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Black Forest Saddles
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2016
Black Forest Stables, Inc., DBA Black Forest Saddles, is owned and operated by Vic Sivitilli, of Black Diamond, Washington. We import and breed the rare breed of horses known as the Black Forest Draft Horses from Germany.
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I'm not sure this will work because my horse has high withers
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I'm not sure this will work because my horse has high withers
My horse is round, no withers and slips
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My horse is round, no withers and slips
Using a treeless and horse has a sore back
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Using a treeless and horse has a sore back
Why is a treeless better than my custom
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Why is a treeless better than my custom
He’s talking about poorly fitting trees. A properly fit tree doesn’t only touch on four corners, the bars all rest on the horses back. So is the treeless better than a proper trees saddle or just bad ones? And then the example of the pony express, that was bad practice, not proof of whether a tree works well or not. Sounds like a sales pitch.
What a load of bunkum....a decent treed saddle will be made on a tree that fits the shape of the horse - we don't just ride in a saddle that doesn't fit the horse. Unfortunately the old analogy of the clog is probably the most ridiculous one ever as the clog was designed to be used all day by people in agriculture, factories and mines and remained unchanged for centuries - don't you think they would have been rejected if they didn't work?
Yeah he had to straw man treed saddles in order to compare his.
Please provide brand and type of pad
I absolutely love my Blackforest Treeless Shasta and so does my horse. It also amazes me how completely comfortable I am in it no matter how long the trail ride, even after my severe injuries from being hit by a car while walking years ago. Thank you for creating great saddles for horses and riders. 🥰♥️
maybe you want to see this video here before you decide... th-cam.com/video/8tKB0VqAYQs/w-d-xo.html
@@WhiteKitta I don't need to decide, I have been riding Treeless for over 10 years and my horses back is in excellent shape. In fact my horse backs away from me if i approach with treed saddles but stands happily for the Treeless. I always listen to my horse. In saying that too i am very conscious of how much weight he carries and watch my own weight, I have mostly weighted 115lbs but right now I am 120 lbs . A rider should always consider the weight a horse has to carry no matter the type of saddles they choose and generally speaking horses should not carry more than 20% of their weight for extended periods, this weight must include the weight of tack and rider. I did watch the video and her explanation of Treeless saddles was uneducated and ridiculous. Almost all Endurance riders here in Canada ride Treeless and they ride up to 50 Km in a day. Cheaply made knock off Treeless saddles on Amazon might fit the description of your video, but not properly made authentic Treeless saddles from reputable companies like Bob Marshall, Black Forest, Barefoot, Ghost, etc. All these companies have specialized pads to go with each saddle and provide proper spinal clearance and balance. I just bought my 3rd Treeless saddle and pad for Christmas this year, a Barefoot Madrid and I am super excited.
I have a synthetic saddle I have had for nearly 20 years. It has been on literally hundreds and hundreds of miles of trails. It has been in the Ocean. It has been on the west coast and the east coast. I have never done any maintenance on it. My leather tack is a pain. It molds in the south in the summer. My synthetic does not do this. My synthetic saddle is much easier to maintain and has no tears or scratches. I can't Imagine any branch that could tear my saddle. To me the only reason they made saddles out of leather back in the day was because that is the only material available. To me synthetic is far superior.
Why treeless? I understand those do not protect the horse's spine..... ??
The Gauchos in South America have been useing treeless saddles for centuries.
I don’t think that’s accurate, what kind of saddle do they use?
My horse is all of the above 😩
What is your opinion on flex tree saddles. I’m getting my first horse and I don’t know if I should get a treeless saddle a treed saddle or a flex tree saddle. Thanks
Flex tree is still a tree. It is nothing close to a treeless. All that means is they use a composite over wood which is supposed to move, however it still needs to be fit just right in order to not impact the horses movement. This would definitely be specific to the horse you’re looking at.
This Shasta Saddle doesn't seem to give the 3 finger wither clearance at the pommel that western saddle should...suggestions to obtain more clearance?
Where do you get that pad
Did u ever find out? I've only been able to find tiny pads
I’ve always ridden in a treeless saddle when I’ve had my own personal horse. I do this because I prefer the closer contact, I feel I don’t feel my horse properly in a treed saddle. But this was a bit of a problem with my previous horse, who had high withers, and even with pads and the saddle I could still feel his spine, which means he felt me sitting in his spine. Fast forward to now, I have a young Appaloosa who is filling out and will have a nice round back. He is almost three, and I’ve never educated a young horse before from scratch. I have no intention of showing or competing him but I’d like him to be educated in the paces and have some refinement. I’ve been lead to believe that treeless saddles are bad for a horse’s back, but after listening to you I’m now wondering if I could actually school him in my treeless saddle. I ride him around and stuff but we haven’t started on the paces. And I thought maybe a post trot would be too hard on his back in a treeless saddle. Im shopping for a treed saddle but frankly it’s very difficult and stressful. I’d appreciate your thoughts ☺️cheers
which saddle is this that you show how it moves?
From what I've seen it looks like a Bonzai. I'm just going by all the D-rings and the western horn on it.
My synthetic saddle lasted much longer than my leather one.
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I want to get a non slip saddle pad for my new treeless saddle hilason.com/hilason-treeless-western-trail-barrel-racing-horse-riding-saddle.html should i get a rear riser or I am thinking a mid riser to keep me off of her spine , www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1KGUWY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&smid=A3PCHGX78VTID9&th=1 put some extra padding between her spine & my tail bone with the mid riser ? am I correct ? of course this non slip pad will go under another thick regular pad too. thank you .
on my new treeless western saddle hilason.com/hilason-treeless-western-trail-barrel-racing-horse-riding-saddle.html I want to use a non slip pad www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1KGTJI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?ie=UTF8&smid=A3PCHGX78VTID9&th=1 should i use a mid riser or a rear riser to help keep me off my horses spine ? thank you very much ?
What brand and model of saddle is this?