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Many jobs in the music business require some soloing, if not a major part. If you can't solo, you aren't a full musician, esp in commercial music. Time/Groove are important but what are you going to do when the bandleader says, "drummer, take 3 whole choruses." ? Are you going to play the form or get lost or not even know what he is talking about. Yes, soloing is just as important as time keeping !!

He did not develop himself as a soloist.....self taught with high valuabel insight from family and those in the biz.....He was not a full musician in the sense that he only kept time and did not develop as a solo drummer when needed.

I don't think they chose Jeff just because they wanted his feel, they needed somebody that could play it. Nick Mason couldn't figure it out.

@@Cpayne30 so...they chose Jeff BECAUSE of his feel. I have a hard time believing the Nick would have had trouble figuring this song. After all he is quite the human metronome and did extremely well on all the PF classics we know and love. I dunno... I guess only they know.

@@luvbasses5487 I've always heard the story as Nick just couldn't get it. Now Waters' definition of that could be that Nick couldn't do it to his taste. I just figure that Porcaro was picked because of his status, by Bob Ezrin - not really because the whole band sat down and said "Nick, we know this perfect guy for the feel of this."

THey needed to do it quickly due to studio restrictions, paid time etc. I think they were in France at the time. Nick couldn't catch the bar changes quickly enough to record it in full take in the time they had. The band was already into a lot of personal clashes. I think they've fired Rick Wright by that time as a full band member.@@Cpayne30

@@brianmcguire5175 Firstly, LEARN TO SPELL !!!! COLAIUTA !!! Vinnie's solo chops are more developed than anyone else ! He can solo chorus after chorus chorus after choruschorus after chorus chorus after chorus without repeating himself and his ideas AND phrasing is totally unique...no one has even come close to cloning him as many do for Gadd. Vinnie is a one of a kind and has just as much pocket (groove) as Porcaro, even more, because Vinnie colors it with unique touches !

@@toseedyou learn to spell!? Why are you arbitrating? I don't respect your view and that's my opinion here. Leave me alone so. Tell me your name so I can spell it wrong for you. Glad you can transcend minor errors and focus on substantive issues. Bye

@@toseedyou to reiterate, you accuse me of dyslexia while I accuse you of none serious contributions to a normally friendly discussion. ps, my points are smarter than yours, as shown via scope

@@toseedyou ok, I'm gonna leave my former messages up but I want to take back my defensive attack on you saying you aren't serious or that I'm smarter. It's not what I truly believe. I take it back. Just reacted negatively to your spelling comment. I'm leaving the exchange above though for internet interest though. I'd like now to soften my position and say that I do in fact respect you position on Colaiuta (hopeful spelt correctly now and if so it's because of you correcting me) . He is among or if not is my favourite drummer. But I try not to compare drummers like Pokémon cards. It's all music and human based after all. Preference is one thing but objective assesment is another. So, my final thoughts on my exchange with you is: I take back my crude assumptions about you expressed above. I actually am more aligned with your overall view on Colaiuta I'm comparative terms , strictly academically speaking though. And I'd like a reset between us that has us both sharing our views rather than clashing them. Yes, above is more my comments than yours but the spark of the fire wasn't mine to begin with . Let's reset and resume candor. Overall, I'm a fan of Vinnie just like you but also I invite you to lead away from demigod following. You must be a young fan and so with my older wisdom I advise broadening your respect scope. I don't want a drum monopoly, I personally enjoy the rich pool of talent this world offers us music fans. Don't you? I believe you do. So let's start there

​@brianmcguire5175 Young fan ??? Don't think do. I've been following Vinnies career since 1980. Met him many times and shared a 2 hour meal with him after a Patitucci tour he did in Balto. I'm in my mid 70s, but thanks for the YOUNG FAN compliment.

@Tomi Igo No, I listened many stories from my friends who known him

You knew him?

​@@Samsgarden not personally but I know many people who have known him and told me so. Do you have a personal event of thinking differently?

The point of this being special is that it is one of few (perhaps the only) examples of Jeff Porcaro playing a drum solo. He publicly stated that he was not that type of drummer. He would have been the first to admit he was not in the same league as Buddy technically. He was however considered one of the greatest recording drummers ever. He played on over 3000 sessions and is on hundreds of albums, including artists such as Steely Dan, Barbara Streisand, Paul McCartney, Sergio Mendes, Michael Jackson, Dire Straights, Larry Carlton ,(the list is exhaustive) as well as his own band Toto. If you want to explore his discography see en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Porcaro

TheReedable, you obviously don't know who Jeff Porcaro was!

@@mancuniancandidatem wow I see. Thanks man.

@@micknordstrom2591 no I did not! But when I go down a rabbit he of drum solos and I get this, I wasn't impressed at the time. However, I am ignorant though.

Buddy Rich is not the best drummer in the world, not even the 5#

I've been a drummer for 20+ years and I've never enjoyed drum solos. I just feel like the drum isn't an instrument designed for solos. It's designed to keep the beat, to create a groove, and to provide tasty fills occasionally. But solo,....no. After about 10 seconds,....boring!

Damn you must be really fucking good

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Jeff was a excellent rock drummer funk Simon Phillips was a outstanding drummer and drum solos I love both of them

@@adamgoodberg3916 You’re good, but you’re not jeff porcaro good

Bet you. You couldn't play an album straight to vinyl with band in studio and get it nailed within 1st 2nd or 3rd takes though who gives a rat ass about drum solos anyways

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Paiste..right? I was his Dad's student..Jeff was a little younger than me..I think was Paiste..bright and that crazy China cymbal (Most Zildjains have name of Allah on them, a taxi friend pointed it out! Alohas

@@nickavenoso7851 Thanks brother, O read something in the mags in da nineties ab Paiste..dim memories, and Joe's garage..xylo! Alohas and Mahalo

Oh come on man, Sonny also say: "Jeff Porcaro on drums" at 01:49. Anyway if you really know Jeff, you can recognize some of his patterns here.

Of course he has never played a solo, how do you know his solo style......what kind of comment is this? Anyway anybody who knows his sound can recognise him absolutely

@@drummerunner : I amended mine post 😂😂😂😂😂

you are wrong.