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it's just a small noticeable notch faster than the green but not as maneuverable so with the green you might find a slightly faster line and difference negated. in some situations where there are the right hydraulics and waves the speed difference might be greater.. frankenstein is the most comfy boat i have paddles so for longer races where my legs get stiff i can stretch them out easily so it letsme focus more on other things.

get high in the eddy means go to the most upstream part before peeling out to ferry, attain to next rock, etc most of the time. at higher levels like above 4 feet the moves are wider open andd still doable but you need a faster boat like a salom that is tuned to your style, weight, and size. there are only a few I''ve seen. maybe i sshould try and get video of them to show how the moves are different and such.

​@@FrankensteinDIYkayak Thank you, that is very helpful, making a video that illustrates getting high in the eddy with the narrative of what you explained would make for a great training tool. Would a Prijon T-Slalom fit the style you mentioned, giving you an advantage over the typical modern long boats, or do you mean the fiberglass slalom kayaks? Could make a video comparing moves in the Green Boat against T-Slalom or a true slalom. 4ft. seems to be the level where it starts to become a challenge at Knoxville Falls, with specific moves over muscle being a must, like what we saw at 7ft.

Maybe you could spearhead that; unlike with "The Ruins" at the Lower Staircase on Virginius Island, these Ruins - Weverton Gates Ruins & Old Marble Cutting Mill - may likely be unknown by the mainstream, and are slightly isolated with rocky terrain from the C&O Canal Towpath, which presumably is what preserves it from being polluted with garbage, unlike just a little ways upstream.

same here. you can really wear paddles out on the needles at these levels

Greetings, I'm local too, feel free to come out and join us! The low water has made for some fun attaining, a playground of features that I haven't experienced before like on The Needles and Knoxville Falls, but once it got too low it cut the attaining line at the bottom part of 100 Yard Dash. Prayers are powerful!

I think I just recommended those general type creekers but it's a good start

Nice, awesome to hear and a pleasure to pass along all that I can! My friend Lisa, also kayaks a Diesel, and really enjoys it. The Diesel is similar to my Wave Sport Recon too. Feel free to join up anytime, happy to have you! We have long boats you can try out too to transition too when the bigger flow and wave trains return. You're be featured again in an upcoming 100 Yard Dash video too!

I don't SUP and don't know any guides but do know one SUPer who is good but switched to kayaking. I'll text him about it. check out Baltimore Canoe and Kayak Club on facebook. I remember at least one real good person but they seemed to have backed off. I'll post again soon on it.

thanks. I hope to make that rapid even easier in the future and hope to be doing so for years. If you ever come local give a yell and I can show how to go up it and down the most effective way.

I have mentioned the need for groups to space out often and it's good practice. everyone is a good swimmer and comes through in the end though. groups bunching up and creating issues have been an issue long before this crew 10 - 15 years ago with other crews so I'm an advocate of people being pot and alcohol free on the river.

Oh yes, our funnest Tohickon trip yet! Right on, Frankenstein DIY Kayak sure called the warning multiple times..as well as those beep beeps, haha, but that's what happened at Chute, got too jammed up even though I turned around to get behind The Purple Haze before hand and then ended up upside down with the inflatable green kayak above me. Frankenstein DIY Kayak sure knows how to call it...there's a scene of him precisely giving us that advice before running Blue Hole at the "Bloomington" section of the North Branch of the Potomac River - at 5:57: "Kayaking the North Branch of the Potomac River: The 2023 September Whitewater Release (963cfs)" - th-cam.com/video/9JeTIG7ad4g/w-d-xo.html. Would be cool to link up some time. Feel free to reach out if you would like to join up with our crew! We run all of the regional releases and compete in most of the races. Our home rivers are the Potomac and Shendandoah Rivers, in Harpers Ferry, WV.

​@@FrankensteinDIYkayak "Boater in front of the raft, move it" - You sure did mention it, way more than once, and it was funny when you said, "we need a little airhorn or something," after Captain Glenn said, "try not to run over Steven," haha. It wasn't like those stories when you have said, "move it," how some have taken it as, "MOVE IT!" Like with the mushroom story at Moorefield Canyon, you always bring the best stories! Another good one, and fine example of you mentioning to "space out" was just before running Blue Hole at the "Bloomington" section of the North Branch of the Potomac River - at 5:57: "Kayaking the North Branch of the Potomac River: The 2023 September Whitewater Release (963cfs)" - th-cam.com/video/9JeTIG7ad4g/w-d-xo.html

I've done so many trips where a swim or mishap would have been prevented with a little spacing out but I would have been called an a@#$%^e if I would have yelled loudly enough. It might be a good idea if they practiced spacing out in good practice spots in AWA courses. @@PotomacPassageOolikhanna

​@@FrankensteinDIYkayak You really made that point and drove it home starting at 13:58, seems likely for most crews, but not with this one, that would respect and heed the cautionary advice out of concern for the best interest of everyone. The green kayaker who swam at Hat's Rock, at 31:06, almost got ran over, which is why I think he smacked The Purple Haze with his paddle, as he got squeezed in the pocket both rafts and the Shredder (our crew helps to assist his recovery). You sure called it with, "we're gonna have a big mash up here!"

Wow, couldn’t say it better myself. Wish I had been there!!!

@@jakevalentino7179 with your adventures on the high seas of the Chesapeake, Tohickon would definitely be your kind of rollercoaster screams kind of ride! Like being on the drag strip in "Cameron's Cars" kind of a thrill, haha. And...you should have seen John in his prime...he ran Ohiopyle Falls back in the day...and many trips down Maryland's wild and historic Savage River!

The most ideal weather conditions yet, and you so know it...and nailed it....always a great time (that so should become the motto), from 400 to 1,500cfs from how we know that treasured paradise. Looking forward to seeing how this paves the way for next year's turnout, and perhaps the next classic race of the region.

great place for a race with a campgrounds by the rapids at the putin. next time I'll bring the Frankenstein for more speed.. was glad he had no serious rock encounters.

Wow. So this trip is literally in two different states? Interesting