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And Greg stans demanding Greg back refuse to understand that Ben wanted to celebrate 25 years of their groundbreaking album with the original vocalist. The audacity! No? Well stage shows aside, Greg stans certainly refuse to understand that despite all the stuff they made with Greg, Calculating Infinity still clears everything they made with Greg. No? Its legacy>

Lol definitely not, Ben's what made the band, Greg wasnt even there for Calculating Infinity

Lol, no. Just no. I like greg. But this is Ben and Liam's band.

we dont need them, we need Mike Patton

Hahahha, no.

⁠@@northtimo666 Hahaha, yes

Yea cause god forbid we have a negative opinion in today's society. Everything needs to be positive. No negative thoughts cause somebody's feelings might get hurt. Dimitri's performance was boring and he just looked like he had no energy. Hopefully he can do better in the future. Watching his performance in 2017 he was solid but this is not.

You are out of your fucking mind with this comment

@@sacredxgeometry this may be true, but allow me to explain: I don't mean this in a bad way, just that when this album was written DEP were very much still an underground band. This is a visceral, and personal work of art, not at all akin to stadium or festival rock. This was true punk rock, not meant for the masses and the club shows they did in support reflected the energy and intensity of the record. Personal, visceral live shows with no regard for the mainstream. DEP grew and evolved over the years and towards the end of their career, they most certainly leaned into a bigger, arena-like sound and it made their appearances at big festivals feel much more natural and understandable. Now granted, it is unfair to judge based on a poor phone video, and of course this is just speculation, but I think one of the reasons this video is so divisive among fans, is because these songs just don't translate well to a festival/stadium sound. I think the smaller shows will be received more favorably.

@@sacredxgeometry He is right. This music is too chaotic and and all over the place to be put on a bigger stage. This kind of stuff needs intimate feeling and chaos of it.

I do agree. However seeing dillinger at arctangent 2015, which is a similar size stage to this and TDEP were headlining.... that show made me a lifelong fan! Greg was on form and the crowd was electric ​@northtimo666

@@bottlemanic i saw em on a big stage and a small as well. Small was the best way to experience the chaos.

Nah Billy is cooler

@@cc3230 said no one ever

Ben hates his guts tho

I'll be at the one on the 21st in brooklyn w carbomb. Fuck yes

Flying in for the 23rd lmao

Flying in for the 22nd!

Eh it seemed like it was mostly the old heads saying that. Every time someone brought up Dimitri bringing the real intensity it felt like an "okay boomer" moment to me. I think Ben really set Dimitri up for failure with the hired gun interview. Dimitri could sound amazing and this would still be getting criticized because they're two different front men stage presence wise. Still going to support the boys, but I'm expecting nothing to top the adrenaline rush I got at the couple of nights I was at Terminal 5.....and that's okay.

where did you saw that? 99% of the fanbase not only acknowledges Greg being a better a vocalist but also had negative reception to Ben trying to reduce Greg value to the band success lmao "99% of the fanbase" source: "20 people FB group that only loves the first record"

That’s nice but the reality is Dimitri himself chose to leave the band. That wasn’t Ben’s decision. They still wouldn’t have gotten where they did with Dimitri? Sure that’s also nice but barring the fact it was Dimitri’s decision to leave, so it took him 20+ years and no touring to not sound like he did in 2017 and other times he did guest spots with TDEP (he sounded great). But hey…

@@Sevensentai6918 Yeah, but Ben himself has said on multiple occassions that Greg has made his music better. So the change would come sooner or later.

They should get that guy from Better Lovers

@@ObeseChess He has promise and could to justice to Greg era songs for sure.

no bro ben climbed on a speaker they’re crazy contractors

I would love to see where local no name bands where you live because they aren't even close to this quality in Chicago.

Good for you 😴

Thank god Billy has Thoughtcrimes.

I’d rather see Greg do dillinger with Chris pennie than this tbh.

@@theshipoffoolsTHIS!!!

@@rippindrummer666 definitely not TDEP but if you enjoy The Black Queen you'll be happy to know that Chris Pennie has joined the group.

Or they might not, so you can feel free to ignore them and just stick with almighty Greg’s stuff. Nah? Ight

they’re doing calculating infinity reunion shows with the vocalist from calculating infinity but this is a cover band.

@zachmillerdrums I know who Dimitri is... my comment about cover bands was about the quality sounding more like a cover band instead of being the original band who wrote the album. This sounds absolutely horrible.

@zachmillerdrums and I can almost guarantee you the only reason this "reunion" is even happening is it's a fucking money grab!

​@@zachmillerdrumsyou took the words out of my mouth. Yeah it's not a normal dillinger show it's a festival but this was still beautiful and we got Dimitri and Ben. Cover band? Right.

@@scottlauren3145 “hey i love this band who intentionally set out to make the most unlistenable music possible, but they sound really bad here”

🤓🤓

Mike Patton is a zillion times better than Greg Greg live is so more or less

Good for you 😴