Hermode Tuning
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Ludwig van Beethoven, Symphony No.V, arranged for two Pianos
Two virtual pianos play this Symphony in dynamic controlled just intonation, 357 limit, basing in the Hermode Tuning system. Btw: Well educated orchestras perform their music in a similar tuning mood.
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วีดีโอ

Rubinstein Romance In E flat * in just intonation
มุมมอง 3522 ปีที่แล้ว
Created with a virtual piano. Hermode Tuning controls its intonation dynamically to just intonation.
W.A. Mozart * Ouverture Zauberfloete * by a pipe organ in just intonation and in equal temperament
มุมมอง 8703 ปีที่แล้ว
Edtited with Logic and its Hermode Tuning function.
Antonin Dvorak: Slavonic Dance Op.46 No.2 in just intonation
มุมมอง 5323 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with Apple-Logic and its Hermode Tuning function for just intonation. The sound comes from a virtual Fazioli piano.
Beethoven - Sonata No. 23 "Appassionata" by a fortepiano in just intonation
มุมมอง 8383 ปีที่แล้ว
The sound bases in a Hammerklavier, built by Stein in Augsburg in 1795. The default mastertune level is a' = 432 Hz. Edited with Logic, the intonation is controlled by its Hermode Tuning feature to fifths, thirds and sevenths in just intonation.
Josef Haydn Sonata 49 in E-flat by a Fortepiano in just intonation
มุมมอง 3533 ปีที่แล้ว
(Release with optimized dynamics). This Sonata is edited with Logic, the intonation is corrected by its Hermode Tuning feature to thirds, fifths and sevenths in just intionation. The sound basis is a original historic fortepiano, built by Stein in Augsburg in 1795.
Joseph Haydn: Sonata 50, Hob.XIV 37 in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 3603 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with samples (sounds) of a historic Stein Piano, built in 1793. The intonation is corrected dynamically by the Hermode Tuning technology to pure fifths and thirds and to natural sevenths. The basic mastertune level is a'=432 Hz.
Franz Liszt - Rigoletto Paraphrase in just intonation
มุมมอง 5313 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with LOGIC with the help of its Hermode Tuning function and a virtual Fazioli piano.
Franz Schubert: Rosamunde Entr'acte Musik No 2 for wind instruments
มุมมอง 2794 ปีที่แล้ว
Virtual instruments imitating the dynamic just intonation of human musicians. Their intonation behavior is controlled by Hermode Tuning.
Franz Schubert * Sonata 18 * D 894 * in just intonation
มุมมอง 4644 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with LOGIC and a virtual Fazioli piano. The recording is dynamically controlled to just intonation by the Hermode Tuning function.
W. A. Mozart - Piano Sonata K 576 in just intonation
มุมมอง 1.6K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with the sounds of an original Stein Piano, built at Augsburg in 1793. Its original mastertune of A' = 418 Hz is maintained but dynamically modified to just intonation by Hermode Tuning.
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No.6 in transcription for sacral organ
มุมมอง 3.6K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with virtual organ sounds in living just intonation. Intonation controlled by Hermode Tuning
Richard Wagner "Einzug der Gaeste", performed with a Church Organ
มุมมอง 5704 ปีที่แล้ว
This composition originally was recorded with the organs of the Freiburg Minster and as usual with a traditional fixed tuning model. This recording was subsequently revised with an audio editing program (Melodyne) to a dynamic tuning with fifths and thirds near to just intonation, basing in the Hermode Tuning algorithms.
W.. Mozart - Sonata KV 497 for 4 hands in just intonation
มุมมอง 7034 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with the sounds of an original Stein Piano from the year 1793. (Johann Andreas Stein in Augsburg was the favorite piano maker of Mozart). The Sonata is dynamically controlled to just intonation by Hermode Tuning.
L. van Beethoven, Sonata 26, " Les Adieux" in just intonation
มุมมอง 2544 ปีที่แล้ว
Edited with LOGIC and its Hermode Tuning function to thirds, fifths and sevenths in just intonation.
Frédéric Chopin: Grande Valse Brillante
มุมมอง 3484 ปีที่แล้ว
Frédéric Chopin: Grande Valse Brillante
Ludwig van Beethoven Diabelli Variations in just intonation
มุมมอง 3005 ปีที่แล้ว
Ludwig van Beethoven Diabelli Variations in just intonation
Franz Liszt/ Transcribtion of Schubert Staendchen in just intonation
มุมมอง 4055 ปีที่แล้ว
Franz Liszt/ Transcribtion of Schubert Staendchen in just intonation
W.A. Mozart - Sonata K 448 in D major for 2 Pianos - in just intonation
มุมมอง 5K5 ปีที่แล้ว
W.A. Mozart - Sonata K 448 in D major for 2 Pianos - in just intonation
Claude Debussy "clair de lune" in just intonation
มุมมอง 35K5 ปีที่แล้ว
Claude Debussy "clair de lune" in just intonation
J.S.Bach: Chorale BWV 270, just intonation contra equal temperamentt
มุมมอง 6715 ปีที่แล้ว
J.S.Bach: Chorale BWV 270, just intonation contra equal temperamentt
J.S. Bach: Air from the Suite No.3 in D in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 1.7K5 ปีที่แล้ว
J.S. Bach: Air from the Suite No.3 in D in Just Intonation
Franz Schubert: Impromptu Op.90 No.3 in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 3995 ปีที่แล้ว
Franz Schubert: Impromptu Op.90 No.3 in Just Intonation
L.van Beethoven: Sonata 8 (Pathétique) in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 8945 ปีที่แล้ว
L.van Beethoven: Sonata 8 (Pathétique) in Just Intonation
Johannes Brahms: Danse hongroise No.2 in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 3955 ปีที่แล้ว
Johannes Brahms: Danse hongroise No.2 in Just Intonation
Franz Schubert German Dance Op.33-10 in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 3685 ปีที่แล้ว
Franz Schubert German Dance Op.33-10 in Just Intonation
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 24 "für Therese" in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 5155 ปีที่แล้ว
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 24 "für Therese" in Just Intonation
G. Rossini: Ouverture "L' italiana in Algeri" in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 5145 ปีที่แล้ว
G. Rossini: Ouverture "L' italiana in Algeri" in Just Intonation
Beethoven Sonata 14 "Mondschein" in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 7K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Beethoven Sonata 14 "Mondschein" in Just Intonation
Mozart Fantasia KV397 in Just Intonation
มุมมอง 1.7K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Mozart Fantasia KV397 in Just Intonation

ความคิดเห็น

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The consonant harmony sounds better and the dissonant sounds slightly worse

  • @Balthazar2242
    @Balthazar2242 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can sense the difference in the underlying chords. Like, at first it sounds kind of wrong to me. It's "out of tune" but it isn't? Cool.

  • @konradswart4069
    @konradswart4069 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very beautiful! Cubase seems to have this Hermode Tuning too. Still, I can hear at some places the limitations of the Hermode system, based on a database as it is. Still, it is a huge improvement!

  • @konradswart4069
    @konradswart4069 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very beautiful! I have always been a favorite of classical music played in Just Intonation. However, the Hermode system is 'database based'. Which means, that there is no mathematical theory underneath it, except for the harmony theory, that says that a harmony of several notes must also be seen as one note with a very rich overtone spectrum, so that notes move 'into and out of' harmonies. An idea that is an extension of Pythagoras' idea that harmony is the result of whole-number frequency ratios of different pitches. The Hermodic system is basically a representation of this idea. But a full theory of harmony must also include Helmholtz' idea of dissonance, which the Hermonde system does not. To make music that complies fully to both Pythagoras and Helmhotz' definition of harmony, you could take 'a look at' some of my own compositions, which you can find on my TH-cam channel. I cannot post links here, because the TH-cam algorithm doesn't allow this. Still, listening to this Romance in Hermodic Just Intonation improves the piece a lot!

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is sort of(*) a preview of what it would be like if this was played on a fluid piano th-cam.com/video/t7Cq3pbcMkI/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygULZmx1aWQgcGlhbm8%3D but with foot pedals to change all the notes in one pitch class instead of having to reach over and move each slider by hand. (*)The fluid piano is a modern tangent piano with sliders, rather than a standard piano with sliders.

  • @stephenfiler7564
    @stephenfiler7564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I crazy or are there mistakes like at 0:32 and 2:28?

  • @Chorizo727
    @Chorizo727 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terrible, why listen to this when there are many recorded performances on YT?

  • @hugovongraffenberg8818
    @hugovongraffenberg8818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ca ƒerraille ((un tout petit peu)), qui est le ƒacteur de piano…… s'il y en a un ? Pas non plus de pianiste ? Juste un Tuning par "LOGIC" et Just Intonation, "possiblement" ? Peut-être R 2 D 2 a-t-il une réponse toute prête.

  • @jmooroof1769
    @jmooroof1769 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JI sounds so good and odd at the same time

  • @command49.1game6
    @command49.1game6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo, what if you tune the Db Fm Gbm with major chords for Db, minor chords for Fm, and subminor chords for Gbm (6:7:9)? It should have a more harmonic connection, right?

  • @Gman737e
    @Gman737e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really love "just intonation" ... ET is nice but we lost so much

  • @pounchoutz
    @pounchoutz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that song at the beginning scratched an itch in my mind I didn't know I had. Please please tell me where to find more!

  • @raffertybradford8286
    @raffertybradford8286 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can I put this? It sounds wrong (not to say that it sounds bad) because of the way I have heard things my entire life. BUT I think equal temperament would sound really wrong if we all only ever heard just intonation.

  • @lonniebaker5503
    @lonniebaker5503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's fun to do is listen to this, and then go listen to it in ET and realize just how dissonant ET is 😮

  • @nagoranerides3150
    @nagoranerides3150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My god that is so much better than normal! My whole life I've wondered why other people like CdL; it's always sounded out of tune to me.

  • @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626
    @hansroemerszoonvanderbrikk7626 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is something that could only be done with a VSTi

  • @jean-pierredevent970
    @jean-pierredevent970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible that the higher harmonics get lost because of that technique to convert to just intonation?? I sounds pure and smooth but so dark ??

  • @_loegan
    @_loegan ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouts to podcasterHH!!!1

  • @AEVMU
    @AEVMU ปีที่แล้ว

    Equal temperament really ruins so many songs.

  • @Trainwreck3000
    @Trainwreck3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    how can it be 357 limit, 357 is divisable by 3, 7, and 17

  • @EdgarRoock
    @EdgarRoock ปีที่แล้ว

    2:14 This part sounds off to my TET-adjusted ears.

  • @zamarioijean4736
    @zamarioijean4736 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderfull transcription indeed !

  • @pedrova8058
    @pedrova8058 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahhh, those 7th harmonics!

  • @michaelkiese7794
    @michaelkiese7794 ปีที่แล้ว

    As "perfect" as this sounds, I still heard a tiny bit of wavering. I guess it's only natural. Parts such as 1:37 sound so resolved and perfect, that it almost sounds sterile to me. Not that it's bad at all. Maybe it's because everything is in equal temperament for such a pragmatic reason, that I'm used to hearing imperfections, and I like it. Without the sour, the sweet is not as sweet.

  • @RichardHoogstad
    @RichardHoogstad ปีที่แล้ว

    Was the harpsichord in Just Intonation tuning as well? Meaning only in tune for the key of D.

  • @Hjarrand
    @Hjarrand ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the first to invent a useable system for just intonation in modern times, was the Norwegian composer Eivind Groven. I wonder if it's his system that's in use here. He invented a pure-tuned organ, and realized that the smallest possible way to make each modulation "just", was by having three possible semitones pr octave, thus making up three times as many possibilities than the usual 12-semitone scale. In later years, his system has been made accessible through modern computing, and through the internet. Having worked with his system for some time now, I can't help but wonder if this is the case here (and also having played the same sonata, tuned the same way).

  • @Jr-zg4wp
    @Jr-zg4wp ปีที่แล้ว

    Both beautiful to listen.

  • @codiserville593
    @codiserville593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful

  • @anonymousl5150
    @anonymousl5150 ปีที่แล้ว

    To my ears it sounds out of tune in a lot of places. And I play on string instruments and play in just intonation whenever possible

  • @burdy5640
    @burdy5640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just intonation is another name for pythagorean tuning right?

    • @elirosenkim3659
      @elirosenkim3659 ปีที่แล้ว

      no. just intonation is tuning with rational numbers as intervals, and there are many approaches. Pythagorean just intonation (not used here) tunes all notes using only stacked 2/1 and 3/2 intervals (which inevitably leads to "wolf intervals" which are much higher complexity than 3/2, as the circle of fifths does not close back exactly to the starting point when stacking pure 3/2)

    • @eboone
      @eboone ปีที่แล้ว

      Just intonation is the broad term for intervals that are found in the harmonic series. Pythagorean tuning only uses intervals whose largest prime factor is 3.

  • @popnocturne7909
    @popnocturne7909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your pedal-free interpretation of the middle arpeggio part is stunning.

    • @alexwansss
      @alexwansss ปีที่แล้ว

      I picture a time lapse of the lunar cycle in that part!

    • @popnocturne7909
      @popnocturne7909 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexwansss that's awesome. I like your visual experience of this.

    • @theoboueid6450
      @theoboueid6450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not an interpretation, it's literally a midi file playing on its own. Also that makes it sound too dry, too gallopy, too percussive and robotic. Not enough wavyness. Clearly not what Debussy had in mind. However I definitely like the just intonation part about the piece before someone attacks me for this.

    • @hellishlycute
      @hellishlycute 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoboueid6450 it's definitely not just a "midi file", it's been played by a human on a midi keyboard

    • @theoboueid6450
      @theoboueid6450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hellishlycute Nope, sorry to break it to you. Listen to the rhythm. Listen to how quantized the beats are. It very obviously sounds like a midi file. Even the ritardandos sound synthetic. The dynamics are akward and unnatural too. Also, because of the drifting pitches (which are part of the nature of playing in JI), it makes it even more unlikely that a human recorded it by playing it on a keyboard, with only 12 notes per octave. You'd need more, way more. And no, even on digital instruments, you can't just switch the tuning of each note at will to fit the JI tuning *during* a performance. Not as far as I'm concerned. If a human somehow played this thing, I'm just really sorry to admit that it sounds really robotic :( Edit : I'd still like to point out that I'm a HUGE just intonation enthusiast as a concept. I feel like it's a great musical ideal to pursue in so many regards. I just really hope someday us, musicians, composers, producers or WHOEVER, we find a way to play this type of music in actual live performances, on real acoustic instruments. But it seems like we're still far from reaching that point and it makes me frustrated.

  • @amminadabz
    @amminadabz ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this retuning done manually or is there a script to do it automatically? I'm doing research on algorithmic just intonation.

  • @joseilsonjunioroficial
    @joseilsonjunioroficial ปีที่แล้ว

  • @jon...5324
    @jon...5324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful! glad to see you make more of these

  • @chrism3790
    @chrism3790 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, that E major chord at 0:45 really sounds way off. 2:19 is just abysmal. Don't know how much of it is just weird stuff from the pitch correction (3:46-3:49 clearly is), but it really shows how pieces with a lot of modulation simply don't work in just intonation.

  • @andreisupervloguri8058
    @andreisupervloguri8058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great music!

  • @shuangchen7980
    @shuangchen7980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely beautiful and touching

  • @palumbotracks9925
    @palumbotracks9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    empalagoso

  • @davidgo8874
    @davidgo8874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this real piano or keyboard?

  • @davidgo8874
    @davidgo8874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I almost can't tell the difference. Not as unusual as I thought it would be. Very good to listen to. Thanks!

  • @freshpinkapples7618
    @freshpinkapples7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I oddly think this sounds prettier than in equal temperament. Not because I'm some just temperament elitist, I just think the slightly untuned-ness sometimes gives it so much more color. Yes, people describe it as perfect rainbows, but it literally is only that way half of the time. The other half it is very clearly not tuned like we know it in equal temperament, and I think that makes it quite beautiful. Edit: I meant just intonation, I meant it sounds prettier in just intonation. I'm so sorry, guys.

    • @gonzoengineering4894
      @gonzoengineering4894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah modern Debussy in particular was very conscious of the idiosyncrasies of equal temperament and leaned on them structurally. Some of the individual chords sound luscious, but the overall structure falls apart under the stress

    • @antoniomunoz1284
      @antoniomunoz1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree

    • @neilr5208
      @neilr5208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't the point of just intonation that it isn't "untuned"

    • @gonzoengineering4894
      @gonzoengineering4894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilr5208 ayes, according to the harmonic series. Trouble is entrainment has much more to do with our perception of tuning. We're steeped in 12 edo so we hear deviation as "untuned."

    • @freshpinkapples7618
      @freshpinkapples7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilr5208 I think, what counts as "untuned" depends. Because, on equal temperament, it isn't perfect either. Like, it isn't perfect fifths, thirds etc, it is slightly off. Just intonation is the technically correctly tuned way, if we go by frequencies. If we go by the most balanced sound, then equal temperament is technically less untuned. Edit: On another note, I edited my comment because I said the wrong thing.

  • @SuperSnooki14
    @SuperSnooki14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh tune your piano 😂

  • @finxy3500
    @finxy3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the sound of this, but I think there's too much pedal/reverb perhaps?

    • @rist98
      @rist98 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats probably down to the original performance this dude digitally edited.

    • @eboone
      @eboone ปีที่แล้ว

      Beethoven originally instructed the performer to play the entire 1st movement with the pedal depressed. This sounded incredibly mystical on a fortepiano, but on a modern piano it does sound a bit overdone.

  • @gormauslander
    @gormauslander 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 12 tet biased ears hate this immensely, which is sad, because I want to like it

  • @handlesucks509
    @handlesucks509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think this is a just intonation. It sounds like slightly oddly tuned piano.

    • @finxy3500
      @finxy3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      JI tends to sound like that I feel. Were not used to it according to the common explanation. Even so this sounds quite good to me.

    • @chrism3790
      @chrism3790 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because it is. Just intonation makes every chord except the root be out of tune.

  • @Tyrell_Corp2019
    @Tyrell_Corp2019 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delicious 🤤

  • @watermelonslushy1110
    @watermelonslushy1110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds strange to me for some reason. Even though it should sound better I feel like it doesn’t. Maybe it’s because it’s not played by a real person? Or Just intonation just sounds like perfect rainbows instead of “raw human”

  • @franzurjisorabliszt
    @franzurjisorabliszt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my, this is an unfound diamond

  • @hlkp333
    @hlkp333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice, thank you for this. I'd be curious to hear a similar version for: Piano Sonata No. 11 in A major, K. 331 - I. Andante grazioso

  • @animist_avery
    @animist_avery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you choose a note at the beginning of the piece, say "C", to be the fundamenta,l and then take every other note in the piece from the C harmonic series OR do you choose a new fundamental at each chord change, choosing the root note of that chord, and then take every other note played during that chord from the harmonic series of that chord root note?

    • @SteveRayDarrell
      @SteveRayDarrell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting question, I don't think you could do what you're describing, you have to choose a root note and tune everything accordingly, otherwise you would need to retune the piano for every time you change chord, maybe something like that is feasible with an digital keyboard

    • @bragtime1052
      @bragtime1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteveRayDarrell This wasn't played on an acoustic piano anyway. The best approach for consonance would be the latter option, which is possible digitally.

    • @leonmrrs
      @leonmrrs ปีที่แล้ว

      Jacob Collier does the second one with voices

    • @animist_avery
      @animist_avery ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leonmrrs Very satisfied with everyone's replies

    • @aman-mn5kc
      @aman-mn5kc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you need to retune every chord from from close to the center