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can i use raging spell on maven !?

Check this out! The quest to go with Serena to visit her mother in the Soul Cairn. Serena asked about The DragonBorn parents. One of the options where the DragonBorn said to Serena that “we were very close and that he or she can’t wait to visit them again! ( Majority of the options were The DragonBorn miss them or visiting them again ) The Ambush probably happened when the DragonBorn was leaving around the boarder from Skyrim to go to Cyrodiil.

Or you can do nothing cause the Black-Briar brand is gonna die with Maven. Every last one of her kids is incompetent

I did this and she was jarl. I wanted to kill her. When jarl Layla was given the throne again maven just continued as if nothing happened. Idk how to exile her.

I used cheat room mod. Changed her status to follower and stashed her on Castle Volkihar balcony. She spawns off of there occasionally and I take her back. It’s so cold and I put that racist boob from Windhelm with her for company.

Players easily forget to upgrade the followers armor, and weapons! I gave both Eola and Serana potions to heal with etc works beyond great! Eola is now one of house carls killing everything onsite! Not modded!

I agree with your view on Lydia, Eola had it out in cave with Serana (both my followers) it was long and brutal, Serana had enough of Eola and simply sat down in a chair by a table in the cave and loudly sighed! Not modded! Eola's famous last words of victory came out! "Not pretty enough?" etc. Khajaro keeps dying by Dragon attack , dont forget the old witch hag (you free from a cage) as follower if your quick enough to kill the hag who caged her and not mix them up !

Unkillable npc not only break immersion but are also a big middle finger in the face of the player.

The thieves guild is inherently the funniest questline of all time because you can botch nearly every single job in it

Fuck that. Use the bend will shout on her, lead her to rannvige's fast and push her into slid's pit.

Hey BreachGaming, I have built my whole current game around finding ways to screw Maven, based on your brilliant idea. I refuse to set up my friend Brand Shei, who killed Maul for attacking me, after finding proof of Brand Shei's true family lineage. So, instead of sending him to jail, I just go punch a Riften guard, and when I get out of jail, Brynjolf is still eager to work with me. I have made an extremely powerful (thousands of seconds) paralysis potion, poisoned a weak arrow, and used a simple long bow to shoot her with it. It is exquisite to see her just lay there unable to speak or move. Unfortunately, she resets and walks again. Because I have abandoned to rest of the thieves guild quest line after the burning of Goldenglow, she is now always in the Bee and Barb. She waits, and waits, and waits, for me to meet her for the "Dampened Spirits" quest. But I will never show up. I have stolen all the Black-Briar mead around Riften, and now also sell cheap mead with my brother, Romlyn. Honningbrew Meadery continues to spank her tired Black Briar meadery. I tried to steal her clothes, but her clothing is not to be stolen. Her horse is gone and her lodge sits emptied. My next project is to see if she can actually be exiled, or not. Whether or not she will be exiled, at least I can screw up the Imperials having control over the Rift. I'm pretty sure that while the Rift is being handed over to the Stormcloak's, she will still be waiting for me in the Bee and Barb, to talk to me about Honningbrew Meadery. It has been so much fun to find ways to screw her over, and keep her out of the way, so I don't have to listen to her condescending voice. Thank you for your inspiration!

I found Illiya by accident and her quest is to kill her mom…why is nobody talking about that? Yes her mom was evil and hagraven obsessed, but come on…not a great backstory imo so I left her to rot in her tower. For any mage follower, the best I’ve found is the Khajiit from the college who’s name I can’t spell. J-something. J-kitteh. He summons Seekers and it’s intense in battle. That cat scared the hell out of me because I’d never seen a Seeker before and I had no idea it was my follower’s monster 😂😂😂 After that, he became one of my OP faves but I still “main” Jenassa from Whiterun’s The Drunken Huntsman pub. It’s all about the duplication glitch (and I married Lydia, then she died in battle because she got in front of me while mid swing, serves her right): Jenassa has no problem picking up anything I say, and apart from Housecarls it’s hard to find a follower willing to be a ride or die like Janessa. For practical reasons my top 3 are Jenassa, Lydia and J-Kitteh

I haven't watched the video yet, but im saying it right now how you take down the black briar family is by assassinating maven, its that simple. She has no competent successor who could keep her empire going, the black briar family dies with maven.

I thought the Goldenglow job was to take out one of Maven's rivals so not sure if that adds up. I just used the high king of skyrim mod to put her in jail

If you side with the empire or give the empire Riften, Maven is made Jarl.

This is a genius idea for a mod. Please tell me someone's working on this. Would be so good to hear her new dialogues bitching how her empire is crumbling down, and visiting her in jail and her whole family.

Ok I've played Skyrim many times unlike you it seems she actually had no ties to the dark brotherhood there's a letter next to her effigy which complains about the fact the Dark Brotherhood never contacted her so all her boasting knowing them is just an empty threat

Love Ilia. She's the first follower I ever had that killed a dragon by herself for me. I find her prettier than Serana. Much less annoying than Serana too. The most underrated, in my opinion, is also the earliest follower you can get. Faendal. Give him good armor and weapons and he does a fine job tanking for you. He's a scrawny elf so he gets overlooked.

I do the thieves guild honey quest successfully, collect the reward - then AFTERWARDS go back and burn all the hives! I also have a habit of using the Ice Form shout on Maven if I meet her.

Funny being a god dealing with these things but doing so I chose not even being the dragonbore yet

I'm so split on the Soul Carin. As a piece of gameplay its terrible, boring, very little to do, tedious, and its super easy to get disoriented. But its meaningless, depressing, and disorienting nature is perfect from a lore standpoint. You really get the feeling of how horrible it would be to be stuck there forever and I think thats exactly what they were going for. They could have added a bunch of dungeons, cool side quests, and things to do, but that would defeat its purpose. This isn't some fun place you wanna hang out in. It's emptiness is in itself the classic environmental story telling BGS games are known for. It's a soulless empty hell, and for that I can appreciate it!

I found a mod that let me put a new face on Riften's throne. It's called "A Better Tomorrow" it lets you oust maven for her crimes and put a new modded character on the throne. This means you can take console commands remove maven's essential status and take her and her fam down. But this is a great vanilla way to do this.

What most new players tend to overlook in Ilia (aside from her quest's difficulty) is her preference in Ice Destruction Magic. In vanilla Skyrim, Ice magic is considered one of - if not THE - most overpowered magic element because of its dual damage type, which are HP & Stamina. Most enemies in vanilla Skyrim rely mainly on HP & Stamina for almost every action, especially attacking and moving. Ice magic strips thay way by making enemies have a much slower movement. This becomes even more evident when you start installing perk and magic overhaul mods. Sure, you can just go to Riften proper and spend 500 gold to recruit Marcurio (who is also an equally powerful mage Follower). However, due to his preference for Lightning/Electro magic element, Marcurio is more suited for players/characters who spec into the Ranged Anti-Magic archetype, since Lightning/Electro magic drains both HP & Mana, which are mostly mages, who are also few in numbers compared to the majority of Skyrim's enemies. Ilia offers more versatility with her Ice Magic because she can support both a Ranged and Melee character playstyles.

Which mode do you use to make Illia look like that ?

Illia and frea are goated

Just a little bit more I like to only invest in businesses I know aren’t attached to maven

Maven tries to have you killed if you don’t say the right things to Maul. That’s plenty reason enough to hurt her and destroy the Brotherhood

Illia is my homegirl once i tried her out

Or just use the Wabbajack & turn her into a sweetroll

I like that Crag-jumper lady. She's an archer and she acts like one. Always staying far behind, shoot arrows, no charging the enemies and she doesn't stand in my way.

There are several ways to do the Letrush horse theft. I usually go to Maven and tell her because it undermine her relationship with her son (in my mind). I kill the Black Briar mercenaries and still take the horse. I always felt that Layla Lawgiver was also supposed to be Jarl with either side of the civil war because she has some unique dialogue that only unlocks after you become thane and she says Ulfric is using the Talos worship excuse for his own ambition. There is also a book sitting beside her throne that says Riften used to be much bigger but, the citizens burned it down because the city had become so corrupt. I think you were supposed to be able to rat out Maven.

You know, I was hoping for mod recommendations. Alas, to the Nexus for the search.

Unfortunately, it seems that Maven can't be exiled.

Are you a voice actor? Your narration is god tier

I appreciate this level of pettyness to jab at Maven

My biggest complaint with skyrim is the lack of content for someone who wants to be the genuine good guy. Destroying the dark brotherhood is good, but only becomes an option by murder, whether direct or not. Maven never gets thrown in jail. Thieves guild never apprehended.

I take over the thieves guild and destroy the brotherhood

It always pissed me off knowing when I joined the imperial Legion that maven would become jarl

We do know one thing for certain: from some reason she put a hit out on us, pre-game. That's how we get captured trying to flee to Hammerfell.

Lol i support Maven, at least she can bring in money and wealth into Riften

This is only for coping purposes and nothing more. the best way would have been to end the Thieves' guild like you can the Dark Brotherhood, oh wait, you can't do that. Though your methods does make a very fun early game role play.

If an orphan can hire assassins to take down a mean old babysitter, then whats stopping anyone else from commissioning those same asses to go after maven?

Can you kill any of her children? I believe her daughter works in the alchemy store but she’s actually the only decent one in the family. You could also take EVERY item from her estate/homes.

Sadly I murdered Erandur because I never had the staff of vermena, it’s not worth it at all

I’m confused, you can make a peace treaty for the war but still capture riften and exile Maven? How?

You kinda sound like the Dunmer voice.

It's shame. Only Silver-Blood Family can be wiped out

I always wanted to get rid of Maven

in my opinion, dragonborn is better in terms of content. and dawnguard is better for story but ONLY because of serana. she just made the story so much more interesting and unique even if you want to talk about outside of the elder scrolls games... there is no story like serana's story and your friendship with her. (as far as im aware - and a HUGE bonus points if you have serana add-on mod which makes her story so much better)

I would just install the high king mod and send her for execution