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Yeah it will be interesting to see how much less it makes. I’m still surprised by how much audiences are enjoying it tbh. It was so incoherent at times

I definitely thought it’d be in the 60 range, looks like your in the majority this time 😏

They are absolutely wonderful in this. Fairly certain awards season will be fruitful for them

Yeah I don’t think the Academy wants to give him any more attention haha

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It really was a lot of fun. If you want an interesting experience you can go watch the full SNL first episode over at Peacock

Welcome and thanks for stopping by!

Thanks! Did you get to see it?

The film truly is much better than what the reviews are saying. Did you see it?

Thanks so much! The hate for this still astounds me!

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Seriously I’ve been reading up on him and he could have his own film for sure

It definitely snuck up on me! I think they didn’t do a ton of marketing because the Trumps were apparently threatening to sue, but that’s just my opinion. Both guys seriously give Oscar worthy performances

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen wow okay... also looking forward to that other sebastian stan film. you mentioned you're a film maker?

I am! Started at Marvel back in 2009. Writer/director/producer since then doing mostly non profit narrative work. Also been working on an animated feature the past 2 years 🙂

Directing is so hard to quantify because each scene is so packed with vision and creativity. I can admit that as a whole package the film struggled towards the finish line and that also reflects direction. I just appreciate the journey he took Arthur on. Thanks for stopping by!

I agree with you! I was pretty disappointed with how it ended. I saw a few videos today talking about there may have been alternate endings

I felt super self conscious saying it 😂😂😂

Yeah I think it’s one of those films that will gain a solid fandom with time. The musical aspect really stumbles along throughout the film and that’s what’s really influencing the low scores. This film is almost worth a screening simply because of the gorgeous cinematography

Thanks for commenting Zach! Always appreciate when you stop by 😄. I don’t know if the story felt thin to me, it felt more clunky. I really like the exploration of the theory of two identities. I think if they had leaned a bit more into that while incorporating Harley a bit more I think this would’ve hit exactly what it needed to for audiences.

I do think opinions will change over time with this. How was it against the fans of the original? Just curious about your thoughts there.

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen He pretty much undid everything that was done in the first movie. It was like a slap in the face to the amazing work he had done in the first film. Having Arthur feel bad for what he did and not want to be the ‘Joker’ anymore after gaining a following. Making this movie a musical with nothing adding to the plot made it boring to watch tbh. It had some good dramatic scenes that was cherished in the first film but the unnecessary singing that didn’t elaborate or expand the plot was annoying. We wanted to see more of Arthur being the ‘Joker’ not him feeling bad for his crimes in court. To be honest, the first half of court of Arthur portraying as ‘The Joker’ was actually entertaining because he really didn’t care. I was expecting him and Lee to cause alot of chaos in this film. I did not expect it to be the film we have seen. Now if it showed Arthur portraying as ‘The Joker’ representing himself in court and wins and show how corrupt Gotham really is (and it could’ve shown the turn of Harvey Dent by losing to a criminal like Joker) then boy that would’ve been an interesting film. The Joker is a fictional character set in a fictional world everything doesn’t have to be so serious you know BUT i did like Todd Phillips take on Arthur. I thought his take on the origin of the ‘Joker’ comparing it to mental illness and the dangers of it to society was unique and never done before with the character. I really didn’t mind that ending either. It’s just a shame that you could tell that Todd gave zero f’s about the sequel like he did with The Hangover 3 when he didn’t want to do another sequel. I hope i answered your question 😅

Very thorough take! I agree that the potential of a much better film feels like a loss. I don’t know if he really felt sorry for what he did, rather, he felt sorry that this is what his life had become. It’s almost like the film represented the stages of grief in his own journey through mental illness. He basically lost everything because no one ever truly cared. Then along comes Harley, but she doesn’t want all of Arthur, she just wants Joker. This existential identity crisis is what I think Todd wanted the core of the film to be. It just got muddled up in the clunky middle musical.

That is a completely valid feeling. We spent a ton of time with Arthur and not Joker. That balance was also very similar to the first one though as well.

Totally! It’s sad because I thought that some of the early uses of music were so well done

Love this take. It felt very connected to the first film and effectively expanded on the development of Arthur

No problem, enjoy!

Truly an incredibly memorable experience! It’s been a long time since I’ve been in a movie theater with that many people crying, including myself. Hits even harder to all the parents out there

We will be going to see the movie for sure. Thanks for this review.

I’m glad someone got some enjoyment out of it haha

Very educated and informed opinion. Thanks for stopping by 🙂

Never seems that show but I’m definitely going to check it out now. A young Antony Starr show is very intriguing

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@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen no problem

Nice! I haven’t seen First Blood in a long time, maybe it’s time to revisit it.

I did think the ending was a bit lacking but audiences are enjoying it. What are some recommendations in the same space?

I agree movie was ok. I think it's getting a bunch of notoriety because a lot of females are glazing the main character. Movie was good but super overhyped

It interesting to think if the film would’ve been received differently if Boyega had stayed in the lead role

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen yeah that is kind of interesting to think about🤔. All in all dude did a good job and had that calm but menacing screen presence. Boyega would have done his thing but ultimately he wouldn't have that same presence imo.

I totally agree, I liked the energy from Pierre

Thanks so much! Hopefully more deep dives in the future 🙂

Right!? It was so baffling to me that they left him out completely. Gary Oldman won for Darkest Hour which was a good performance but not nearly as dynamic and impactful as McAvoy’s

Absolutely some comedic moments. This film is a great example of amazing pacing and timing. Lots of moments were very well executed and led to a great theater experience. Thanks for your perspective!

Can it be considered a unique film if it's a remake? The endings are extremely different, though.

Great question. I think that remakes in film can be unique because a director always brings something new to the table creatively even if it is the same story.

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen out of curiosity, have you seen the 2022 film? Because I don't want to spoil anything if you haven't.

I have not, but I plan on going back and watching it soon

Definitely had a distinct vibe. I really appreciated Penn and Sheridans performances here even though it was so intense

It’s just so weird that it’s sitting at a 78% on rotten tomatoes right now with how bad it was

I am glad that others enjoyed the film, just wish it could’ve been stronger narratively

Worst movie

This is ultimately how I felt haha, but not everyone likes the same things 🤷‍♂️

The multiple writers thing is very likely, I think there were at least three listed on the film. I really do wonder sometimes who is in charge of the story on these films. There was definitely evidence of a strong story present in the mess. I think if they have leaned further into Jenna’s arc and how it impacted her family and Beetlejuice the film would have been so much more compelling. I think the studios come in and make demands and it often forces the head creatives to make bad decisions. Really appreciate your input here!

Totally agree here. There were moments that made me laugh but ultimately they tried to do too many narratives. If they had cut Delores and Wolf Jackson’s storylines the movie would have been much stronger imo

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen Well when you have too many people implemented in the movie, someone gonna get less of a role and it sucks for them. Wolf Jackson storyline. I dont know why he was there. Basically, he was just posing and self motivation.

Yep, also getting some buzz for having Dafoe in your movie. He gave a believable performance it just didn’t matter to the story. It almost felt like they had written two different films and then the studio was like “smash these together and make it work” 🤦‍♂️

@@TheMovieMinute-wMichaelAllen that what it seems like to me.

Gibbons approved is all I need 😏

There are definitely some things that stuck with me though. Some of these AI things are going to happen and it’s gonna be crazy

I don’t know, I think it gave the surgery scene a run for its money haha

Thanks so much! Glad you’re here!

Thanks man! Fede definitely knocked it out of the park in my opinion!

Thanks! Tried a little something different this time around, thanks for noticing!