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Welcome to The Two Testaments podcast, a guided journey through Scripture with leading experts on the Bible, hosted by Rony Kozman and Will Kynes.
We interview scholars to discuss the meanings of verses, passages, and books of the Bible. Think of us as an audio Bible commentary-but more exciting!-where you get to hear scholars and practitioners trying to make sense of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures.
This podcast is for all students of the Bible-pastors, Bible teachers, ministry leaders, students, and all who are curious about the Bible.
We interview scholars to discuss the meanings of verses, passages, and books of the Bible. Think of us as an audio Bible commentary-but more exciting!-where you get to hear scholars and practitioners trying to make sense of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures.
This podcast is for all students of the Bible-pastors, Bible teachers, ministry leaders, students, and all who are curious about the Bible.
Revelation 21-22 (The New Heavens and the New Earth) with Jonathan Moo
Dr. Jonathan Moo (Whitworth University) guides us through Revelation 21-22. We discuss:
- The importance of judgment preceding the new heavens and earth (20:10-15)
- The continuity and the discontinuity between first earth and the new heavens and earth (21:5)
- Why there is no sea in the new heavens and earth (21:1)
- The repeated identification of things that in the new heavens and new earth are, “no more.”
- The first and second death, why some people are excluded from the new heavens and earth, and the contrasting life to which John calls his audience (21:7-8, 27; 22:14-15)
- The architecture of the new Jerusalem (22:9-22)
- The lamb’s book of life and how one finds their name written in there (21:27)
- The river of the water of life, and the tree of life (22:1-2)
- The name on the foreheads (22:4)
- The repeated emphasis on Jesus coming (22:7, 12, 16-17, 20)
- Why not seal up the prophecy? (22:10)
- Why should the evil doer still do evil? (22:11)
- What it means to neither add to nor subtract from the words of the prophecy? (22:18-19)
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Works by Dr. Jonathan Moo:
- "Fourth Ezra and Revelation 21:1-22:5: Paradise City." In Reading Revelation in Context: John's Apocalypse and Second Temple Judaism. Edited by B. C. Blackwell et al. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2019
- Creation, Nature, and Hope in 4 Ezra. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 2011.
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Dr. Jonathan Moo recommends:
- Roderick Beaton, The Greeks: A Global History. Basic Books, 2021
- Practicing not being on media first thing in the morning, but rather in Scripture and prayer.
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The Two Testaments takes you on a guided journey through Scripture with leading experts on the Bible, hosted by Rony Kozman and Will Kynes
Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, access all episodes, and meet our guides through Scripture. Sign up now so you don’t miss an episode.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.
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This episode is co-sponsored by Samford University and the Alabama Humanities Alliance, a state affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Any views, findings, conclusions or recommendations expressed in this episode do not necessarily represent those of the Alabama Humanities Alliance, the National Endowment for the Humanities or Samford University.
- The importance of judgment preceding the new heavens and earth (20:10-15)
- The continuity and the discontinuity between first earth and the new heavens and earth (21:5)
- Why there is no sea in the new heavens and earth (21:1)
- The repeated identification of things that in the new heavens and new earth are, “no more.”
- The first and second death, why some people are excluded from the new heavens and earth, and the contrasting life to which John calls his audience (21:7-8, 27; 22:14-15)
- The architecture of the new Jerusalem (22:9-22)
- The lamb’s book of life and how one finds their name written in there (21:27)
- The river of the water of life, and the tree of life (22:1-2)
- The name on the foreheads (22:4)
- The repeated emphasis on Jesus coming (22:7, 12, 16-17, 20)
- Why not seal up the prophecy? (22:10)
- Why should the evil doer still do evil? (22:11)
- What it means to neither add to nor subtract from the words of the prophecy? (22:18-19)
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Works by Dr. Jonathan Moo:
- "Fourth Ezra and Revelation 21:1-22:5: Paradise City." In Reading Revelation in Context: John's Apocalypse and Second Temple Judaism. Edited by B. C. Blackwell et al. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2019
- Creation, Nature, and Hope in 4 Ezra. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 2011.
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Dr. Jonathan Moo recommends:
- Roderick Beaton, The Greeks: A Global History. Basic Books, 2021
- Practicing not being on media first thing in the morning, but rather in Scripture and prayer.
--
Subscribe and don't miss an episode
The Two Testaments takes you on a guided journey through Scripture with leading experts on the Bible, hosted by Rony Kozman and Will Kynes
Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, access all episodes, and meet our guides through Scripture. Sign up now so you don’t miss an episode.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.
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This episode is co-sponsored by Samford University and the Alabama Humanities Alliance, a state affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities. Any views, findings, conclusions or recommendations expressed in this episode do not necessarily represent those of the Alabama Humanities Alliance, the National Endowment for the Humanities or Samford University.
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Matthew 20:29-23:39 with Amy-Jill Levine
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Matthew 20:29-23:39 with Amy-Jill Levine
Is there a greater arrogance than expressing you have some sort of relationship with a deity? Question: How can you possibly take faith seriously? How can anyone in their right mind ask others to believe in the existence of a Deity who makes Mormons so Christians will know how Jews feel, having had their literature hijacked. Nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital & indoctrinating children is criminal. The faith vocabulary causes the user to be avoided like the old woman with too many cats. Faith "comes not with peace, but sword." Faith comes with wolves dressed as sheep & preaching to the choir. Faith trades the last cow for a pocketful of magic beans & then expects everyone's appreciation. Jesus said, it is a wicked generations which seeks signs such as resurrection. Faith is as worthless as fantasyland magic, since you can't tell mountains to move. The "only sign given" in reality "is Jonah": A believer murdered by other believers because he is outnumbered. The context is Jesus seeing a gathering crowd. It is up to us, to reject religious nonsense.
It is astounding, how the Christ fantasy ignores Jesus saying, "This is a wicked generation seeking signs, the only sign given is Jonah," a believer murdered by a larger number of believers. The King of the Jews is mounted on a stick, because Romans made a parody of the avatar, the icon. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13
What if Malachi means, "angel of God?"
Circumcision doesn’t make you love your neighbor more
Yes God is the root but men often forget this and seeking to establish their righteousness they confuse God with themselves because after all WE were commanded to obey.
Salvation begins with faith, not works, and is followed by works if the faith is sincere. That’s good, “Good works are the fruit, not the root of salvation.”
You are justified by faith and your faith is justified, proven, by works.
It is not about sound economic or environmental practuces. Not at all. Its about obedience to the word and the WILL of THE LORD. Thats what tge entire Tenach is all about.
His hybrid view is confusing.
bit of an interesting episode. I think there are key hermeneutical differences with how O’Brien takes the text versus many religious people. I understand her frustration with those that read modern concepts into ancient texts, but I think she has too much of an all-or-nothing view that disposes the text as ancient without any real modern application.
Very thought provoking. I followed along in my Bible and took notes to look over and ponder later.
Let us not mix God and science. Let us not be double minded. We either serve God or the world. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. John 1:14 the word of God since the beginning is the truth and the life.For man shall not live by bread alone. (John 3:31)Climate change is a scam. Propaganda repeated by media and world leaders until people beleive it. Let us also not try to interprete the word of the Almighty to our liking. Genesis 1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. He did not create mercury and venus that's science lies that originated from ancient paganism. And God said let there be lights(sun, moon, stars) in the firmament. Mathew 5:45God rises the sun everyday since the beginning like clockwork in exception of one day during Joshua's time when it was paused for a few hours. No man or machine has ever been out of the earth, neither has anyone ever been to the moon. God created all that we see for a purpose, let us remember and hold on to ours. Gen 2:24. The wife of your youth is that girl whom you broke her virginity in ur youthful days. At that moment God was witness and recorded it to be that that is your wife by covenant. All this other things we call dating etc is recorded as prostitution/fornication with extra steps. Mostly this is for Israelites coz they are the ones who had the law. Malachi 3:1 talks of 3 comings/appearances. It talks of the messenger to be sent to make straight the way, fulfilled and recorded in(John 1:23 Luke 7 :27)It talks about the LORD whom everyone seeks. That is yeshua (Jesus)(the word) he came to His temple immediately in that time. Then finally the messenger of the covenants whom the jews delight in, this is who we are waiting for now, (prophesied in Isaiah 11)he could appear anytime now because he is already born. But who may abide of his coming? For it is judgment day. Only those who love and fear our creator will survive. Those who follow God's commandments and keep the teachings of Jesus.Mathew 5:19,20. Luke6:46-49. 1John 2:17. I would like to urge those who read this to read the Bible for themselves for people interprete the Bible to the understanding of their liking(pastors included)(Mathew 11:25) . God the everlasting King gave a decree for all of us to be conceived in our mothers wombs, He knows all of us and He knows that we are all capable of understanding His Word. We do not need to go to any class for that. He has given us free will. And He wants us to seek Him out of our own free will (John 4:23,24). All glory, thanks and praise go's to our Father in heaven.
Thanks very much. I happened to pick up a book by John Tayman "The Colony: The Harrowing True Story of the Exiles of Molokai" just yesterday, and am not sure about the Eponym. Molochai? Moloch? Murloch? Molochii? This is a history of "Hawaii" - which was cruel to the indigenous people. Howoii? Homoai? I'm worried about these language features. I just learned, yesterday, that Dionysii was not Dionysius, but Dennis. Actually, I'm wondering if that was a specific usage of Dionysii - because I caught it while paging through a book on an old chapel. I'm seeing that it was specific to Paris.
Personally, I’m an atheist, but I love listening to ppl like Dr. Allison because they’re refreshing from many of the ill trained apologists from places like Biola or DTS (I mention these two as examples as imo they don’t foster a critical environment by only accepting ppl who agree with the colleges views) where not much of scrutiny or evaluation is put into the texts of the gospels. Overall, love this talk and even tho I disagree with some things it’s always good to hear an awesome discussion.
I’ve listened to this three or four times and it’s always so good! And I’ve listened to Brent’s sermon at Asbury, Is God always anything? a couple of times as well. Absolutely one of the best sermons ever!
So good!
One of the best ever of your podcasts! I learned in that humbling, broadening way in which Scripture changes us, realizing that I need to give my adult son the benefit of the doubt in his life of suffering, not judging him like Job’s friends do. Vesely’s book must be fabulous! If only it didn’t cost nearly $100!
Excellent video about the book of Nahum, dealing with topics as diverse as God's judgment, Assyrian warfare, and how hope can come from dealing with life's difficulties.
Nothing about Matthew’s memory, relationship or accuracy in relation to Jesus
'A reception beyond his immediate circle.' Little did he know...
Tip top stuff 👌
What an excellent interview 😮. I didn’t know what to expect but it was powerful. Thank you!
Juan is one of the Best.
I love this brilliant woman and Andrew Peterson is great!
After reading 1 & 2 Thessalonians by Dr. Jeffrey (Baker Exegetical Commentary series), I had purchased his Sermons to the Churches in Revelation. Both of these commentaries are mind blowing. So accurate, faithful exegesis, and easy to grasp. Thank you Dr. Jeffrey. I am looking forward to an exegetical commentary on the entire book of Revelation. ❤
I love the variety of scholars you have. Excellent in every way! ✝️❤️🙏🏻
Loved this conversation
Wow, the insight that Dr. Allison has and has shared with us! Much appreciated and thank you for this informative upload! Blessings from Pittsburgh! ☦☦☦
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder if Paul’s statement about filling up in his body the suffering that is lacking in the body of Christ might be relevant?
Like Amy-Jill Levine, Matthew is arguing from the impermeable boundaries of the School of Shammas while Jesus is proceeding on the basis that the Law of Moses is a rough draft and editing the law within the expansive and inclusive horizons of the School of Philo of Alexandria. Christian doctrine proceeds on the basis of the KISS principle and begins by simplifying the Jewish theory of sin with Mark 3:28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin. Then he abrogates all the dietary laws with Mark 7:19 and reduces the 613 laws of the Mishna to the decomposition of the Shema to be four square with the Earth with the inclusion of Plato with the other dimensions of the Prayer. Unlike the Gospel of Mark, which was written by Cornelius as a work of straight forward military journalism t for consumption up his chain of command with Theophilus, The Gospel of Matthew is a polemic that connects all the dots of Jewish theology exposed in Mark as a rebuttal to Galatians, and in support of the Judaizing of Peter and James. Matthew like likewise introduces Plato into the Shema but retains the 3 legged stool construction of Deuteronomy 6:6 by losing "strength" in the construction, As far as I know, Jews stil use the 3 legged stool of Deuteronomy when they cover their eyes in the morning, That's the Shammai School of Jewish exclusivity. ' It would probably serve the discussion to consider the fact that the current Hamas-Likud axis can be reliably taced back to a time with David was cutting off 100 uncircumcised dicks from gentile neighbors for a wedding dowry of 100 foreskins, Within the Shammai school of Jewish righteousness, that's a fun story of anointed hijinks and what was expected of a hard charging, kick ass and take naves Messiah, Even John the Baptists expected Jesus to be like Mohammad, Jesus was like Josephus: He had no argument with Pax Romana. Like Jonah, Jesus had come to prevent the coming Apocalypses being fomented by the Zealots by diverting Israel from the dead-end vertical trajectory of Eschatology and back onto the horizontal trajectory of the infinite horizons of Genesis 15:5, It turns out the Italian Regiment of the Roman Republic was already headed in that direct, which is why the Jewish god conducted a unilateral covenant cutting ceremony with the Romans once Jesus was split and ratified with the Talking Cross. The Gospels are a play ground of the Holy Spirit, When you start with Pilate's lost euangelion as the bow string, the 3 + 1 gestalt of the Gospels is a common figure of all the scriptures and are the feathers on the arrow Pilate's lost euangelion launched and Acts is the shaft of the arrow and the 13 Epistles of Paul, with beings with the 624 verses of Romans and ends with the 25 verses of Philemon that is shot directly at Hebrews, which is the manifesto of the secret Roman Christian fellowship of the Italian Regiment which ultimately produces the Apostles Creed, the perfect soldiers confession of the Roman God Fearers, who were God Fearers before they knew anything about Moses or Abraham or the parting of the Red Sea. Everything the Roman soldiers needed to embrace Christianity was conveyed by the bread and wind of Melchizedek and Jesus and the justification by faith of Cornelius in Matthew 8:5 - 13 that was ratified by the Talking Cross of the lost euangelion of Pilate. , In the final analysis, the four Gospels, Acts and the Epistles are a partial bibliography of the research in Judea for the composition of Hebrews by Theophilus in Rome. For all intents and purposes, Cornelius is Quelle and the common denominator for the Gospels and Acts and Pilate's lost euangelion is cited 19 times in Paul's Epistles as the basis of his theology, If Amy-Jill Levine was far less diligent about being comic relief for James Tabor and the Jesus Seminar as the Phyllis Diller of Comparative Theology, she might come to realize that N/T. Wright's characterization of Paul's theology is superior to the dialectical Marxism of the Jesus Seminar. She is more right than wrong about the entire Bible being about becoming a person, but her self=inflicted confinement to the Shammai ethic posits Israel as another day in Paradise and the universe of the Gentiles as bad karma, Even Hillel was willing to share the stunted Jewish ontology with the unclean
Always love listening to Dr. Sandra. So knowledgeable on her subject!
Flourishing are the black sheep for their wool absorbs more Sunlight of the Spirit and when they arrive at the marketplace (agora) one’s true value and purpose is found and realized in the knowledge of their unworthiness and that cup runneth-over-ness of gratitude for God’s Love and Grace we all share in a Christ Jesus, our souls’ true birthright. Merry Christmas, HT.
Great interview! Very helpful! Looking forward to more interviews on this great book.
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This was an excellent interview. Dr. Kozman thanks for your insightful questions that brought out the best in Dr. Ross. I loved this thanks so much for bringing to us such a great scholar.
Thanks for listening!
"Don't labor to try to make sense of the differences of the genealogies or harmonize them, it would be a mistake to think of them as infallible historical accounts..." is one of the most epistemologically naive comments from a believing scholar I've heard. Hays and Wright get off on rejecting inerrancy. It is foolish and arrogant. Once you put yourself as the standard of determining wrong and right in God's word, you've made the same error as Adam in the Garden, assuming your mind and rationality are absolute. A sanctified answer is to say, "I don't know," as opposed to assuming you are omniscient and know for a fact it is an error. Be wary of elites who wouldn't be able to defend the Christian faith from a fight with a paper bag. This is not honoring to God. Call me a fundamentalist all you want, but your epistemology just gave up any authority to proclaim the wrath of God. Maybe Paul was wrong about that? Make no mistake, infallibility will manifest somewhere. Either in your own judgement or you will differ to God's incomprehensibility and Absolute nature. To allow it to rest in your own reason is to presuppose that it is absolute. That is as pagan an instinct as it gets. These men are fooled into thinking they are just smarter than the rest of us who posit reasonable resolutions and then place the mysteries at the feet of God as opposed to in our own wisdom. That is a dangerous slope.
So fantastic. Ross is such a clear speaker and thinker. I wish he would write a short pauline theology where he navigates between various "new," "apocalyptic," and reformed perspectives (since it seems he's drawing from bits of each).
This was by far one of my favorite episodes ever, loved the interaction and Biblical theology that was brought out from this exegesis. Lots to think about! And yes, Aleph with Beth is an amazing resource, cannot blurb it enough.
How awesome loved it
Are more videos coming? Looking forward to them!
Great talk! I have sermonized someo of it.
Thank you for this thoughtful discussion, gentlemen. Question: have you considered that Elihu is completely wicked and evil?
You would have to tell me why you think that. Elihu is telling Job why he's falling apart Job is us The dystopic society.
@@THEJOB3323CHANNEL Sure. I have many reasons, but let me ask some questions, if I may. Elihu claims that Job is "adding rebellion to his sin". Aside from Job's possible rebellion, what "sin" is Job adding to this rebellion? We know from the beginning of the story that Job's suffering is not the result of a sin he committed. So what "sin" is Elihu referring to? Question: What "wisdom" does Elihu actually teach Job, as he claims he will do in Job 33:33? What does he teach Job that Job does not already know? There are more questions, but I will end with this one for now: why does Elihu wish for Job to be "tried unto the end" as he states in Job 34:36? If he is intending to help Job, as many presume, where is the grace? How is he actually being helpful to Job?
@christophermonroe5505 I appreciate your questions. Jon is contributing to his sin because he is listening to his friends who are all in error so its like us we are suffering because we are not living correctly. JOB is making it worse because his friends are lying to him and he's lieing to himself. Like humanity now we are living in a delusion of lies. Ask me anything I'm not always correct but your helping me validate my thoughts. This is a talk on Elihu it was done a year ago so some of my theories have changed th-cam.com/video/WnDU91YEzsU/w-d-xo.html
@@THEJOB3323CHANNEL thank you. My question is what "sin" is Job adding to? If he is sinning by listening to his friends and lying to himself - what "sin" are these things being added to then? What is the "sin" he is building on exactly?
@@christophermonroe5505I would suggest that this passage from Job 34:35-37 is not Elihu's opinion of Job but a summary of the 3 friends opinions or Job. Verse 34 says (NET) "Men of understanding say to me - any wise man listening to me says:...". This shows that verses 35-37 are the words of the wise men who are listening. Who are the wise men? Ch 34:2,10 makes it clear that they are Job's 3 friends (see also Ch 32:7,9,13), especially when we see Elihu is addressing Bildads argument in Ch 8:3 in Ch 34:12. Essentially, Elihu is then quoting/referencing what the 3 friends have said about Job and not making these claims about Job himself. Compare Ch 15:2,5-6, Ch 8:2-3 & Ch 11:2-3 for similarities to what Elihu says the "Wise Men" say. Therefore, it is not Elihu who thinks that Job has added rebellion to his sin, and that he should be tried to the end, but the 3 friends.
Well worth watching.
An hour well spent. Great questions, and great answers. A perfect introduction to the book of Matthew.