of rechargeable batteries is explained.
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Battery Fires - What happens in a Thermal Runaway?
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Battery fires in the news catch regularly the attention of an increasing audience. But most people don't know what is happening if a lithium ion battery catches fire or explodes. In this video, I will explain, what is happening during such a battery fire and why this so called thermal runaway is dangerous if it occurs. Throughout the video, I am referring to the following papers and resources: ...
Battery Safety: What does deep discharge and overdischarge mean and why is it dangerous?
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Lithium ion batteries are regularly in the news because of individual batteries catching fire. But most people don't know, what mechanisms are actually causing a safety threat. In this video, you will learn what deep discharging of Lithium ion cells means, what overdischarge is, and in which cases it poses a safety risk and why. Throughout the video, I am referring to the following papers and r...
Battery Safety: How does a bottom vent help against exploding batteries? (18650, 21700, vent)
มุมมอง 4.7K2 ปีที่แล้ว
Lithium ion batteries are regularly in the news because of individual batteries catching fire. But most people don't know, what mechanisms are in place to keep batteries safe. In this video, you will learn how an additional bottom vent structure can help avoiding an explosion or uncontrolled breach of the cell housing in case of a thermal runaway. Throughout the video, I am referring to the fol...
Battery Safety: What is a Mandrel?
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Lithium ion batteries are regularly in the news because of individual batteries catching fire. But most people don't know, what mechanisms are in place to keep batteries safe. In this video, you will learn what the mandrel (also center pin or winding core) is, how it works and why it is important to prevent battery fires and explosions. In addition, you will also learn when it can cause a probl...
Battery Safety: What is a Positive Temperature Coefficient (PTC) device?
มุมมอง 5K2 ปีที่แล้ว
Lithium ion batteries are regularly in the news because of individual batteries catching fire. But most people don't know, what mechanisms are in place to keep batteries safe. In this video, you will learn what the Positive Temperature Coefficient (PTC) element is, how it works and why it is important to prevent battery fires and explosions. Additionally, you will also learn when it does not wo...
Battery Safety: What is a Current Interrupt Device (CID)? (18650, 21700, vent)
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Lithium ion batteries are regularly in the news because of individual batteries catching fire. But most people don't know, what mechanisms are in place to keep batteries safe. In this video, you will learn what the Current Interrupt Device (CID) is, how it works and why it is important to prevent battery fires and explosions. The paper I am referring to can be found at doi.org/10.1016/j.est.202...

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  • @keena1326
    @keena1326 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good Video...thanks!

  • @portalkeeper978
    @portalkeeper978 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need some help if you don’t mind sharing some of your knowledge. I bought some battery pack modules each with a BMS. The modules came from factory robots. I have not even opened the shipping box to measure voltages of these modules. The modules have lg m50lt lithium ion cells. I was taking a look at the data sheets online and could not find information on how to properly store them for greater than 2 years. I have been storing them in their shipping box for a little over one year now, but I’m not entirely sure if I need to discharge and then charge them once in a while. Would you be able to give me some instruction on how to preserve these cells? Thank you very much for your time and information.

  • @pratikdesai8355
    @pratikdesai8355 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. But given the last statement about the dangers of trying to re-establish continuity of an activated CID, I feel like that should be in the opening statement and video title. Slightly off emphasis aside, great video nonetheless, thanks for making it.

  • @x0mmexx0mmex69
    @x0mmexx0mmex69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, thanks, now i know how to revieve my batteries ❤

  • @x0mmexx0mmex69
    @x0mmexx0mmex69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, thanks, now i know how to revieve my batteries ❤

  • @ar_pe4012
    @ar_pe4012 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found your channel today. Your information is extremely valuable and very well researched. I just built an electric motorcycle with 8,4kWh capacity and your videos do pretty much confirm my thoughts but also make me more secure in having built it the proper way. Thank you!

  • @gabrielconstantine7384
    @gabrielconstantine7384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I reset one dead 18650 the other day. It came to life showing 2.60 volts. Charged it normally, it remained cool throughout the charge and is now still holding at 4.11 volts. Seems good.

  • @norwayblackmetal1
    @norwayblackmetal1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very educational

  • @harshchaturvedi9507
    @harshchaturvedi9507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear sir, Are PTC and CTD used in Prismatic and pouch cells?

  • @Gregorius421
    @Gregorius421 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well explained! Looking forward to the next video. 🙂

  • @jamesrossman5054
    @jamesrossman5054 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Asking permission to use your videos for my educational videos in concerns to changes to the 2026 National Electrical Code? All my videos are nonprofit for educational purposes. Jacob Riddle Edu.

  • @anasmoustafa7286
    @anasmoustafa7286 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant explanation, loved it.

  • @thedogxy
    @thedogxy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very good, thank you.

  • @madcow3417
    @madcow3417 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the info! I have a fully charged battery that I accidentally shorted. I fixed the short, but the the CID tripped. I don't trust this cell for use since you said the pressure went way up meaning something weird happened to the chemistry. None of the reset videos talk much about what actually happens in the battery, just where to stick a screwdriver. I'm going to try to reset the CID (outdoors, with PPE on) so I can discharge it for safer recycling.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and your feedback! Please be careful with that. You can dispose the cell also without the reset and discharge.

  • @przemekostrowski5836
    @przemekostrowski5836 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. We are making a battery powered (Li-Ion) device at work. The original design assumes that the device goes to sleep when it is not used, however it can never be completely turned off and it always drains the battery. How big of a problem is that in your opinion?

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, thanks for watching and your question. If your device can discharge the battery below the limit specified by the cell manufacturer, it is a potential safety hazard. I would propose a two step safety approach to avoid deep discharge. 1. send the device to sleep mode whenever possible and prevent wake up if one of the cell voltages drops below e.g. 3V. 2. switch off the device completely if the cell voltage drops below e.g. 2.5V. The values for the limits depend on your specific cell. In any case, you should prevent recharge of the battery in case it was deep discharged. Hope that helps!

  • @themartinandersson
    @themartinandersson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I fully discharge a battery and I let it just sit somewhere forever in a fully discharged state. Is this dangerous? Or is it, the RECHARGE after full discharge that is dangerous? I can only pick up hints from this video and other sources online that is actually the activity of recharging which is the dangerous part, yet y'all keep saying "deep discharging is dangerous". Is this just sloppiness on your end or is it really the act of depleting all energy from a battery that is dangerous (in my uneducated, yet logical brain, this doesn't make much sense lol)?

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, you are right, it is the recharge that causes the problem. Deep discharge is only dangerous if you don't detect it and prevent recharge.

  • @poccodroid9464
    @poccodroid9464 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb and most needed to be acknowledged containt...!! Rightly said that there are numerous videos showing revival of such batteries those have become unchargable due to overcharging induced gas formation leading to disruption of cap contect. This kind of videos should always be made awailable with all languages support like few movies, as Manny unfortunate, poorly literate users or utubers , then will have advantage of your knowledge sharing...Thanks a ton friend.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and your feedback! Very much appreciated!

  • @bro7269
    @bro7269 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been safety testing cylindrical lithium ion cells for some time. I just want to add my 2 cents. While the safety mechanisms are there to prevent thermal runaway, there is no guarantee that they do. I've overcharged cells that have had both the CID open and have vented but still go into TR. The threat is still there. Having one cell in the middle of a pack with already elevated temperature is the worst situation. The surrounding cells will prevent the suspect cell from cooling and increasing the risk of TR. In our systems we are counting on the charger system, mechanical system and monitoring systems to prevent these things but we still have returns from the field because this. It pains me to see people building power walls in their homes because I know it only takes one cell in a batch 3000-4000 to turn the house into a smoldering mess. Chinese manufacturing is still suspect. Please be careful and understand all the safety issues surrounding these cells. Edit: Watching people pry at the tops of the cells with a screwdriver and/or other conductive tool is just crazy. This can cause the CID to touch the collector thereby reconnecting the current path. Please don't do it....!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and your comment! I fully agree. Even if the likelihood with cells from quality brands is small, there is always a remaining risk that a single cell is faulty or develops a fault over lifetime.

  • @danielreyesmartinez6361
    @danielreyesmartinez6361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelent explanation! It was very clear, will look for the SEI video

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback. Very much appreciated! I hope I'll soon find the time to continue with the series....

  • @keenowl1410
    @keenowl1410 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Thank you so much for your video. I had the same questions you answered. I tried very delicately to pry the nickel tabs off of the negative side of the battery. And no matter what method I seemed to use, being as gentle as I could possibly be, I always seemed to leave a tiny pin size hole on the flat negative bottom side of the battery. Hearing a quick hiss and a sweet smell. I stopped trying to remove nickel tabs from the negative side and just cut them down as close as I can. But I always wondered about that quick hiss and sweet smell. Is it you opinion that this was part of the CID protection or electrolyte or lithium or something else? I always see people man handling these when prying off these nickel tabs with plyers screwdriver etc. And wonder how many have had the same experience and just ignored it. Thank you so much for your time and thoughts.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and your question, and apologies for my delayed response! The CID is located underneath the positive terminal. The negative terminal is on a thin steel wall. If you have a good welding connection, the cell wall is the weakest point and it rips a small hole in the cell can. The hiss is the internal pressure that forms inside the cell and escapes through the small hole. The sweet smell is the electrolyte vapor that is also harmful to breathe in. In any case, the cell is damaged afterwards and should not be used anymore!

  • @oleksii.zagorskyi
    @oleksii.zagorskyi ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your efforts to make these videos!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback. Very much appreciated!

  • @AstroTomK
    @AstroTomK ปีที่แล้ว

    Moses, that's scary stuff. I know electronics but the hidden dangers of the electro-chemical reactions, watched a few of your videos. When batteries go low usually think of low potential energy but the Anode rises. Now I understand so much. There is so many idiots with little understanding on TH-cam, and TH-cam encourages the idiots to get views. I had a look on Odysee for you, not there. Thanks You Moses.

  • @bandittwothree3765
    @bandittwothree3765 ปีที่แล้ว

    thoughts on why Sony is using 26-58 bar (377-841psi)? @4:50 It seems like quite a high pressure for an intentional vent

  • @mrlillebroder
    @mrlillebroder ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel. Very interesting! Looks forward to see more from you!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback. Very much appreciated!

  • @ShivamVerma786
    @ShivamVerma786 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, For sharing knowledge on such an important topic.

  • @rf1133
    @rf1133 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an inspiring video! May I please ask a question about the figure at 1 min: why there is a sudden voltage drop when the current becomes -3.4 from 0 (start of safe discharge)? Thanks for your time!

  • @usturakemal7
    @usturakemal7 ปีที่แล้ว

    well prepared and quite informative video. congrats.

  • @premkarthikmanoharan6395
    @premkarthikmanoharan6395 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Explanation!! But we had a scenario of a 48V 15Ah NMC pack which went in to deep discharge by keeping it Idle for several days and OCV is around 9V. Then we tried to charge at 1A , then slightly increased to 5A when it reaches 16V . But thermal runaway happened at 28V . What could be the major reason in this?? Any clues

  • @furkankaya77
    @furkankaya77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you from Turkey

  • @kundeleczek1
    @kundeleczek1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are top notch. Pls, provide us with more knowledge.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your kind feedback. Planning to do so in the future but will take some time after moving and changing job.

  • @kundeleczek1
    @kundeleczek1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Activating CID is crazy crazy idea.

  • @kundeleczek1
    @kundeleczek1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Very informative. I thought there will be tone of videos about types Lithium cells on YT but there are few and yours is the best.

  • @sayantanjana7571
    @sayantanjana7571 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what about cell balancing in electric vehicle? Should we deep discharge (soc 10% or lower) and the. Recharge to 100% for better cell balancing and battery health....or is this practice bad

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your question. As long as your BMS works correctly, it should at least not harm your battery (preventing deep discharge) . If it is beneficial or not depends on the balancing strategy implemented. In general, a good system should not require a full discharge for proper operation.

  • @davidmizak4642
    @davidmizak4642 ปีที่แล้ว

    You provide such great material to your viewers. I appreciate all of your hard work. I truly appreciate it!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback. Very much appreciated!

  • @abhimanyugoyal5659
    @abhimanyugoyal5659 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice. i dont find these details anywhere else other than research papers.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your nice feedback. Very much appreciated!

    • @abhimanyugoyal5659
      @abhimanyugoyal5659 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moses I am going to send these videos to atleast 20 colleagues who are working in selecting battery for our EV fleet. Thank you.

  • @abhimanyugoyal5659
    @abhimanyugoyal5659 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video.

  • @arian770618
    @arian770618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for next videos

  • @MA-jg9dx
    @MA-jg9dx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video👍👍👍I'm definitely subscribing

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback! Very much appreciated!

  • @dakotabass42
    @dakotabass42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you do for your day job?

    • @dakotabass42
      @dakotabass42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate your videos!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback! Very much appreciated!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am leading the battery research team of a power tool company

    • @dakotabass42
      @dakotabass42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meandthebattery9628 your videos are excellent. I have worked in the field for a while and most people don’t truly understand it well enough to explain the concepts to others

    • @kundeleczek1
      @kundeleczek1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@meandthebattery9628 Hilti?

  • @Peter_A1466
    @Peter_A1466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just replaced the 18650 cell in a powerbank. The powerbank circuit board and other contacts were nearly pristine, but I noticed the top cap of the cell is corroded. Is this an indication that it most likely vented?

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your question (and sorry for my late response). Venting usually occurs together with high temperatures, so you would definitely see some impact on the other components. My guess would be, that there either was some electrolyte leakage or some water that caused the corrosion.

  • @hommerdalor6301
    @hommerdalor6301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the good information.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and providing your feedback!

  • @user-ri2rz8ot5k
    @user-ri2rz8ot5k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!! This video is very helpful for me~!

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching and your feedback.

  • @tejeshav7949
    @tejeshav7949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing work. Appreciate it.

  • @gamunujayasinghe3829
    @gamunujayasinghe3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video . Very informative and clear explanation . Sir , thank you so much . I am from Sri Lanka .

  • @gamunujayasinghe3829
    @gamunujayasinghe3829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video . Sir , thank you so much for shearing your knowledge . I am from Sri Lanka .

  • @indieelectroworks
    @indieelectroworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content on youtube is golden and you seem to be well educated on the topic! I would really enjoy like to see you cover more topics on li-ion batteries or on pack design safety precautions (for example case studies on existing designs by certain manufacturers).

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your feedback! I'll keep it in mind and see if I can get to it in the future.

    • @mrschnider6521
      @mrschnider6521 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i cant hear what he is saying.

  • @manjulabw
    @manjulabw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it safe push back the pin and power up battery again.

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and your question. No, it is not safe!!!

  • @yazhengli4310
    @yazhengli4310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The graphit on the copper current collector will have very poor "arrtion"?

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adhesion. It will not stick to the copper any more since the copper surface dissolves

  • @dilipdas5777
    @dilipdas5777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My lithium battery has sometimes no output current during operation but when I shake the battery it's giving current. Is it CID fault

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, thanks for watching and the question. I can't imagine that it is the CID. I would bet on a bad contact somewhere in the assembly but to tell for sure, it would require a detailed analysis.

  • @saschab4082
    @saschab4082 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I have a question. Do you know why the released gases from a battery start to burn? Where does the spark come from? So what is the source of ignition?

    • @meandthebattery9628
      @meandthebattery9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your question! The ignition happens mostly by the heat generated internally during thermal runaway. But it can also be from an external source like a glowing wire or connector in case of an external short.