Certified elevated rescuer here... Too complicated... Too many moving parts... And as an EMS provider , no med kit and took too long.. he could have bled out by now. More body retrieval then actual rescue.😢
You made me me climb up here to help you get unstuck well here ur gonna swing right next to my junk and I'm gonna mess around with ropes for a min 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been there underground on long rope. 1974, taking a man off his rope using my harness fitted rope-walker SRT up, transfer the disabled explorer, and use my rappel hardware downward. A stokes litter was required due to a head injury (rock fall). Summoned same from a FD, made victim comfortable, and waited 4 hours. Being in a roadless canyon off Sheep Ranch Road in Central California. Moral: If on-rope and you hear a yell of "ROCK" do not look up to see the falling rock. Let the climbing helmet get hit and protect your head.
Wtf was all that. Why couldnt he just remove the guys ascender, remove his fall arrest then push the lever on his belay device while he pushes his own and lower them both at the same time... it sure wouldnt take him 7 minutes
You are forgetting about the rope stretch. With basic gear you can not lower a casualty onto yourself from a croll rescue. There is just to much stretch on these long drops.
I’m 77kg and have performed a croll rescue with the same basic counterbalance technique on a 105kg dummy. no extra gear required. It is all technique and body position.
@@TheRopeAccessChannel another question. is it really legal to rescue someone with two descenders like that at the end? I’ve never heard of or seen that. I was always taught to operate my working and backup line separately when in rescue. Just would like your opinion, I always like to learn different mechanics.
@@Sh4tterdL0g1c legality is up to the local rules and regulations and which rope access system you use (irata/sprat/fisat). However you need 2 separate points of attachment when suspended. That seems to be a global rule when suspended on ropes. When doing a small rope to rope transfer your also suspended on two loaded ropes when transferring the backup. Especially on long drops two descenders is much safer because you limit you fall distance. Imagine the stretch in you backup rope when loaded in a fall on an asap(or any backup device) when you have 100 meter rope above you. So perfectly fine in my opinion 👍🏼👍🏼
@@TheRopeAccessChannel yea fair enough I see your point. I just wanted to hear your point of view because like I said, I’ve never seen that done before. I work sprat in the states so we don’t use asaps we use ducks. And I’ve always been taught to not tow your duck when descending with a rescue so when I saw this I thought it was interesting. Thanks for your input 👍
@@TheRopeAccessChannel also, I posted that original comment 2 years ago and I probably had my level one for like a month I knew nothing back then lol. Sorry if you thought I was being negative when you read the OP
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@@cshuchlo2 Поднимаешься или спускаешься к потерпевшему, связываешь его систему со своей и обрезаешь его спусковую (рабочую верёвку) выше его спускового устройства.
Basically he just ensured that even if he slipped up with the pick off he'd still have the ID and his two points of contact to the guy vs just lowering him onto the 2 points of contact
I disagree that this was an overly long rescue. Having trained over 700 guys to IRATA certification and assessed about the same, I feel it was a good enough time frame.Descending on 2 IDs is a good method. In response to the guy who asked if it was legal, it is expected from the IRATA TACS that experienced techs have an awareness of this method.I saw a Training Centre in Eastern Europe train this way and they did not use a friction krab - half the weight of 2 people is one, hence no extra load... I reckon the user can make this call.Not a bad rescue.
tienes una discrepancia por ese mosqueton que se te callo
2:18 😂
Certified elevated rescuer here... Too complicated... Too many moving parts... And as an EMS provider , no med kit and took too long.. he could have bled out by now. More body retrieval then actual rescue.😢
How would you do it better ?
@@rolandawells I have videos of me actually rescuing people...
Awful tethering
Don’t think much of your ground guy. More interested in his ‘phone rather than keeping an eye on things above.
Brrr that edge looks sharp why not protector
Well done.
Omg you had to climb 10’ for a rescue,, what a tragedy
Muy buena transferencia
Nice rescue, clean calm and well within acceptable time frames. Good job training on long ropes👍🏼👍🏼. I’ve seen experienced L3 get taken by surprise!
Good job sir 🙏🏻
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You made me me climb up here to help you get unstuck well here ur gonna swing right next to my junk and I'm gonna mess around with ropes for a min 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Been there underground on long rope. 1974, taking a man off his rope using my harness fitted rope-walker SRT up, transfer the disabled explorer, and use my rappel hardware downward. A stokes litter was required due to a head injury (rock fall). Summoned same from a FD, made victim comfortable, and waited 4 hours. Being in a roadless canyon off Sheep Ranch Road in Central California. Moral: If on-rope and you hear a yell of "ROCK" do not look up to see the falling rock. Let the climbing helmet get hit and protect your head.
You have only 6 minutes to rescue a person in a rope, you have killed your friend, lol
Что за часы ?
Quick snatch see ya later
Wtf was all that. Why couldnt he just remove the guys ascender, remove his fall arrest then push the lever on his belay device while he pushes his own and lower them both at the same time... it sure wouldnt take him 7 minutes
You are forgetting about the rope stretch. With basic gear you can not lower a casualty onto yourself from a croll rescue. There is just to much stretch on these long drops.
Watchin this video and seeing how many ropes and clicking there is made me grow grey hairs
What if you are 75 kg and the man you rescue is 110? How do you lift a man to release a croll? Thanks.
build 2:1 or 3:1 from your footloop
I’m 77kg and have performed a croll rescue with the same basic counterbalance technique on a 105kg dummy. no extra gear required. It is all technique and body position.
Which camera are you using? Please reply.
Кучу не нужных действий сделано. Можно было бы проще все сделать и быстрее в 2 раза.
You do to much it can go easyer and a lil faster just look up howe we do it within Fisat trainning
The crazy thing is this is considered a level 1 rescue now 😐
Not according to irata TACS.
@@TheRopeAccessChannel another question. is it really legal to rescue someone with two descenders like that at the end? I’ve never heard of or seen that. I was always taught to operate my working and backup line separately when in rescue. Just would like your opinion, I always like to learn different mechanics.
@@Sh4tterdL0g1c legality is up to the local rules and regulations and which rope access system you use (irata/sprat/fisat). However you need 2 separate points of attachment when suspended. That seems to be a global rule when suspended on ropes. When doing a small rope to rope transfer your also suspended on two loaded ropes when transferring the backup. Especially on long drops two descenders is much safer because you limit you fall distance. Imagine the stretch in you backup rope when loaded in a fall on an asap(or any backup device) when you have 100 meter rope above you. So perfectly fine in my opinion 👍🏼👍🏼
@@TheRopeAccessChannel yea fair enough I see your point. I just wanted to hear your point of view because like I said, I’ve never seen that done before. I work sprat in the states so we don’t use asaps we use ducks. And I’ve always been taught to not tow your duck when descending with a rescue so when I saw this I thought it was interesting. Thanks for your input 👍
@@TheRopeAccessChannel also, I posted that original comment 2 years ago and I probably had my level one for like a month I knew nothing back then lol. Sorry if you thought I was being negative when you read the OP
And I forget which key is the one to open the door at my house
. 😂😂
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человек уже умер,пока этот товарищ железками звенит...все можно сделать гораздо проще.
О, русский... Как можно сделать проще? Есть ссылка на методику?
@@cshuchlo2 Поднимаешься или спускаешься к потерпевшему, связываешь его систему со своей и обрезаешь его спусковую (рабочую верёвку) выше его спускового устройства.
@@Танкист-ж7р ну молодец какой! И остаёшься без одной веревки. Или у тебя будет время навешивать ещё пару? или ты на одной вдвоём спускаться будешь?
@@cshuchlo2 level 2 rescue th-cam.com/video/xUDob3m6rds/w-d-xo.html
If there is any vacancies for level 1 please inform me
Is there any vacancies for rope axis technician Level 1
Wow gud job I'm also a rope axis technician Level 1. if there is any vacancies for this job can you please give you mail ID
Mucho tiempo para un rescate.independiente de la seguridad que se pueda tener.
7 minutes it's too long.
no contanta chinbada se le muere el compañero y no ase nada
He is boss level 35 probably
Demasiadas maniobras,se puede simplificar
Biodobleg dobleG con todas esas maniobras ya se le murió el rescatado 🤣
Easy! 😁👍🏼⛑
Is this a level 3 technique? I learned how to do a rescue during my IRATA level 1 course, it seemed much simpler.
Alex Depauw this is a variation of a level 2 rescue. Long way to do a pluck from a croll. Still completely correct and safe though
Basically he just ensured that even if he slipped up with the pick off he'd still have the ID and his two points of contact to the guy vs just lowering him onto the 2 points of contact
wow excellent
Coke and a maribu ;)
What was the brand of decenders you used?? Asking for a freind
petzl id's
Ropes, I recognized ropes, other than that this is all foreign to me.
That was sick dope phat word yo
Nice work and like it
power full
looks good the hard est part was to lift the Guy A revolver carabiner woudda been handy🙋
I disagree that this was an overly long rescue. Having trained over 700 guys to IRATA certification and assessed about the same, I feel it was a good enough time frame.Descending on 2 IDs is a good method. In response to the guy who asked if it was legal, it is expected from the IRATA TACS that experienced techs have an awareness of this method.I saw a Training Centre in Eastern Europe train this way and they did not use a friction krab - half the weight of 2 people is one, hence no extra load... I reckon the user can make this call.Not a bad rescue.
nice and safe. You only get one life.
Hi! Seen this technique while I was training for lvl 1. It will be really helpful to apply it by miself when I go for further levels.
must be a level 3, wearing the IRATA issued Sunto watch :)