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I agree with the safety concerns but not with requiring riders to store belongings in lockers before they get in line. Velicoaster at Universal and Tron at Disney have lockers at the end of the queue, just before you enter the station. This way you can have your phone with you in line and then store it when it's time to ride. Nobody wants to wait an hour or more without their phone. They have attendants ensuring guests don't bring loose articles onto the ride with this system as well. And the lockers are double-sided so you exit on the opposite side and retrieve your belongings. All the advantages of lockers without forcing people to part with their phones.

Steel vengeance "SteVe" has lockers you can pay for across from the entry way of the queue. I support the use of upcharge lockers. We go for 12-13 hour days in just about every park we go to. The only thing on me is the unlimited drink wrist band, a locker wristband (depending on the park), and a credit card in a zipped or buttoned pocket. The person I normally go with, we are normally on our phone all day type of people, so going to the park and leaving them locked up for hours is kind of nice to be honest.

Folks. Fast pass doesn’t mean front of line. The line design doesn’t matter It is the number of people in line. Metal detectors take time. I had a metal belt buckle and got the wand. The wand is the issue. Just rode it 6 times last week. Do a take about maverick. That is the worst I have ever experienced plus it breaks every few hours and screws the people waiting

SFGAdv in 2016 had a system where employees would check pockets and if you didn't have at least one pocket that is zippered, you were sent to the lockers unless there was nothing in your pockets. There should at least be something like that because not having your phone is bad like what if a friend or family member gets sent to the hospital or an emergency comes up like if I'm out of town and there was an earthquake that damaged my town?

Until the early 2000s, Tig'rr ran with no restraints at all. Get in. Sit down. Hold on.

Great video. Thanks

do you know where you do NOT HEAR about lose articles? Island's of Adventure and Universal Studios!. Cedar Fair needs to adopt this 1- lockers need to be free and large enough to hold Fannie packs, cell phones and keys for riders. 2- this needs to be enforced by a ride attendant Once people know what to expect with no loose articles, they will abide and honestly, i didn't miss the articles while waiting. Furthermore, the one thing i have always been afraid of losing, my keys, i have never actually had happen but would be horrified to experience. It's all preventable and the park owes it to guests to make this easy and free to do.

Steel Force at Dorney Park has a unique bin system with shelves that coincide with which train you are riding. A shelf for the red train, one for the blue train, and one for the black train, and most of the time Steel Force is two train ops. Once the guests put their belongings on the shelf that coincides with their train, the ride attendants slides the door that is covering the train that is approaching the final brakes, to the train that is about to leave the station. As someone who worked at Six Flags New England last season as a ride operator while I was attending technical school in the area, I can tell you how many times people still lost their phones due to them being so dumb enough to take it out after the train has left the station, thinking that the operators and attendants wouldn't notice. I can stress enough of how the security team must have felt overwhelmed of getting reports from ops saying that guests were taking phones out mid ride or jumping the fences to retrieve lost items. One such case last year at that same park while I was attending as a guest, when I was about to get in line for Wicked Cyclone they had to shut the ride down due to someone jumping the fence to retrieve a season pass card, YES, A SEASON PASS CARD WHILE YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT ON YOUR PHONE, like, you had to shut the ride down just for a card for your season pass which you can have through your phone.

I appreciate you making a video like this! I’m visiting in July and I thought the lockers were at the front of the queue! Thanks for informing me about this so that my party can take all loose articles off before the ride so that we can all go straight to the detectors.

Great idea!! It seems that just having signs aren't enough. And not having to pay for a locker each time would [hopefully] deter those who feel inconvenienced from ignoring those rules. Those who are on the rides when these things happen have mental scars forever as well, and someone other than the parties witness to these horrific events need to be made aware of how dangerous this has gotten, and how bold and "safe" people think they are. One vid about this alleged that the man was warned not to go through, entered through an employee door, and was struck. If this is so, ALL DOORS ACCESSING THE RESTRICTED AREAS OF THE RIDE NEED TO BE LOCKED DURING OPERATION.(emphasized only.) Regardless, those employees have to deal with that for the rest of their lives as well. Its a loss for all involved.

Please help them

Why would they buy a deadly coaster!!! I think they need to fix this!!! Please tell them!!! File a complaint!!! Safetey

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Yukon Striker has the perfect solution, I hear. I was talking about a moveable bin, that corresponds with the trains. Its there right before you load to put your stuff in just before you board, then it rotates so no one can get to your stuff, and it allows for the next train. Then its on the exit side of the platform when you pull back in so you can grab your stuff. The person said "oh so just like Yukon Striker?" Its perfect. You carry everything up on the platform with you, and you dont ride with anything, knowing that no one will have access to it until your train comes back to the station.

Fanny pack. Peoblem solved.

They do need to change. Small hip/waist bags that attach to your belt and are fine in extreme motorsports on motorcycles and high speeds should be allowed on roller coasters so that we women don't have to remove our belts every ride and risk not being able to ride home if some foreigner steals our bag with our phone and keys in it.

The individual involved in this incident has passed away from his injuries.

ive got an upcoming trip to a local park planned and went to a store recently with my wife to hunt for a fanny pack. when i went to this park as a kid and even the local area zoo i remember we would always get these in the 80s as a safer way to hold our items. and now with the advent of having car keys and cell phones they seem even more important for a day out to an amusement park. and a fanny pack is cheaper and easier to wear than hunting for pants with zipper pockets in husky sizes. and i say this as im at the physical size where i may fit on a decent amount of rides but pants with zippers would be hard to find. personally i think the parks could make a killing selling themed fanny packs right at the front entrance. advertise them as "keep your items safe and have a wearable souvenier." if the park im going to has them i may buy one there as an extra. plus side if they make them water proof.

No they don’t the guy climbed 2 major fences everyone should not be punished just because of one person

I bring a hip pack and an average IQ to every amusement park I visit. I've never lost any items and I remain capitated.

They want everyone to use their phone for the fast passes though so you literally need to bring your phone to the front of the line. They need better storage options for riders.

Your idea is really good, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then again, people need to do what they're told, and put ALL thier crap in the damn locker! One thing I love about Universal in Orlando, is they have the quick que down pat. Doesnt take long, and all the lines are separated. They even have single rider line, which helps a ton. I mean, if you're going to pay for fast lane, it had better be fast! And to have different rules for all rides? Thats just stupid and insane for the guests, and the safety. All the rides need to have the same rules.

maybe if the lockers were free this would've never happened, i aint paying money everytime i wanna ride something

In line lockers aren't the issue. It's how the park manages to implement them. Whether dual lockers or pre- line lockers.. they should just be incorporated into the park ticket/ season pass.. it shouldn't feel like your paying for it every time

I always wear zippered pockets and never lost anything on a ride.

Universal has that policy on Hulk, Velocicoaster and Rip Ride Rocket. Stuff has to go in a locker and then you have to go thru a metal detector.

Wild cats revenge uses in line lockers they seem to work quite well, but I can see how the lockers before the line could be easier for parks.

The best policy for loose articles is have zipable pouches on the underside of the seat one u zipper it after u lowered the harnesses it is impossible to take them out again till the ride stops

Rode it opening weekend and made the mistake of riding in the last seat. Totally agree.....needs new restraints ... at the very least. Those transitions in the track are violently brutal to the head/neck area and you absolutely cannot brace for it. I'm glad you enjoyed the park. I love the place and visit regularly from 5 hours away. Been going there since they built the Hoosier Hurricane. Cornball Express IS the coaster gem of the park with it's airtime filled rump above and around the kiddieland area. The classic traditional amusement park atmosphere there can be mesmerizing in the evening. An inland boardwalk amusement park on a beautiful lake in the middle of cornfields in north central Indiana. Thank you Tom Spackman and now Gene Staples.

Been on these trains before. I didn't have a problem with them. But I agree if they could find the trains without those stupid shoulder restraints if would be awesome. B&M built trains for mindbender so they could probably produce them for AATL

If they replace the trains on AATL, it can be a hit. They need the lap bar only trains or at least some with maybe even comfort collars. Anything but this.

Works so good at carowinds. You can ride front row of fury 325 10 minutes apart from eachother

Another thing that is asinine at Cedar Point is the access pass. My wife loves the roller coasters and just last weekend we went and she wanted to ride Steel Vengeance. They write your boarding time down and add whatever the current wait time is after that so it was 2 hours. We proceeded to wait and tried to get her on two trains and the ride ops said let's get this block off for extra leg room to get her in .. The ride ops got the key stuck, called maintenance and the train was put out of service for the rest of the day, come to find out that they only have ONE copy of the key which I told the supervisor is just dumb because now she can't get her on ANY of the trains... So I told my wife, I love you and I'll help her on every ride except Steel Vengeance.... I just don't want to get involved in that malarkey mess again so that I don't say anything that will get me ejected from the park. I think that to make the loose article policy fair for everyone, no cellphones should be permitted at Cedar Point period! And the restrooms are so outdated it's not funny. Back in 2019 when Tony Clark hosted the celebration video for everything that was supposed to happen in 2020, I asked about renovations to restrooms and was made fun of. Everyone says oh that's just Tony, well I'm sorry but in my personal experience from meeting him he is not a very nice person.

The part you didn’t mention is how they try to scam a few extra dollars off you by scaring people into paying for a locker before entering the line. If I remember correctly there is no clear statement that free lockers are available in the line queue.

I respect the Lose article policy at these parks, matter fact they need to enforce this policy on every coaster well!!! the more extreme one's. I remember losing my car keys on superman ultimate flight and great adventure, all because I decided to place my car keys in my jacket button pocket and some how, they manage to fall out and I think they fell out during the bottom of the pretzel loop. The ride ops told us that we would have to wait for the park to close and someone will go back and check but, I used to be a ride op decades ago so I knew these new breeds of ride ops was not going to do no such thing. After waiting almost 2 hours in the ran for another friend to head back to the park and pick us up, I had to leave my car in the parking lot, go to the dealership the next day and get a new key fob which cost me $200, and ever since then, I purchase a locker and place EVERTHING in it. Lesson learned. I do like velocicoaster locker system, it's pretty efficient. Steel Vengeance whole queue system if horrible and I dreed it every time I get in line ugghhh. I skipped it last year because of the long wait time, downtime and f**** up queue locker system.

First off it takes one bonehead to ruin it for everyone which has already happened. 2. CP is liable period. If they weren’t then you would be able to take whatever you want on the ride. 3. CP knows that due to the intensity of the ride anything on a person is LIABLE to fly off! CP tells you this before even entering the line. Plan accordingly!?!?! 🤦🏻‍♂️ o and the metal detectors yea they do what they are supposed to do. Metal belt buckles yup. Piercings visible and none visible yup.

Coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY MAKE US PAY FOR LOCKERS THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING also coaster enthusiasts: HOW DARE THEY TRY FIX THE ISSUE I JUST COMPLAINED ABOUT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING the hypocrisy of coaster enthusiasts needs to be studied

Only real issue i have with SV line is the fast lane, you pay that much for the fast lane plus and still have to wait 45 min

Yes the queue design as a whole is horrible ...However if people followed the rules,obeyed the many signs stating no loose articles the line would move smoother....Seriously why do peoole ignore the signs and show up with phones,key,bags etc etc..Empty your pockets as instructed..it's not hard

Was there 3 weeks ago. Literally watched half empty trains running for 2 hours waiting in line, so frustrating

...is that music from the NES game Blaster Master? lol...

I left my wallet and phone in the car in preparation for this policy. And I secured my rental car key fob to a belt loop on my pants using a key ring. While the fob did set off the metal detector, the Cedar Point employee looked at how I secured it and let me go through. Overall, it was a bit of a nerve-wracking experience.

Even the fast lane line has the worst merge point on Steel Vengeance and Millennium Force. What makes it more worse is that Cedar Point is overselling too many fast lane wristbands and not severely limiting them to be sold out causing fast lines jammed to 30 mins or like a hour wait and its not worth it. I'm not going to Cedar Point until they find improvement for their fast lane. Cedar point must severely limit fast lane so their sold out, must build new stairs, paths to the stations so longer merging for Raptor, Millennium, Magnum, Rougarou or modifying the tunnel line with two lines for normal and fast line to the station on Steel Vengeance. If they make those improvements then people would be waiting lesser in the fast line and instantly walk on to the attractions with no more waiting even marathon a ride. I wouldn't be surprised if Cedar Point gets rid of the PLUS option just like Kings island, Carowinds, Kings Dominion and Dorney Park.

I've seen guests bug out the line employees/ride ops many times over fanny packs.

If they put the lockers in a better location for SV, it will be much further from the station and you will be without your phone for a longer time. The line works fine enough and FREE enough, the way it is other than metal detectors. Obviously, they can't use the same ones as the front gate unless those could be set to a much higher sensitivity since those allow keys, cellphones and wallets to get through. As far as TT2 goes, another object flying from the ride that nearly killed someone would be worse for the park than listening to people whining about paying for lockers. The only system I see working, easily, for TT2 would be a Yukon Striker system. The location of the track and the exit for TT2 limits, greatly, where free lockers could go and be easily accessible once the ride is over.

I think as long as you have zippered pockets, you should not have to get a locker. I've been getting on rollercoasters for many years now and never lost anything that was secured in a zippered pocket.

Personally I think there should be no other loose article policy then the typical loose article bins or a free locker just before getting on the ride, for I know loose articles are a huge danger, but a phone is not going to do any damage in a queue line, so why ban it there? Also what’s more simple then putting your stuff that isn’t secured in a bin? No metal detectors needed, no makeing up charge attractions by makeing people pay for a locker that stupidly is required, and no loose article problems, honestly why did parks ever switch away from those older, and way better loose article policy’s

Six flags great adventures only have no loose article police on eltoro kingda ka and the joker

Would you rather not have loose article policy and fet hurt from something falling out of someone's pocket

My first and only visit to CP was just before the strict loose articles policy - had no issues taking my phone in the queue. I did do a "roaming locker" for the day though to drop my goods off before getting in line - would it be more effective just to not deal with the SV-specific lockers and just use my normal locker? Still sounds absolutely terrible, bunch of humans in a cage (with the night time spiders)