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No need to do that, be patient. It took me several days of attempts for my first kill. You need to put in the time to learn the fight by heart so you know all your openings. Remember that to hit the check element is key which means you need to land more attacks and not necessarily stronger attacks. Learn combos that deal the highest elemental damage and remember to aim for the front legs which take the most elemental damage. I suggest making sure you know the fight by doing at least one run in which you do not attack but simply avoid getting hit whilst staying in attack range(do not run away) so you can learn not only how to read and avoid all his attacks but also how long you have during each opening. Pay attention to sound cues, animation cues, which moves he likes to combo and how long each move takes him to complete before starting his next one. Like all monsters he'll typically only use moves that can hit you in your current position or he'll reposition to get a better aim. You can usually know what move he's going to use based on what could hit you currently or what could hit you from his new position. Bringing the cat will complicate this but your cat helps with damage. If you can avoid getting hit entirely by the time he does his judgement then you should have learned a lot. Also remember that hitting him twice during your openings will double your elemental damage output, it seems obvious but double damage means half as many required hits which is massive.

@@phenixryte23 Hi. Thank you for the suggestions and tips on how to fight or at least get ready for the fight. I will try these, and best the beast hopefully

If you don't mind sharing, what build and weapon are you using?

@@painsenpai01 currently using rajang helm, garuga boots, three piece teo. Max crit, crit boost, tenderizer, 6 ice attack, 3 hp boost. With ff barioth swaxe. Just augmented it with hp leech and one element. Will upgrade the slots and add another element upgrade.

well, imnot defending asmon, I dont even watch him. But im pretty tired of this "meta" mentality that make people think they are good. Easily, 90% of the people talking shit didnt even TRY to solo alatreon, they just did it when they could outgear the match after being carried through it. Whatever he lacked on his run, which are alot, he compensated with gameplay... something build andies couldnt understand...

@@Mckudenomg i dont know if you project that elitism onto me but its a big difference to be open minded and to learn the tools the game offers VS demanding some kind of meta build of him. If you didnt watch him your input here is totally out of place anyway. Basically people tried to be nice and also respecting him not wanting to get spoiled. Yet he was heavily annoyed when people hinted on him using tackle for his GS gameplay. I soloed alatreon when he came out. 51 tries for the first kill. I played 1,2k hours and i used optimized builds that i build alone but obviously i wasnt a speed runner who went 100% dps. His gameplay was poor because he was too caught up not taking any advice (even advice the game gives you) and proceeded due to having partially too good gear at some points and non stop chugging potions. I have no problem if you arnt the best player but someone so stubborn to learn and use the tools the game gives you while being arrogant and aggressive towards his viewers is despiseful. Dont bring you problem into a conversation that is not revolving around what you speak off. Im a pretty nice guy to play with and be around but his behaviour pissed me off and i explained why.

@@Corey91666 he is not necessarily narrow minded, he just wants to play the game as he is discovering it, almost blind basically and he doesnt like people telling him what to do. TBH I started MHW right after him and I’m up to Alatreon too and he pretty much did better than me most of the game(like Raging Brachy took me 3 tries solo and he did it on 2, Furious Rajan took me 2 tries he did it first time etc), as a new player there are so many mechanics that I dont know about or struggle to learn along with other things(only worked out how to do Wallbangs post Iceborne, I didnt know the keybinds for it on PC lol). Stuff like crafting via hotkey is still something I’m trying to figure out how to do on MnK despite being at Alatreon.

@@oksobasically3278 the amount of tries does not necessarily indicate who is better. MB he grinded more to max out his defense. You can go all defense and win every Encounter first try but if it takes you 1 try of 35 min getting thrashed or 3 tries were you use better gameplay but mb get 2 shotted due to having defensive shortcomings in your build then you still have better gameplay. Regarding playing blind. I 100% understand if you want to do that but why have chat live then if you want to go blind? He still got alot of advice if you believe it or Not. He still asked chat about stuff. Things you probably didnt do. He IS narrow minded. He reached an age and level of self awarness were he has his reality build. He knows how things work in his world. Im 33 years old and for the most part i consider myself knowing about life too. Whats good and Bad and how things work in life. Why people behave certain ways etc. But in regards to MH he is a noob with very low dignity as its normal to learn about the Games features after even quite some hours. Its arrogant to believe he knows how the game rolls and how it should be. Even I after 1200 hours in mhwib am a noob in comparism to very dedicated MH players. I am decent. I have seen almost everything in the game etc. but even i can still learn alot if i would dare to play more. However, currently i consider myself done with mh and i had a great time with it and learned alot.

That's incorrect, Asmon used Evasion Charm 3 in his original attempts seen here - th-cam.com/video/7JV-kvckb9E/w-d-xo.html

@@phenixryte23 If you are talking about his original attempt then it would be using Lighbreaker which would be stupid i know, but that is his original build. He did 3 builds there tho, and he sticks the longest with the Blight resistance one so i don't think it's fair to call a one run his 'build' even thought he runs with the other build more.

I understand. I've rewatched the vid several times and I tear myself apart for every obvious mistake and the overall inefficient strategy. This is far from my best performance.

@@phenixryte23 it's not even that, it's more so I wanna tell you your build is shit but it's in the title, it isn't your build 🤣

it's 100% a skill issue LOL

Thanks, it was definitely sloppy compared to my usual Alatreon runs but my intent wasn't to show off, just see if it was possible for the average player and hopefully give a little encouragement to anyone who sees it.

to be honest you can brute force alatreon by just kiling him before you cart 3 times

Well this aged like milk

​@@Red_Lake hahahahaha I know right. Guy ended up beating alatreon lmao

@@MysticGohan01 fatalis next baby and all without clutch claw wall bangs

His build is pretty awful, so reliant on tanking hits with divine blessing and health boost rather than trying to learn the fight and beat the dps check

I'm bad at Greatsword.

@@phenixryte23 Ah got it. For what it's worth, I think you did alright in this vid

Neither does the one I use. You can see it's un-augmented when I display my equipment at the start and end of the video.

my bad i thought you have an health augment coz you gain health after each hit. @@phenixryte23

my bad i think it was the first run coz you gain health every hit. the final run does not. @@phenixryte23

He returned already and tried Safi'jiiva for the first time

he returned already & beat the alatreon solo yesterday

The point is that Asmon has been taking insanely suboptimal builds into this fight and has come up against a total brick wall (he's been bruteforcing everything in the game with bad builds but has not been able to brute force Ala). Even after replacing the build shown in this video with a better one, he's still been unable to beat Ala. This guy just wanted to show that you CAN beat Alatreon with one of the worst builds Asmon has been using to fight it, you just have to play better and actually understand the game mechanics.

Streaming doesnt stop person from getting good. Its Asmons choice to rush and avoid learning. If he stopped to engage with chat on builds and stats it would still be a good content. Same as practicing moves adviced by chat. But he bans those who give him the most basic tips he refuses to learn. How long it took him to use flash pods, flashflies or vigorwasps?! 🤦‍♀️

Velk GS is fine with ice attack boost but don't think asmon never had that. He's using barioth now and got really close though.

He probably heard Velkana Frostcraft GS and assumed they meant you needed its actual sword

Respect him? Sure he didnt use other players to cary him... he just gave up after like 3 tries. No rethinking build, no looking into armory for better skills, no TCS on sleeping monster, no flashpods. Basically no trying. I am absolutelly shocked that he is a souls boy with this kind of attitude towards imrovement and learning the game (including basics)

@@herenaakuma85 None of what you said is even close to how he is playing. He's had like 3 different streams totaling more than 6 hours of attempt with each stream improving and changing gear accordingly. Even 4 days ago he's done a stream and while his build might not be perfect it's still frostfang gs + frostcraft which I find one of the best matchup for alatreon. Yes, he is a slow learner but the way you put it sounds nothing like how he is approaching the game right now.

@@bliss6417 oh, so he crawled back. Good. Last time i was recomended his MH video was when he barely got introduced to Ala, still didnt use TCS on sleeping boss, tried 3 times where one was with r. brachy stuff and gave up saying "i dont think i'll try him again. Its too hard". He sounded straight up bored, annoyed and unmotivated to continue

​@@herenaakuma85 Most people that talk like you got carried through alatreon and just tried solo when they could outgear the fight and going full build andy. I dont even watch his stream, but he totally deserve respect for what he achieved. Any gamer that is not brain rotten by the "meta" mentality understand.

@@Mckudenomg nah. I didnt beat Ala yet (at least the real/ stronger one). My first save got demaged when i got to black dragons and barely touched him as i didnt have elemental weapons (im a child of blas) and i just got back to him. I refuse to use black dragon gear on Ala until i beat him... ALONE. I also dont join or SOS anyone. I always went with "first kill must be just mine" (with rare excepions loke R brachy, F Rajang or Fatty that i go for with only my friend first) I never seen him as impossible, most of his moves are slight redisigns of all previous monsters from Worldborn. Going first time into his fight i felt fairly familiar with him. He just forces player into elemental builds and to learn how to avoid his attacks while also being close enought to go back to attacking, becouse DPS check. I've already killed weaker Ala first try (after 3 tries on stronger Ala, it was so brittle in comparison to stronger one it made me laugh) and now on stronger Im already breaking his element and horns regularly and it was maybe like 6 attempts. I use IG from FF Barioth and Glavenus + armor including azure era parts for that silver rathalos blessing. It took me 2 or 3 hunts to craft it. Mind that I am no veteran of MH. Worldborn was my first MH game. The thing is that thru out the game i would learn new stuff that i encountered. I learned about feeding kinsect like in half way thru iceborn and learned it gladly as its easy way to raise dmg and stam on a bug. Meanwhile Asmon came to Ala still unable to use TCS or many other usefull basic things and said "he's too hard". Ala is perfect post end-game elder as it perfectly encapsules everything from the entire game and tries skills of hunters. Those who dont pay attention (like Asmon) or run on the backs of others will see him stupidly hard or even impossible, those who paid attention will see him as doable even if it means failing 8-12 times and building new sets Update edit: I just killed stronger Ala. It took me 40min and 3 carts (with safeguard) and it was around 10-12 try but those last 3 tries were fun. Avoiding Ala in the air with IG is so cool 🤩 I'll take Ala IG to Fatty. I already have it fully upgraded, just no augments but its still fantastic weapon :3

15% aff

​@@caperocker6269 yeah crit element wouldn't have helped lol

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hello feet. nice seeing you here. ahahahahaha

@@kurisupipatata3486 wassup

@@TwistedFeetMH nothing much. btw. *whispers* "never change, feet"

Might be a joke but itd be pretty silly to also intentionally play badly when youre already intentionally bringing shit gear 😂

Does having the same build as Asmon mean you have to play how he played?

@@sakuranohana1014 I guess not. You wouldn't beat Alatreon that way.

@@sakuranohana1014 well that depends on the purpose of this video

i think u should run the safi gs because with the kjarr gs it gives u crit element fro free but if ur planning to run frostcraft with velk u would already have crit element from the 2 piece velk bonus so better to run it with a ice safi gs with elemental upgrades. use 4 piece velk and maybe 1 good piece of raging brachy for the extra agitator or maybe frostfang for the punishing draw and 2 points of crit eye for the charms use a max upg frost charm and make sure u have max hp boost and 2 or 3 points into evade window. make sure u have lvl 6 ice atk btw the frost charm doesn't give u max ice atk edit: coalescence is also very good so make sure to use all the velk pieces with it, for more comfort put 2 points of blight resist so u can still proc coalescence, if not just use null berries and don't forget to eat for safeguard ( there are videos to teach you how to get the safeguard meal, u need to use a gourmet voucher to have 100 percent chance of procing safeguard )

My only major advice is that all GS attacks (as with every weapon) do the same amount of elemental damage, your strongest and weakest are identical in terms of element so when in the fire/ice phase you should prioritize getting more hits rather than big hits. Don't bother charging and just try to combo the front legs until you get that first knockdown then maximize damage on the head. Repeat.

Arms on 1st phase, Head on 2nd phase.

Get blight resistance level 2 or 3 if you don't want to eat mulberries. Note that level two will only reduce the duration of the blight

Instead of crippling your build with this elemental trash you can just embrace the unga bunga life, go full raw with the Raging Brachy GS and bigdick him. You will cart every time he does Escaton, but its fine as long as you don't cart to his regular attacks. If you have enough DPS to kill him before he does 3 Escatons (or 4 if you eat for Safeguard or Insurance) you win.

I think the video is explicitly "if I were asmongold, and I had nothing but what he was provided, then would I manage against Alatreon?" Asmongold being really careless and only operating on a low skill level will always make asmon disadvantaged. And while yes you cmget throw into the quest, you can still manage wallbangs when you're experienced in using them, which Asmon never did

wtf is blud yapping about?

The dickeating is crazy

Doesn't that quest also has Alatreon's life reduced by like 50%? Significantly easier.

​@elcugo no, you're mistaking it for another special assignment "dawn's triumph" - quest to unlock fatalis(dont even have to kill real alatreon). It has 1/5 hp alatreon.

Haha exactly

i know what you mean. LOL.. keep in mind asmond has probably only watched a couple of MHW videos on how to use the GS and also he only alot of times he's playing the game like its VANILLA MHW. - no clutch claw and wall bang.

@@LazyPixcell Wall banging alatreon is difficult tho, there's barely any wall in the stage T_T

@@dhanyl2725 i know but there are 2 spots in the area, just have to be mindful when alatreon is near it and not enranged. also he can be knocked out of the sky with slinger bust on clutch claw to the face.

So, running around chugging mega potions is a build?isn't that a play style?

he is a casual player who streams almost everyday, playing (currently) some other games as well. You really expect everyone to grind this game for 200+ hours? I'm certain he doesn't even know frostfang barioth because the game doesn't tell shit about it being in the game or its weapons.

he hadnt unlocked frostfang yet mate

@@IH4teMyS3lfFrostfang gear is available to make as soon as you as you discover the guiding lands since it's an MR24 event quest that's always available so yes he has it unlocked. He's just lazy af and didn't wanna go out of the way for it because making mediocre gear and pretending it's fine was easier for him.

I think part of the problem is that the game doesn’t lock alatreon behind a higher MR, so he hasn’t spent the time to get augments and such. However, he also sees people in chat suggesting things like Frostfang GS and health augment and just goes “well I don’t know what that is” and doesn’t stop to think that he should actually learn what they are instead of ignoring them

He still doesn't know how to wall bang and tenderize. He's done with MHW. Let's move on.

I only bring mega and max because the goal is to not get hit. it's worked so far

@@tyrant3191 idk how far you are, but having the right items for the situation can make a big difference if you are struggling. Especially with alatreon, bringing combo materials for more max potions allows you to waste much less time healing, which is important to get the elemental topples (in this vid you can see they always go for a max potion to heal, and it easily could have been the difference that got them one elemental topple). If you like doing high dps, wasting less time healing = more time hitting the monster bc you will always get hit no matter how hard you try

@@SpunkyPotato987 that's what health augment is for, get hit then just TCS yourself back to full and don't get hit again. I get what you mean, but similar to asmon I don't like using resources in games because that anxiety they create with the potential of running out when you REALLY need them, even if that time never comes and you end the game with 9999 of every ingredient. I'd rather fail a hunt 10 times learning the monsters pattern than to use all my resources on potentially finishing one hunt when there are hundreds more to go. That way, on the 11th time, I don't need anything aside from the required to survive alatreons nuke

But the botanist auto generates resources...@@tyrant3191

@@tyrant3191 you won't run out. trust me. if you are getting resources with the intent of using them you might even end up with overkill. late game, you will have infinite of every resource because you will be able to get more than you use. no need to be frugal, especially in times when you need it.

I just hope he gets that far. Thank you!

He already quit. He doesn't have the patience to grind and prepare for one fight. He'd rather play other games and he is doing that already. Let's just wait for him in MH wilds.

​@@josefernandez4423 he might return to the game, but we'll never know. if palworld didn't show up on his radar he still give it a try.

@@LazyPixcell Nah, he's done with it. Same thing happened with FFXIV, except this time he got filtered.

​@@josefernandez4423nope he just play the game again and build a new gear