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Why Warhammer Fans Should Read Stormlight Archive
Calling all Warhammer 40k fans! ⚔️ If you're obsessed with rich lore, epic battles, and complex characters, you're going to love The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson! 📚
In this video, we dive deep into why The Stormlight Archive starting with "The Way of Kings" is the PERFECT series for Warhammer 40k players. 🌌 From its massive worldbuilding, intricate magic systems, and morally grey characters to its relentless wars and factions that mirror the grimdark future of 40k-this series has everything you crave.
What we cover:
1:39 ⚔️ Epic Worldbuilding on the Scale of Warhammer 40k
3:59 🛡️ Characters as Complex as Your Favorite 40k Heroes & Villains
9:52 🔥 Factions and Orders That Feel Just Like the Astartes or Chaos
13:50 🧙 Themes of Duty, War, and Sacrifice-Parallels to 40k’s Grimdark Universe
17:08 🌌 Why The Stormlight Archive is the Fantasy Series You Can’t Miss!
If you’ve been looking for a break from Warhammer 40k but still want that same deep, immersive experience, The Stormlight Archive is your next read! Tune in to find out why. 🎥
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Baal Ablaze! The Blood Angels' Darkest Hour in Warhammer 40K Lore
The Blood Angels face their most harrowing battle yet in The Devastation of Baal! In this epic Warhammer 40,000 book by Guy Haley, we witness Commander Dante and his noble chapter struggle against the relentless swarm of Hive Fleet Leviathan. Will the Blood Angels survive the overwhelming onslaught of the Tyranids, or will Baal fall into darkness? In today’s deep dive, we’ll explore the thrilli...
Discover the Shocking Truth About US Military vs Space Marine Legions
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Ever wondered how the mighty Space Marine Legions from Warhammer 40,000 stack up against real-world military forces? In this video, we break down each of the 18 First Founding Legions and compare them to their US military counterparts. From the disciplined Ultramarines to the ferocious Space Wolves, and even the twisted Chaos Legions, we’ve matched each of them with a branch, unit, or division ...
Build a LEGENDARY Salamanders Army in Warhammer 40K!
Are you ready to bring the Salamanders to life on the tabletop with a lore-accurate army straight out of Deathfire by Nick Kyme? In this Warhammer 40K guide, we dive deep into building a Salamanders force that captures the fiery spirit of Vulkan’s sons. From key characters like Artellus Numeon and the elite Firedrakes to painting tips for scorched armor and flamers, we’ve got everything you nee...
Fire & Death: The Most Important Battle of the Salamanders
Are you ready to dive deep into the world of the Salamanders and their quest for redemption? In this review, we’re breaking down Deathfire by Nick Kyme, a key installment in the Horus Heresy series. We'll explore Artellus Numeon's emotional journey to return the body of Primarch Vulkan to Nocturne, while the Salamanders face devastating loss and battle the Word Bearers. Is this book worth addin...
How Expeditionary Force Inspires an Epic Warhammer 40k Game: Imperium vs. Drukhari
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Warhammer 40K: Building a Lore Accurate Astra Militarum Army
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STORMLIGHT Archives Meets WARHAMMER 40k in EPIC Tabletop Showdown
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The Tragic Untold Stories of Warhammer 40,000
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🔥 How to Build a Lore Accurate Tanith 1st Army (Gaunt’s Ghosts) 🔥
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🔰 Top 5 Warhammer 40,000 Authors You Need to Read! 🔰
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Building a Lore-Accurate Tyranid Army
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The Dark Angels: Warhammer 40K's Most Tragic Heroes
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Building an Imperial Knights Army (and Why You Should, Too)
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The “Assassins” You Never Knew About
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How to Actually Build a Lore Accurate White Scars Army
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The 5 Hardest Warhammer 40,000 Armies to Build and Play | Warhammer 40k Challenges
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The Lion: Son of the Forest - The Book That Will Change Humanity Forever
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Vulkan Lives: The Warhammer Novel That Dares To Dream
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Is Cthonia's Reckoning Worth the Hype?
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Top 5 Warhammer 40,000 Starter Armies | Best Beginner Armies for New Players
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  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This will be a great warm up for DragonSteel Nexus next week. Can't wait to see the army builds

  • @robertlewis8295
    @robertlewis8295 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My son has a reputation at our FLGS as "The guy who does melee with Tau". Not that he is successful with it, he just does it because he says it's fun. That is the army he started with, he's starting a Knights force with the new battleforce box.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's awesome! If you have fun playing it then it doesn't matter. The biggest goal is to have fun.

  • @darthkillhoon
    @darthkillhoon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As an Army Engineer myself, I completely cosign the Imperial Fists. Also Army Civil Affairs is a good one for Word Bearers as well.

  • @radupitica
    @radupitica 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe not the best for the Tyranids but Devastation of Baal has a lot of really cool Tyranid moments and parts. The bits about the lictor were so cool to read.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you have recommendations, I'd love to read them.

  • @jackflashman3322
    @jackflashman3322 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The CIA - Alpha Legion connection makes a lot of sense!

  • @CalebAdams
    @CalebAdams 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't actually play the tabletop, just a lore nerd, but this was a really cool concept for a video! Thoroughly enjoyed it, bravo

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm glad you liked it. It was fun to bled the two.

  • @ChapterAncientWier
    @ChapterAncientWier 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved the recommendations. I have a few to shout out!!! Kasrkin- Edoardo Albert (kroot focus) Dark imperium - guy Haley (named greater deamons) The Lords of silence - Chris wraight (death guard 40k) Shroud of night - Andy Clark (alpha legion/sisters/imperial fists) Blood of Iax - Robbie macnieven (orks and ultramarines)

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love those shout outs! I may have to do a deeper dive because there are a lot for each faction.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The next video looks like fun!

  • @Phox-VF
    @Phox-VF 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like that series.. it's pretty fun he does have a problem or two >.> but it's a fun one.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like if to, but it's fair about the problems.

    • @Phox-VF
      @Phox-VF 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@ReadersThatWargame i love the perspective I love that pur hero does actually have to contend with everything... *coughs* i do like how the author addresss the... probability engine they are running through Skippy our Magical Beer can shaped overlord.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this series! I'll have to try this on the tabletop.

  • @fifty-fiftybread8643
    @fifty-fiftybread8643 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, I love this channel as I am very happy to see that there is an appetite for narrative and lore based wargaming. I would like to know: what is the thought process is for selecting the army lists/force compositions to fit the set narrative? Once again great video, God bless!

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm glad you're enjoying it! We're there specific questions, or were you requesting another video?

    • @fifty-fiftybread8643
      @fifty-fiftybread8643 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@ReadersThatWargame I was asking a specific question. Thank you.

  • @torvar1972
    @torvar1972 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm reading eisenhorn right now enjoying it so far though some of it is a little dry

  • @d.warren9197
    @d.warren9197 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very handsome man ❤

  • @The-Machine-God
    @The-Machine-God 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Machine God is pleased and remember always watching

    • @makiK6
      @makiK6 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oops instructions unclear became a heretic

  • @j1gsaw
    @j1gsaw 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great series makes me laugh, skippy is such an enjoyable arse hole. I recommend the audio books v well read by RC bray.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't wait!

  • @Modernarcher119
    @Modernarcher119 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks dog, I’ll try it!

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely do, it's one of my favorites

  • @omgponies111
    @omgponies111 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The female Magus kit in GSC can easily be used a psyker. Either as-is or in a kitbash.

  • @omgponies111
    @omgponies111 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the recommendation, I'll add it to my to-read list.

  • @the_chubax
    @the_chubax 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Started a few weeks ago. With eisenhorn and ciaphas cain. My question is do you think it’s worth diving into all of the horus heresy once I get more of the other books under me

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The short answer is eventually yes, but I always recommend easing yourself into the world before the lore deep dive. The Heresy has a lot of fantastic books but it's a big commitment.

    • @the_chubax
      @the_chubax 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ thanks! That’s great news. Cause I’m really falling deep into this world lol. In a few short weeks. I’ve finished Xenos. The first 2 ciaphas Cain books. Heroes of the space marines collection and now halfway through crusades and other stories. I’ll read a few more. Maybe Gaunts ghosts. And a few other series before diving into Horus.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds like a great plan. The Heresy is awesome and a major plot points, but don't feel like you have to lead with it in the reading order.

  • @rolandtitrentaquattro3109
    @rolandtitrentaquattro3109 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Almost everyone makes a mistake when trying to build their astra militarum armies, lore accurate. The same mistake is made by the gw hobby team: for example a player wants to play with the 4th Cadian regiment. The infantry is from the 4th Cadian regiment, the tanks are from the 4th Cadian regiment and the kaskerins are from the 4th Cadian regiment... WRONG! Because the lore explains to us that, for example, the 4th Cadian is a line infantry regiment... The motorized infantry, the tanks, the kaskerins cannot be part of the 4th Cadian regiment. The leman russ will come from an armored regiment. Probably during a war a combined forces formation will be created under the command of officers of the 4th Cadian but I don't think it makes sense to have Kaskerin or Leman Russ with the insignia of the 4th Cadian... This is especially true when using very specialized regiments... For example if you want to play Tanith only the light infantry will be Tanith, mechanized infantry will be from another regiment, the same artillery, tanks and everything else.

    • @rolandtitrentaquattro3109
      @rolandtitrentaquattro3109 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As for heavy weapons... I imagine that the munitorum department will assign the Tanith infantry laser cannons if their mission is to ambush tanks, if they have to cross rough terrain they will be mounted on chimeras of a motorized regiment.. But surely a Tanith infantryman will not learn overnight to drive a hellhound or to be part of a howitzer battery.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. You are right on that. There were a few books where heavy weapons were directly attached to them, so I had to run with them to even make a playable list. I did have to stretch and pull from the entire series, so not just make this straight infantry, which wouldn't be legal to play.

    • @rolandtitrentaquattro3109
      @rolandtitrentaquattro3109 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ReadersThatWargame In the series and the stories, ghosts often work side by side with other regiments: heavy infantry, armor, and artillery (i did not remember all the names... but i remember the regiment with the basilisks they befriended or the heavy infantry, with armor and flamethrowers of a sanctuary world) To play units that are not strictly infantry, you could include these regiments. As for heavy weapons, it should be remembered that any veteran infantryman will know how to use a laser cannon or a heavy bolter, just as any modern veteran knows how to use a mortar, a machine gun, or a rocket launcher.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a cool idea! I've never thought about doing this.

  • @lawsonhembree9013
    @lawsonhembree9013 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should talk about the dark angels, thousand suns, or tyranids

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually already have a video about the Dark Angels and Tyranids. I'll add the Thousand Sons to my list though.

    • @lawsonhembree9013
      @lawsonhembree9013 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ReadersThatWargamesounds super solid i’ll watch the dark angels and tyranids now fs

  • @igneuswolf363
    @igneuswolf363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ooh. Do Guant's Ghosts

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I actually already did. You should check it out. th-cam.com/video/qFFVCWU5LwA/w-d-xo.html

  • @nurgles_be_saggy
    @nurgles_be_saggy หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find the Tau super interesting you should do something with them

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got mine this morning! Can't wait to get into book 2.

  • @sf6break
    @sf6break หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an all primaris 3rd Brotherhood army led by Kor’sorro and I built it to be primarily hit and run infantry with 3x 3 Outrider squads (because that’s all that you could run at the time). I also run 2 Glad Valiants. It’s good at scoring but not great at surviving… but I haven’t played since 9th.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's that way but less likely to live in 10th. I have a similar build from 9th that I play for fun now.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was really cool! I'd never heard of these guys before.

  • @NoahNaugler
    @NoahNaugler หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this ! I’m newer to warhammer and the scars are my chapter and whole building my army this has been my biggest predicament but not anymore !

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad this helped, we White Scars need to stick together.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait! I already have mine pre ordered.

  • @jackflashman3322
    @jackflashman3322 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IW fans have wanted a novelization of The Iron Cage for nearly two decades now. A 40k version/rematch would be great.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I completely agree. I've just started to learn more about them and I think they may be my chaos legion.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to read any of these stories!

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I hope to write them someday.

  • @saidmagallon8367
    @saidmagallon8367 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍👍.

  • @TheInTheory
    @TheInTheory หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget Try Again

  • @schwacked226
    @schwacked226 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 regiments at founding not companys

  • @Jakey44
    @Jakey44 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So looking forward to the Lore Accurate Blood Angels!

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's in the works. I'm wanting to pair it with the Siege of Baal book review to get it accurate

  • @fifty-fiftybread8643
    @fifty-fiftybread8643 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, thank you. God bless.

  • @BornfromtheSun
    @BornfromtheSun หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video dude!

  • @Alejandrooo228
    @Alejandrooo228 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No chris wraith? Should give the khan series a try

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll have to check that out. I haven't read much from him.

  • @lancelloyd8762
    @lancelloyd8762 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great list. I would have move adb up. Also you missed William King; he got me into the 40K universe. He is in my top 5.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't read a lot of William King. I'll have to read more of his books.

  • @McVilla1N
    @McVilla1N หลายเดือนก่อน

    My dude much appreciated right after my bday.

  • @bc3262
    @bc3262 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Peter Watts does a lot of stuff thats got a lot of the same spirit as 40K. His omnibus called Fire Fall has two novels in it that are set soon in earths future but give a very 40K vibe. It’s almost a little cyberpunk given human modifications, but there’s also a race of predatory vampires that humans enslaved, and an ominous object near Jupiter that seems to be observing earth. Worth a read! Also, the novel Annihilation has some excellent science fiction horror that could take place in the 40K universe. There’s a movie starring Natalie Portman that, while decent, is nothing like the books plot or quality. The Deep by Nick Cutter is also a good shout. The prose is a little too pulpy for me but I enjoyed the plot for what it was, and again, sci-fi horror done quite well.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great suggestion, I haven't read most of those.

  • @bc3262
    @bc3262 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for a great video! I’ve been in and out of 40K for about 20 years and Dan Abnett was always considered the gold standard. I remember reading Pestilence, a short story in the Deathwing Anthology, and it set the bar absurdly high for all other authors at the time. I’ll need to give Mike Brooks’ stuff a try though, that’s some pretty high praise. I’m reading some of Peter Fehervari’s stuff right now. Worth checking out if you haven’t. Do you take video ideas? If you do, how about recommendations based on genre? I’m always up for 40K but sometimes I feel like something more comedic, or horror, for example. I think pretty much most genres are accounted for now under the Black Library banner.

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, those are fantastic ideas. I'll have to think about doing those.

  • @atlanta_greg_7612
    @atlanta_greg_7612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good list and I am stoked to finish Horus Rising so I can check out your number 1 🎉

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good choice! It's one of my favorites

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an awesome idea. I've loved playing this game.

  • @LegendsoftheLibrariums
    @LegendsoftheLibrariums 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This looks like an awesome video! Can't wait to see it and can't wait to see you at DSN!

  • @OpportunityFishing
    @OpportunityFishing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed because I dig the content! I haven't played tabletop in over a dozen years, but I love the lore. Just finished Know No Fear by Abnett. Fantastic book!

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for joining us. I loved that book too!

  • @jeremywatson9129
    @jeremywatson9129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, thanks. TH-cam didn't give me the notification on this. Been looking forward to this.

  • @ulfricstormcloak7629
    @ulfricstormcloak7629 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagination and creativity is important. Everyone has their own things they love about something as long as Everybody shares a mutual love for something thats great.

  • @PrimarchMoppel
    @PrimarchMoppel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the idea but I would probably play Hellblasters instead of Heavy Intercessors because Plasma go wooooosh 👉😎👉

    • @ReadersThatWargame
      @ReadersThatWargame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very fair. That is a good alternative