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If you are a synth. Then he is your father acually. All this confusion

Father sent Kellog to steal the sole survivors son, Shaun. Free from any taint of the wasteland to develope gen 3 synths. Piper is the same age in kellogs memory and in the sole survivors experience as well as travis and not 60 years older like "Shaun" would be according to father. The memory of a 10 year old shaun is the last version of him you see before he was turned into a synth. Father isnt Shaun. Father had shaun killed and replaced so there is no logical way Father is Shaun no matter what Bethesda has to say about it. At least in Fallout 3 you actually find your family and save the wasteland.

Piper would be like 60 or 80 if we are to trust the timeline father speaks of. Besthesda inconsistencies... The sole survivor was released 10 years after Shaun was kidnapped. Proof is in the pudding. All this to say Father is a giant sack of shite. Don't believe the institute. They are the enemy. Brotherhood all the way.

they did us dirty

ofcourse he's not, when you choose them you can c nobody approves of you because they r threatened you might be playing their own game back. If they really wanted you, they coule easily came back and teleport you to them, they act like they knew of you doing things for raikroad to build the teleporter yet they choose not to help you there. They made up the full story of the father son relation to play with you, they r enslavers making robots ditched the world and still try tp run it, they r the goverment that led u to the war...

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How did u get the option to fast travel in the luxury helicopter every time I get to that part only option I get is to set my waypoint and go exit helicopter

I figured this happened

Nice

Inconsistent just do Jerry can method bro

What a noob, havin your yacht that far is crazy. youre not an average merger.. bring your yacht closer to terminal

The audio is cutting out at times. Plus the commentator is talking very softly and stumbling over his words, just like Travis Miles the radio host in the game. So, coming to any real conclusions is almost impossible. From what I did understand? It's highly possible.

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People do not need to be killed in order to be replaced by a synth. One of the ways to complete the main quest of Far Harbor is to replace the leader of the Children of Atom with a synth and you can talk him into simply walking away. When the institute replaces people, they at least some of the time experiment on them in the FEV lab. Presumably they have to be alive for a while to experiment on them.

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Dude is reaching so hard.

Can you do the glitch so I see what I need to do

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Still amazing after 8 years, though I only watched this 4 years ago and it was so cool to see how the intricate the plot twist was. And I personally never liked Father as Shaun.❤❤😅😅

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I think it’s dumb that it does that when u pause the broadcast but I guess skip it

The old man Kellog is talking about is The old man you meet at Rivet City from Fallout 3. I dont remember his name. But in the institute 1 of the head scientists is temporarily in charge of that dept while the old man is away on a secret mission. At least 1 terminal has a few things about him.

I agree the old man is not Shaun. It would be the most messed up thing any game can do is put the player in the position of killing their own son.

Remember, your in Kellogg's head. Everything your seeing is Kellogg's memories. The first boy in your video is Kellogg as a child. Its explaining how Kellogg got to be the way he is. The second child, the baby, was Kellogg's daughter who was killed my the people in the third video clip. The last video clip is a recent memory not from years ago. So far I don't see the proof you keep claiming is here.

Kellog was around before Father(Shaun) as Father(Shaun) states that Kellog had been working for the institute before he was taken thus he does say Old man Referring to Shaun as he is old due solely on the fact that we were re cryogenically froze for another 60yrs so Codsworth is sorta correct that we been in the vault for 200 years as we don't know how long we been frozen before being awakened for Kellog to take Shaun. Therefore when we f8nally Leave Vault111 it would've been 140ish years since we were froze and roughly 60 when we were refroze as for why we are not old is because we were Essentially Frozen in time meaning we had not aged as time was halted for our character only. The Little Kid in Kellogs Flashback is a Synth created by Father(Shaun) as a way to Give our character false hope until our character finally makes it to the institute. Father(Shaun) is full human as he's on His dying bed no matter what Faction you side with from an Aggressive Form of Cancer. So Yes the Kid you see in the Memories is a Synth however Father(Shaun) has his way of think8ng from being brainwashed by his previous Predecessors.

Shaun is Nate's son, his appearance changes depending on yours. He only lets you out of the vault do to emotional purposes and as a ''experiment'' he put it and even on his death bed gifts you a synth of what a child Shaun would look like even after you go to destroy the institute this synth never betrays you and acts just like how a tinkering child would. Shaun was kidnapped and brainwashed to only care about the institute and the future of mankind and ignores basic morality in his leadership due to how he was raised in Nate's absence. Also Bethesda literally confirmed he was Nate's son, Though this post is 6 years old haha.

You are a lab rat for a synth. Does it not get any more obvious?

Ohhhh... And they put synth shaun there to throw you off whe you first reach the institue!

This Is False Information!

The only problem I find here is it's canon that the first gen three synth shows up sixty years ago as confirmed by Nick and the Covenant quest so the argument that Shaun was taken more recently doesn't work and father/Shaun says while in the institute he had the child synth Shaun made to have you track down kellogg the scientist even question in their personal logs why father had them make a synth based on him as a child meaning father is either another synth clone and if he was he wouldn't die of sickness like the end of the game has

This guy's only proof is the fact that kellog says the old man didn't want loose ends, so he let the vault dwellers that they didn't need die, and the leader of the institute before father was a women. What he doesn't consider is this being the leader before the woman that was before father, or even just the middle man between kellog and the institute. I highly doubt that kellog was constantly updated on who is in what position in the institute, the previous leader could have easily died without him knowing and so he thought old man instead of the lady. Also, he says that the 10 year old in the last memory has to either be real shaun only a small bit before the player exits vault 111 because you hear travis on the radio, or that it's the newly made synth shaun and the real shaun is dead because of the process to make synths kills the original person. Well, one It's clearly synth shaun as the game clearly states both in this sequence if you click on the 10 year old and later by father. Second, the process of making a gen 3 synth doesn't kill the original person as there are several occurrences in the game where a gen 3 synth and the original person are in a fight about who the real one is and the player can choose who to believe. This is clear evidence that the process itself doesn't kill the human, the institute just kills them to tie up loose ends. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your theory is wrong, and since you like to call people who don't believe your Lack Luster examination R*tarded, I guess that makes you dumber than a R*tard. Thanks for belligerently spreading miss information.

The very simple thing to me is that at the point of the knidnapping Shaun is a baby and Kellogg is a Man who looks mature. When you finaly get to him at fort Hagen he doesnt look to have aged that much so we definitely are in a 10 year time frame, kind of, or he would be looking very old. So seeing Father looking even older than Kelogg while he was supposed to be a baby at the time of it's kidnapping makes no sense. Even more, Kelogg is a merc who had access to "some" implant and treatments who could have helped him to slow he's aging process can be proclamed to advocate on he's very good physical appearance... But why does Father, who lived underground in a very protected environnement and who is supposed to have climbed to trust of the institue from kidnapped subject to the very top lead of the institute would not have been able to access even more implants/treatement than Kelogg and would have aged at a very different, and WORSE speed than Kelogg??? It just makes no sense than Father would be the original Shaun, at all.

It's funny how Kellogg was alive in the same time as the chosen one protagonist of second Fallout.

i like the disturbing thought baby Shaun was "used up" to make the gen3 synths or 10yr old Shaun was "used up" either one is fine since he was a kid synth and synths usually replace exact replica i think and the reason father didn't tell you this information was because he was trying to convince you to join them so if he said "yeah we used your baby as a science experiment to make fake humans and we want you to join us" *explosive shotgun to the face* its just such a dark heartless gut curling idea of the things they did to your baby and make you want to end them all out of existence and a pure hatred for any other synth because its a constant reminder but i think because you can change your character father changes too so it's just doesn't hold firm

What if they took Shaun's DNA first. Then made him into clones and used those clones for the FEV experiment.

Shaun Is Dead In Fallout 4. The Father Is Not Shaun. The Synth Is Not Shaun. NO ONE IS SHAUN. HE'S FUCKING DEAD.

Zero watchers, zero comments. Unsurprised.

The brotherhood of steel has been in every fallout since fallout 1. I think if you're going to be coming up with theories about fallout lore, you really should be familiar with fallout lore. 🙄

Good points. But what an annoying video.

The storywriting doesn't quite add up, I actually think making Father your son was some sort of last minute decision by the devs, but he is indeed supposed to be shaun. The strongest proof that Father is indeed your son is the NPC "Father" himself. He looks like a combination of how you create your Nate and Nora. This gets extremely obvious when you make your character look rather extreme, like with an unnatural skin color or something like that.

You know Bethesda could have also goofed and didn't catch it

Your evidence seems likely, but my one doubt is the fact that there was like a random occurrence that you find anywhere in the wasteland where there's two NPCs named Ark shooting at each other. I do agree that it mostly seems like the DNA is taken after the person is dead, but if that is true why is Ark alive shooting at his replacement, wouldn't be dead long before that Synth that looks like him to be created? So the case ur making seems likely expect mainly the Ark guy. Also it could also be that Kellogg is saying 10 years instead of 60 due the devs wanting to hide the fact it's 60 years, this case isn't so strong cuz it's pretty much saying they value the twist more then the script, but idk.

I'll tell you what's "retarded", subjecting viewers to 5 plus minutes of irrelevant video before getting to the "proof".

that's a synth

This is actually true because father is about 80 years old but when you get to the final memory you can hear Travis miles (dc dj) complain about things piper is doing and if you kill Travis he doesn’t have a synth chip so there’s your proof

Hmmm... So... The Institute is Fallout's Cyberdine only without Skynet.

Father is supposed to be your son meanwhile he works with his mother's killer his whole life while keeping his father on ice until he die, i mean at that point, without even considering the horrors the institute has done under his leadership, whether he is your son or not there is no way you don't just shot the guy dead on sight.

Also how do we know everyone in the institute hasn't been replaced by synths. Not a single human there.