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Hello, mine are 19x10cm

@@newhopeGO you like size mini or MD

@@Miniminnyx I have not tried the medium X2H

I am not too sure to be honest since its been a really long time since I used an EC2. I think I would recommend getting the EC2, try it out, and if its too big return it for an EC3. Make sure you dont use it too much of course for the return policy.

My hands are 19x10cm

Sorry I just realized you stated your hand size right at the beginning of the video. Do you think I could pull off the occasional "loose" palm grip on this with 18x9 hands or will my fingers overhang the buttons?

@@digitalfruitcake24 I think it will be too short since it's barely long enough for me to claw

@@newhopeGO Thanks. Now I'm torn as the EC2 felt a bit too long for me to grip aggressively in the heat of a match (bit too bulky) but the EC3 sounds like it might be too short. Decisions... Thanks for helping, good review!

@digitalfruitcake24 No worries and thank you! Don't forget that if there's a return policy you can always try it and then send it back if you don't like it ( as long as you don't mess up the mouse )

They're vastly different mice, but I would give it to the xm2we. Both are great though!

Yes they do!

It's a BenQ Zowie XL2546 Divina Edition!

@@newhopeGO Wow so cool! Didn't know that Zowie made white ones.

@hidayetestela9793 Yes, it was a limited release from a long time ago. They had mouse pads and mice with special colors as well.

Later in vid stated 19x10cm for anyone curious

Glad I was of help! Yes I have 19x10 cm hands.

Yes I did remove that beforehand, ty for the tip though!

I have heard people having issues with the coating on the Red one, I myself was very satisfied with the coating on the Grey version.

@@newhopeGO yes i heard red has smooth coating which i like more :) the thing is before u buy u cant open the box and test if u like, i woult test maya red, black, and atlantis mini, to test shape, size, coating.. so i just have to try my luck, do u know if there will be white maya?

@@stefan7848 I'm not sure if there will be a white one.

It's definitely a mouse that I am interested in. Next up will be the OP1we and Xlite V3 Es, maybe after that I could do one on the Beast X!

@@newhopeGO overall it's an amazing mouse but some people are saying their copy has sharp cutouts and people who bought limited edition color copy doesn't have sharp cutouts.

They are different shapes with the atlantis mini obviously having its hump towards the back for example, so it really depends on what you would want. I personally enjoyed the Atlantis Mini a slight bit more since I did not have any issues with the front right of the mouse like I have with the Maya. I personally would just try the Atlantis Mini since you bought it already, and if you like it, keep it unless you think the Maya sits more towards your preferences. FYI, in Europe it's sold out everywhere as well as on Lamzu's own website. Hope this helps :)

I personally don't agree with that but you can have a different opinion of course!

When enabling 4k, my sens felt higher but I did not feel like it was "better". On paper the latency is better with 4khz but I didn't feel a big change if any. My PC performance felt the same when switching between 1khz and 4khz. Hope this helps :)

@@newhopeGO Appreciate the reply, thanks!

Sounds like a solid plan!

@@newhopeGO do you like Lamzu thorn more than EC3CW ?

@@Decki777 Both are nice but I like the EC3 better

I returned my Xlite v3 eS and just bought EC3-CW. Probably just going to wait for Xlite v3 Mini and Xlite v3 1.5 eS next year.

@@jtzmugetsuo2943 did you think the eS was too big for your liking?

Firstly, thank you! 😊 Secondly, If you fingertip the ec2, the ec3 could indeed be a better option for you if you found the ec2 to be a bit too large sometimes. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions and which mouse you end up choosing!

Yes, it's a sticker which you get in the box. You can decide yourself if you want to put it on there or not.

At the time, I was using a regular LGG Saturn mousepad. I play CS with 1.45 sens at 400 dpi, and the skates personally felt fine for me, even on a slower mousepad, which I am using now ( Laonda Rizz XSoft ). But gaming mice and their features are highly subjective, so if you feel like they are too slow, I could recommend getting some 3rd party skates like Corepad Pro skates. Edit: Getting new skates is cheaper than a new mousepad, but if you would rather get a new mousepad instead, you can do that as well, of course.

Thank you!

Yeah it's been a while since they were in stock. The plastic type thing you see on the bottom is a sticker you get in the box, you can just leave the holes open if you'd like.

It is not any more but it was for quite a long time. It is indeed a great mouse and the regular XM2w would be, no pun intended, end game for claw grip players if they finally finish it 😅

I have about the same dimensions as you, 19x10cm. Hope this helps!

@@newhopeGOThat is helpful, thank you for the great review!

@Xerpocalypse_ thank you! 😁

I do not know how those would sound but could be 😅

The optical switches in the Thorn are Raesha optical switches, similar to Pulsar and Razer.

Thank you!

I charge my mouse every other day so I never run into any battery problems. I sometimes charge it when I'm eating for example or during the night. So I did not test how many days it would have gone without charging in between.

@@newhopeGO I see, thanks. And why the classic and not 4k? Do you think it's not worth it? It's understandable the price diff as well though

​@@wafleez0r It was on sale at the time which made it more appealing for me. And after trying 4khz on the DAV3 for a little bit I don't think 4khz is necessary. A 4khz mouse won't make you better if you are bad on a 1khz mouse. Hope this answers your question! :)

Hey, thank you for the follow! The hump is a bit less wide on the X2H mini compared to a Atlantis and XM2we for example. The X2H Mini will be able sit in and fill our palm. With the Atlantis you are resting your palm more on the hump rather than having it sit in and fill out your palm. I can't perfectly explain it but I hope it makes sense and helps 😅

that does, thanks!@@newhopeGO

No, the HTS is a bit shorter with a hump more towards the middle relative to the X2H shape. If you want a rough comparison of the outlines of the shapes you can check the eloshapes website.

@@newhopeGO Tnx for the information, which if these do you prefer?

@-nue-4226 the HTS was too short for me, might also be due to the hump not being as far back. I prefer the X2H Mini over the HTS.

@@newhopeGO okay tnx!

@-nue-4226 No worries! Happy to help 🙂

I personally have not used the Atlantis mini myself so my recommendation between the two would be an estimate. In this situation I would recommend watching reviews of both and think of what aspects you like better on which mouse and eventually decide between the two.

They are two completely different shapes, and shape is subjective so there is no way someone can answer your question. Everyone will have a different opinion

Hello, I did not have that issue with my unit

​@@newhopeGOAlright bro, thanks for the reply. Great review anyway.

@@wengieangga4254 Thank you!

Thank you! I have similar sized hands and play relaxed claw grip. I love my np-01s. If you play with claw grip I think that you would like the np-01s as well!

@newhopeGO oh oops I forgot to put my grip style I play fingertip 😅

@@joemufa4594 The new Pulsar X2V2 mini will be a good option for fingertip grip.

Hopefully it works out for you! I have about the same size hands and I really like it. Thank you!

I ordered it at Maxgaming!

@@newhopeGO ok thank you

@@newhopeGO should i get the mini or the og v2 my hands are kinda small. rn i have a glorious model o wireless idk what version of the mouse to get

@@HyperGoatLive If you want an Atlantis I would say the normal size since the mini is much shorter than the model o. The atlantis does have a hump in the back compared to the flatter and hump in the middle model o. If you are looking for something a bit more similar to the model o I can recommend the Viper V2 Pro but both are good options! I hope this helps :)

@@newhopeGO ok thank you for helping me

Thank you! LMK what you think of it once you get it!

I would say the Deathadder in your situation. Palm gripping would probably be better on the Deathadder due to the shape. Both the X2 and XM2we are a bit more tailored for Claw grip with their higher humps in the back but it could work, especially if it's for work and not necessarily for gaming. The Viper is really flat so that would imo be on the bottom of the list you mentioned. The Deathadder is a lot bigger than the X2 and XM2we but also more expensive. If you have the money for it I would personally go for the Deathadder in your situation. If you do not want to spend as much money you could try either of the X2 or XM2we ( XM2we is my favorite and feels more premium than the X2 in my opinion ). Don't forget that you might be able to return it within 30 days or so depending on where you buy it from if you end up not liking the mouse you bought. But be sure to check that before ordering, I am not sure if all stores offer this. I hope this helps somehow 😅 and good luck with your decision!

@newhope thanks NH. Buying a mouse is bloody hard! Yes I'll give dav3 a go. Da mini was just too small for me :( wonky proportioned hands

@@challengeronrift Hopefully the DAV3 will work for you!

I'm sorry I do not understand your question 😅 Could you rephrase it?

Thank you very much!

Welcome, hope you enjoy 😁

Yes I have been maining it ever since I got it! The Rouge is really nice. Great surface, not too fast imo but still a little bit faster than the normal GSR SE. I haven't used a Vaxee PA so I can't tell you which is better, sorry 🙃

Thank you! Appreciate the feedback! Will definitely try to up the content for the next review!

@@newhopeGO You are welcome ♥