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Jeep Wrangler JL Transmission (850RE) Fluid Change Service, ZF8
In this video I am changing the transmission fluid on a 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL. 8 speed 850re transmission.
Steps to check fluid level or refill:
Jeep needs to be on level ground.
Start Jeep - leave running throughout process
Transmission should be between 86* and 122* fahrenheit.
Shift to Reverse for 5 seconds
Shift to Drive for 5 seconds
Shift to Second Gear for 5 seconds
Place in Neutral
Raise RPM to 2,000 RPM"S for 5 seconds
Place in Park
Remove fill plug from passenger side of transmission
Fill until fluid is dripping out
Place fill plug back in and torque to 26 ft lbs.
Steps to check fluid level or refill:
Jeep needs to be on level ground.
Start Jeep - leave running throughout process
Transmission should be between 86* and 122* fahrenheit.
Shift to Reverse for 5 seconds
Shift to Drive for 5 seconds
Shift to Second Gear for 5 seconds
Place in Neutral
Raise RPM to 2,000 RPM"S for 5 seconds
Place in Park
Remove fill plug from passenger side of transmission
Fill until fluid is dripping out
Place fill plug back in and torque to 26 ft lbs.
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great video brotha, do you know by any chance how many quarts does I have to put?
Thank you going to change it . This was very helpful 👍🏼
What’s the transmission fluid capacity on the 2019 6 cylinder? Thanks for the video.
It's always hard to tell if it's got the engine destroying pentastar tick due to loose rockers, or just normal chatter from a DOHC cylinder head
Camshaft
100k on my 2020 never changed it. Lifetime warranty from jeep on power train and I asked 3 dealers, no need to change. Supposedly the trans fluid has been tested to 500k. No whine in my trans. No shift issues.
Those car manufacturers are idiots making transmissions unservicable
Thanks for posting. The only bad thing is that you are only able to change "some" of the fluid. Most of that remains in the TConverter and you cannot really get that out without removing it or a flush. To those doing this, I would advise never to reinstall those bolts using a driver. It's super easy to strip out aluminum threads.
Did mine today at 66,000 miles magnets were very clean. Replaced fluid, gasket and filter with Mopar parts. Took about 3 hours.
can you please describe the whine noise ,,, how is it sound like ? is it like a whistle noise ? and in what RPM you hear the noise ? thanks for the video
Thank you for the video. I used this process on my son’s 2019 JL w/ 850RE. I would think that the same procedure would work with the 8HP75 that is installed in the EcoDiesel and 392?? Fill plug is on opposite side but same filter number and fluid. Thanks again!
Do you do a top off after the 80’s temp while engine still running or do you turn it off and then top it off??
If you didn't see it else where in the comments, he replied "You will need to keep the Jeep running to have the correct level."
I'd have to take a listen, but my son's JLUR 8 speed definitely makes a funky whine sound in reverse.
I'm just curious, for example. The oil filter is like twenty pounds of torque ... Transmission bolts are 89 on the torque rench ?? I'm just not so familiar. It sounds like a lot of strength
Make sure you have an in lb torque wrench, not a ft lb. The conversion is 12 in lbs = to 1 ft lb.
I had my dealer change at 30k and I don't recall it being all that much. however I'm approaching 60k now and will do the change next myself. I did recently read in a forum that one reason these might be low from the factory is that the filters will need a short amount of time to absorb the fluid. Checking level again after 25-50 miles will probably require a bit more fluid.
60k on my 2019. I think I should do this. Nice to see that the transmission pan bolts are very accessible on the Wrangler.
Thank you! I’m pretty mechanically inclined as far as brakes, oil changes, plugs etc. once I heard the dealer by me wanted $1200 for this couldn’t believe it. Thanks to your video I’m gonna do it myself and it definitely doesn’t look too difficult.
When it comes to any fluids and filters, other than motor and air, I always go with OEM, ONLY Mopar ATF+4 for my JKs, only Mopar Trans filters, only Mopar 80W90 gear oil and Mopar LSD additive for my differentials. Zerex coolant though, it is the best.
I have the same tick on my GC17v6. I was suspecting about the rockarms but in the end I figured out: Purge Valve Solenoid. When you start the engine, cold start, that valve is off, only few seconds after it starts to work and make this tick noise.
Good vid. Thinking of buying a Wrangler. You’ve convinced me to go manual transmission.
My gladiator sounds the same. Any idea what it is? It drives me crazy.
I have spoken with several mechanics who have fixed the "tick" and all have stated this is not it. This is "normal".
@@outofoffice3443 thanks for the reply.
@@outofoffice3443 Are you for real? My 2023 is making this noise with like 300km on the dash. Sounds horrible with the hood up
@@jordangallant988Yes. It is the purge solenoid valve. All new Pentastar 3.6 has that tick including Gladiator and Grand Cherokee.
Excellent tutorial
26,000 is a great interval. If you wait to 60,000 plus, you run the risk of of slippage with a fluid change as the fluid accumulates particulates with time, which increase friction. Take that fluid out and replace with new, slippage can occur.
I agree with 30kish give or take is a good interval. Although waiting until 60k won't harm anything on these newer transmissions and fluid. This isn't 1995 anymore, things are much more refined these days and last longer.
If you want to do a better oil change , pull off inspection cover on torque converter rotate down where drain plug is at bottom , you should get around 5 qts more out .
I ended up selling this Jeep and buying a JT. When I hit the 25k mark and change the fluid I will give this a try. When draining the torque converter, is anything special needed to re-fill it?
Thank you for this, I have a 2020 JT with 50,345 miles zero wining. Time to change fluid. Dealer said drop it off at 2 pm would be done by 5 pm. I don’t trust them !
I work very closely with dealers as part of my daily job and I don't trust any of them. Everything you have ever heard about dealers are well......true.
This is just as an FYI, figure I’d share: I owned a 2021 gladiator rubicon that had developed a whining sound in the transmission at around 4000 miles. Kept the truck up until 19k, then started having more problems with other stuff. So, I traded it in and bought yet another brand new Gladiator Rubicon. This time around, I paid close attention to the transmission whine. Up until 1000 miles, nothing. Then slowly but surely the sound developed just like my other one, the same exact way. So far, this is the repro process: transmission will not whine unless it reaches 165 degree. Once this happens, it will whine from standing, rolling and shifting into 2nd gear when in auto mode. Shifting manually will not cause this sound. Once up to temp and starting up hill, or when cornering fast and in 2nd gear, the tranny makes this noise, appearing to run out of fluid ? Another way to repro is: driving 50-55 in 7th or 8th (cruising) and braking hard, down to about 35 then hard acceleration: you will hear the same sound. I am thinking my truck is low on fluid. Will replicate your method of testing and see what I find out. Thanks for the upload!!!
Personally I believe the whine is “normal” ish. I put another 25k on wheeling and it hasn’t changed. I ended up trading for a brand new Gladiatior and noticed a small whine on it with 12 miles on the clock. I also have rented a JL and JT while on work and noticed whines as well.
Thanks! Just hit 40k miles, might be time soon
Might it have better to bring it up to full 190 degrees before the service?
Per the service manual, you don't want the transmission at the full operating temperature when checking and filling.
@@outofoffice3443 Thanks, does it state an optimum temperature or is it a safety issue?
brooo thanks for the video very informative!🙏🏽 just wondering would you have to torque the bolts on the front skid bar and if so at how many ft-lbs?
I torqued the skid plate to good and tight.
I thought I was crazy with my 2023 keep wrangler and going in reverse and I hear the tranny chattering. I’m for sure going to be putting some fluid in now to make sure.
Mine sounds like a diesel in reverse and it’s a gasser. Any luck on this? Mines a 2023 also
Thanks for the video. Just about to go do mine now. I haven’t read through all the comments but I also had a whine with my JL from day 1 (bought it new) at the time I figured it woudl go away once the jeep got broken in and then eventually just got used to it and forgot. My Dad brought it back to my attention and when mentioned to the Dealer they looked into it and found the Idler Pulley was worn, (faulty from the factory). They replaced it and the whine is gone. Might be worth looking into.
So you’re filling with the car running?
Yes the proper way to check and fill is with the correct transmission temperature and it running.
nice attention to detail. Appreciate that Wrangler JL has a trans temp gauge built-in, because on other vehicles a scan tool is necessary to track trans temps during the change service.
Great Video, we appreciate your efforts.
Renogy also sell a 100watt folding panel called the eclipse..costs a a bit more..ot would be good to see a comparison to see if it's worth the extra
My mechanic always tells me, never replace the fluid. Only add whats missing
Hes a complete idiot
Just received the 200 watt package however sending it back as it’s just too heavy for me to pack in/out. Good review thanks I think I will be happier with the 100 watt package
i have been looking for the Hagon shocks and don't know how to get them
I have a 2020 JT Gladiator. I was going to change this out as well. QUESTION: Is 6 QTs going to be enough for change out? I have 6 QTs but wonder if should grab 1 QT more.
For a car with a transmission fluid dipstick, I can always check the fluid level and ensure it is at max level when the transmission is at working temperature. And then, drain the old fluid, and add new fluid back at the same amount that I have drained without worrying about putting in too much or too less. And this process does not require the car to be flat during a fluid change. But now, the manufacturers make transmissions without fluid dipsticks or drain plugs.
Yep, they call it a "lifetime" transmission fill, which we all know there is no such thing. It's really not that bad once you do it a couple times.
What symptoms might I notice if mine had been low from the factory? I just got a '21 with 15k miles on it, and so far it's been buttery smooth.
No symptoms most likely, maybe some whine.
@@outofoffice3443 Ok. I think I'll change it around 40k, I don't plan on doing a lot of towing or other high load applications.
so is the sound normal?
Who knows. Been told yes, been told no. I have heard it on several other 8 speeds. I drive the hell out of it though. If the time comes I’ll just put a transmission in.
Did you fill with the engine running or shut off? My recently acquired 2018 JL is leaking fluid through one of the pan bolt holes and I have no idea how much is left in it.
You will need to make sure the transmission is at correct temperature, then on level ground leave the engine running while checking/filling the fluid.
Thanks for your video! It looks like this is by far the only one which is out there at the moment I feel like. Do you know how many quarts of the transmission fluid is needed? I only saw two quarts in your video and I haven't heard you mentioning the amount which was needed for your 3.6l engine... Thanks!
5 but it’s always better to have more
Does the temp have to be to 86 degrees and then shift to R then D then M2 etc.. first before placing in fluid or after adding new fluid and then go through the temp and shift pattern then check for any fluid that needs to be added
Is the pan gasket reusable?
Yes it can be reused. I ultimately put a new one on but it didn’t need it.
Same setup as the Challenger. Super easy replacement!
I love my 250!
Aren’t you supposed to cycle through all 8 speeds, and at 10 second intervals? Maybe that’s just so it would be a sufficient amount of time to where it reaches that 85 degrees, without having to repeat the process like you had to do. Also, isn’t there a better oil that ZF recommends versus the Mopar oil? I swear, half of these guys say to never change the fluid in an auto. That’s just crazy to me. I just bought a 2022 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon, and I want to take care of this. My first 4x4. Had an old short wide pickup once, but it was only rear wheel. I only have 2k miles on it, so I have a ways to go. I haven’t decided when I’m going to do my first oil or transmission oil change. Many say that your first is the most important. Because today they only break in engines for an hour, and that there will be metal flakes and shavings. But then Jeep tells me they add additives from the factory, and that I want to go the full recommended distance before changing. Only thing I know for certain, is I’m changing that oil every 5k miles with full synthetic.
Hi I spoke with a transmission shop, 21 Gladiator. They recommend at 100k transmission fluid change.
@@peterc8979 Hey man! Thanks for the reply. Haven’t got a definitive answer from anyone. 100k seems like an awfully long time though. Maybe I’ll do mine at 50k then. I always do shorter intervals than the recommended, and always do my very first oil changes in half the time/miles
Hey just changed my trans oil, used Valvoline Maxlife (zf lifeguard 8) equivalent. Put in exactly what I got out of the pan about 6 quarts just drove around and I’m whining when I accelerate. Anyone might know why it’s whining ?
Changed filter and gasket as well, ran through fluid level check as well. I have no idea why it’s doing this
Was it whining before? Did you run through the proper steps and temperature for checking the level? Are you sure it’s the transmission making the noise? The only things I can think of unless it’s the maxlife which others have used without issue.