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Of course higher quality equipment would be great. Two things need to be kept in mind: 1. Defense needs to be the primary way to win over serving long term. 2. The sport needs to be grown so that the community can afford high quality things and sustain a business for producing them.

mike was outside 7 feet so it’s clean no?

@@peytonstack24oh is that a stipulation as part of this ruleset?

@@Conn205 yessir! ERS rule said “if the player striking the ball has at least one point of contact outside the serving circle, the ball may land inside the circle”

I'm curious: what does a rally/hold ratio tell you? I see more value in reviewing the rally/ace ratio; that should tell us if teams can win by playing defense more, less, or the same amount as serving (we of course want teams to win more through defense). For this dataset, we could get a rally to ace (or no return) ratio of: Baseline: 54.5% Experiment: 122.5% And I agree, a lot of people had to adjust to the bigger ball - what I would like to do is continue analyzing games from earlier in the day to see how players adjust over time and how much these distributions changed during the day.

In my opinion, if rally/hold ratio doesn't increase. People eventually will go for higher risk service to at least create bad touches. Then rally to ace ratio will increase again. What I expect from an ideal dataset would be a higher rally/hold ratio which people adjust their strategy to rely more on defence. And it should be rather high in the beginning because I think offense will improve faster than defence. That's why I think we could maybe try a more aggressive ruleset for this. (Just like NHZ first introduced. I don;t have the data, but defence should increase from nearly impossible to possible before it become what we have rught now) rally/hold to me is what actually change the structure of the game toward more defence. I think 2 reasons create high rally/ace ratio from CC are: (1) Not familiar with the ball, so people rather put it on than go for strong serve. (2) People come in the tournament with mindset of this rule will help defence and decide to rely on more on defence. However, if people findout this rule isn't actually easier for defence. Next time the rally/ace ratio may decrease a lot, imo.

We'll have to keep experimenting ideas so the pros get to have as much fun as you and your friends do at the park.

If you'd have seen how many legal drops people watched fall in front of them, this choice makes a lot more sense - it's similar to how folks play through any other close call. For this type of footwork call, the defender just watching the ball makes sense.

We want the og spikeball back

Would love to hear more elaboration about what OG gameplay you want back - any specific player or play style?

@@bdantowitz this bigger ball and these new rules isn’t going to make this sport evolve in anyway shape or form. There’s a reason someone like myself and many others love this sport we love seeing the intricate hits, serves, let alone the insane reverses on the og ball. This ball is going to ruin everything for this sport I genuinely believe that. The only good thing coming out of this is new players will now be able to compete and get into this sport a lot easier but other than that at the highest level for people that have been playing for years this will just be a downfall for us. Even the whole part of us practicing hours on hours silently trying to learn how to cut and reverse the ball, that’s not exiting because serving really isn’t a big aspect of this game anymore

🥺 This is a really kind sentiment. I want to do my part and hope that talking more about my effort can inspire others to take action too.

These matches were filmed by players phones. For the most part it is on an iPhone camera. Roundnetwork will sometimes use a combination of iPhones and professional cameras to cover a match.

Kind of, but this was more experimental in nature. 1. 2025 US baseline rules voted on by USAR members. 2. Experimental Spikeball rally ball 3. Additional experimental rules specific to this tournament detailed here th-cam.com/video/NFb2W2QXE80/w-d-xo.html

@bdantowitz thanks

I just try to improve from the ones we had discussed weren't as good as usual ;)

That’s the neat part: you don’t! In past streams, best case scenario for me would be to charge one phone and use it as a scoreboard remote while the phone that was streaming could connect to the microphones. I also had to make sure I focused on charging to time my battery to make it through the last match of the day

@ so you disconnect the mic between games to recharge the phone as much as possible?

Yes, and I also turn off the stream and go live with a different phone if I’m able to borrow a second one.

Now you have more time to work on growing Roundnet 😅

Thanks man!

What company / Who do you use to print the jerseys?

@@eoinogara1193 I work with a dedicated company from Asia for the jerseys.

"People who care about the growth of the sport" and take action on that passion... Germany is already dominating roundnet in my view. The rest of the world needs to start caring and taking action.

I hope it was worth the wait 😅

Awesome, good luck!