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I hated the zf. Zfc was half the weight and when I see more than 700gr I was angry. But, 1 its all metal made to resist and 24mpx is all I need, and it's the only FF with those features, will be beautiful when it becomes old with signs of usage instead plastic bodies. 2 yeah nikon metering is another story, coming from a7III 3 WB 90% manual here not a problem, manual wb is so simple once you uesd to. I keep 5500 fixed most of the time. 4 UT kolari vision mod on nikon does not destroy auto wb (as do with sony) 5 TZM02 works in video mode!! (z6 III Auto WB is really better for what I know if crucial you could verify) I found a Dehancer plugin to infuse analog feeling into pictures (best grain ever!)

Despite the Nokton 35 1.2 sooner or later wil be in my set, because I think is the most beautiful serie 35-40-50, and I prefer have variations in normal focal length instead wide or tele, a lens I'm really keen to, more than the 75 Nokton is the Summicron 90mm F2 v3 or M II or "pre-asph" I suggest you to evaluate (focal length is a priority for me and 75 is not enough and I need only one tele )

many people goes crazy for the sonnar-C 50mm 1.5 zm, not my case, sonnar can be poppy but also ugly out of portrait distsnce

I'd like your opinion about the 21 1.4 Nokton

Thank you! Can you tell something about contax zeiss 50 f 1.4 t* ( ninja blades apperture)

this is so interesting

th-cam.com/video/CiTe9Db3cxs/w-d-xo.html essentially he explain why I sold the 58 and kept the 50

this makes me cry th-cam.com/video/sMK7y9BXQdQ/w-d-xo.html

th-cam.com/video/TZEY9CdRENI/w-d-xo.html This is interesting

Rokkor 40 F2 v2 (no numbers on the front) has it

Z-axis floating autofocus adapter can give not the best image quality when a floating element lens is involved (without prefocusing)

You're a shimmering fountain of insight, analysis, and facts I've never heard before. Your original approaches to your research astound me. Thanks indeed. Some note that your presentation is slow, but I don't mind that at all, given the quality of your knowledge and thought, as you open new worlds to us. I hope to imbibe every video you make. At this early juncture, your channel is a hidden treasure. I hope to watch it grow, so that ever more people can learn your insights and way of thinking. Your work and perceptions are a gift... to us. - Gary

Hey there - Do you perhaps have a list of rather poppy lenses? Maybe even poppy zooms (Really hard to find). Cheers :)

40 1.2 M the tits @ f2 This lens delivers. Glad to see an expert can recognize it. I have also the 50, wich has same design and an abnormal dispersion elenent. I'm looking forward for the 35 1.2, same design but an additional concave front element. Tempted by the 75, but I don't know, did'n convince me, despite a mid tele can be nice to have. Look at the new 7 Artisan 85 autofocus FE Z, you'love it The 40 Classic is wider than the 1.2 is the only reason I'd like it, too contrasty (ok maybe the SC version is less contrasty) also the new 35 1.5, too contrasty but hey @f/2 is superb, exeptional flare resistance, and colors, and so silky oof, but.. no thnx I tried and selling now the 21 3.5 type I The Ultron F2 Type I (incredibile image quality out of this) The 40 1.2 M got me. I'selling the rest of lenses I have, but a couple of 50. Mr Ding 50 1.1 also is interesting in v2, I have one, try it. LLL is working on a 11873 replica, double asperical has many group as you like it (also too much field curvature) I think Ill convert my sensor for that thin stack feature medium.com/rokkorxblog/sony-a7rii-a7riii-a7iii-thin-filter-mod-d854c63fb1a0 Nice channel you have!

I'm selling my 58SL for the Nokton 50 M, don't like the paintellery at all, and is too soft.

I love the host's rigor, thought and use of science. This channel and Camera Mystique are unique non- commercial channels that provide unique critical insights into photography.

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Wow! Do you, perhaps, have a large list of all lenses that are more on the poppy side?

Exsactly right! I have many old lenses that give character, and my Sony 24-70 GM gives me petfect sharp bland images. Good for events, but no exitement!

@CameraMystique thoughts? Interesting contents, your presentation would benefit from adobe premiere's fill word filter

The main considerations for me are maximum contrast, lowest spherical and chromatic aberrations, High sharpness and micro-contrast (which are related to aforementioned aberrations) and a flat focal plane. Oh and low coma and astigmatism off-axis. Some of the older slower macro lenses achieve this without many elements or more than 1 ED element. Samyang's 135mm f2 is outstanding stopped down a tiny bit. Nikon's old 60mm f2.8 af-d macro achieves it stopped down.

I've done a few attempts at testing lenses and keep screwing up but I think the kinks have been worked out and the next round should be more successful. You'll soon have more data to investigate if you want it :P

Another great video on the topic! You mentioned the Voigtlander 40mm 1.4 classic is very poppy, how do you think it compares with the Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 nokton for Z mount? I'm leaning towards the native Z mount as the MF assist with the Nikon ZF is quite nice and it does require electronic contacts on the lens.

Very informative. The way everything is explained, so softly and patiently is adorable. Thank you.

He's the 3D pop detective we didn't know we needed :)

15:46 "abrupt transition from shadows to highlights" You are talking about contrast. I know of no lens (and I own several dozen lenses, from the latest and vintage) that can "abruptly" tone map the luminance of a scene into a high contrast image. Lenses that have poor coatings, prone to flaring, or have dirt, mold or oil residue or are badly scuffed will certainly reduce the contrast by raising the shadows (gamma). The problem here is there is no formal recognition of "3D pop" in optical engineering; this is the language of lay people. Even the term "subject separation", which likely means more to most people, is purely a subjective characterization of a 2D image. I looked at a few of your photos in Part 10, and none of them look 3D or "poppy" to me. Furthermore, attempting to correlate optical arrangement, # elements, # LD elements, to a rather nebulous evaluation criteria (subjective), especially when you consider focal length, aperture, subject and background distances and lighting, sounds like pseudo-science. At the very least, the test method would have to be better defined and conducted as a double-blind.

Very interesting. I’m learning a lot from you sharing your knowledge. Thank you! A question: I recall thoriated glass achieves relatively low dispersion and a high refractive index. Is that correct? Do you consider the thoriated vintage lenses demonstrate 3D pop qualities? I really like the images produced by those lenses. The TH-cam channel called ‘Simon’s Utak’ is a great source of information on those thoriated and other vintage lenses.

I wish you could take a look at the voigtlander 55mm f1.2 for nikon f. Reviews seem to imply it's similar to the 58mm but worse, but all the images i see seem almost more pleasing..

Samyang XP 85mm f/1.2 and Samyang XP 50mm f/1.2 both have wonderful rendering and pop, and do not have any LD elements whatsoever.

Keep up the good work.

is ED glass equilvalemt to anomalous partial dispersion glass ? I found that these glass are often present in voigtlander and zeiss glass, while nikon with ED glass

Shaul, empirically or theoretically, is there a "poppy" 35mm Nikkor, ideally AF, in either F or Z? Thank you

I see a relation between low count of lens groups and 3d pop in my experience, and I see it works for your examples aswell. What do you think? I thought I heard you say its the other way 😅

Great video. I feel the voightlander 50mm f2 apo has decent 3d pop but the 35mm f2 apo not so much

I’m a woman, and have noticed that I’m the only one who shows up for camera gear reviews :-) One thing I’ve noticed is that I’m a bit of a tomboy and always have been, (although I love clothes and decorating!)

Hey! Do you racomend any MFT lenses in this category? Thanks!!

Microlenses on the sensors have been improved over the years to minimize the issues from non-perpendicular light falling on them. Before mass use of smartphone pocketable cameras used lenses not much larger than the sensors I still have a Fuji f70exr from 2007 with small fixed telescopic lens 28-300mm f3.3-5.6. It has a great lens for that size, zoom range and year with 3d pop. So disappointed I can't remove it and use it on a newer camera.

I suspected something like this was the case. Been searching for so many years for a detailed technical explanation without the need to read an optical lens design book heavy in the weeds of mathematical explanation. Thank You so much. Also until very good glass coatings the number of lens elements was limited as too much light was lost by the reflection of each element. This probably limited the use of low dispersion glass due to the need for other corrective elements. I also wonder if newer designs because of coatings are using several low curvature elements instead of one high curvature element which is more costly to manufacture.

this is very interesting - its an unusual insight and I really appreciate hearing it - a lot to consider here - Thank you !

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I suspect that simpler lens designs will produce better micro contrast and it is this that determines the "3D pop" in an image. Modern designs are typically much more complex than vintage designs, with the ideal of limiting image artefacts. I also suspect that modern photographers value sharpness more than pop. Lastly, coatings on vintage lenses are typically very bad in direct comparison to coatings on modern lens designs. I guess it comes down to what you value.

My great grandfather was a caveman and he used tools to hunt and capture animals to survive so now I use a more sophistic tool (the camera) to capture images. Where as women catch men with their beauty, no need for a camera. We just use different tools.

Came expecting a sexist opinon regarding camera gear somehow, stayed because of your interesting reflection on that matter. Great content, greetings from Spain!

What do you think about Lumix S Pro lineup? I love Lumix fullframe and I feel like the s pro 50mm 1.4 and 16-35 f4 are really good. Any experience with l mount glass?

Males are more nostalgic.

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

Its all about rendition and the older design lens ,right back to the 60's have it .I have restored hundreds of lenses and tested them against all this ed apo glass To be honest the longer telephoto lenses do benifit from apo and ed but only in low count .I remember using Kowa lenses at a wedding for the fun of it .The pro photographer was stunned when i showed him my large prints .He used this modern gear with as you say high lens element count and a hasselblad camera ,Unfortunatly Kowa went bust as they put more emphasises on high quality glass than Marketing hype as did european lens and camere companys .But now we know japanees lenses and indeed the good european ones are outsourced to Cosina It is also true for the latest glass for hasselblad which was outsourced to fujinon . Marketing Fluff will always outperform genuine lens manufacturers who either went bust or got a hold on good brand name and got expensieve to survive in a consumer market . If you doubt this guy pop a nikon 28f2.8 ai-s lens on an adaptor take a shot use the same settings an an af-s28f1.8 ed nikkor .Compare all results and sell that wonderful ed lens .

Why do i not see many more people watching your videos? You have much good advise and knowledge to pass along. So very happy to have found you.

Do you have side by side photos taken with these lenses with pop and those without?

I've known about absolute aperture for a long time but have never heard anyone talk about it in a practical sense. I just had a lightbulb moment. Good stuff!